[wwraymond]

Absolutely. When exchange wagering goes live in the US there will be many more

[wwraymond]

You have to be in the inner circle to make money. Like anything else, YOU have to have an edge.

[yahoonino]

You just need to have good information in Horses, not what you get in the program to even attempt to make money. PARX has about a 20 - 30% takeout tough to overcome, when they only return 75 cents on every dollar.

you are absolutily righ,,,you need inside info,,,,cause the horse never run , the way he look in the racing form

[no1here]

The edge is alot of hard work! Actually been handicapping ONE race & thinking if I should get envolved full time again like I was '69-'86 all morning. I think that it is alot better today then back then with everything being available right in front of me. Anyone can master the horses within 5 years simply by beginning at the beginning. Look at nothing but the two year old races for the first year. Then work with both 2 and 3 the next year and so on. Ther is no reason why one cannot win from the start. With two years olds you want the bet, form, and speed besides class.

handicap this morninghttp://www1.drf.com/formulator-web/FreeRace.do?trackId=BEL&country=USA&race Date=20120921&dayEvening=D&raceNumber=8# past-performance-race/8
Belmont 8th 4:34 eastern
1 and 1a are the horses to beat and my key, 3 and 6 are foreign shippers which always do good in races here in USA. They do not bring junk here. I like the 7 with new jock having blinkers firt time. Clearly looks like speed of race and must be caught. I am also putting the 2 on top having beaten the 7 last out easily. The two fits perfectly with a fine record and very fast.
tri keys 2/1/3-6-7, 2/3-6-7/1, 7/1/2-3-6, 7/2-3-6/1, 1/3-6, 1-6-3

[jjgold]

Some good info here

DRF has lots of products as does Equibase

[RawBillyIce]

Twinspires too

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Bump

[JoeyBagels]

Bill Benter
Alan Woods (RIP)
Zeljko Ranogajec
Patrick Veitch

My impression is that they all model and that for the average punter trying to glean an advantage with takeouts as high as 20% is a fools errand.

[Kev the Brit]

My system has bet on every UK race since Oct 13 2012 (4200 races). It has returned between 10 to 20% profit on average from every race. So, unless it is an unrepresentative snapshot, I guess it can be done. I'm currently building the bankroll whenever I can. Depending on the results between now and October (1 year trial), I might deposit a decent BR with a bookie in Nov and take out 5% every day. This could be wishful thinking, of course.....

[georgekos]

Can you tell me the EXCHANGES for Horses that a USA Resident can use??? I thank you VERY