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  • Thunder Gulch
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-30-10
    • 996

    #1
    Local bookie mistake in my favor
    What to do? I m guessing he didn't grade one right, or I was really drunk and called the wrong side of a bet, but either way his figure is off about 2x what I bet.
  • jjaycuny
    SBR MVP
    • 07-01-11
    • 1617

    #2
    I'm sure he'd appreciate the honesty, but how much $ in your favor are we talking?

    And if you placed a bet on the wrong side because u were drunk and won, that's fair game and its absolutely yours to keep. If you phoned in the wrong side and lost, he'd make you pay.
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    • Holtgetsback
      SBR MVP
      • 01-04-10
      • 4655

      #3
      ignore it, keep the money

      he already has a 10% edge

      happy holidays
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      • truebluebear
        SBR High Roller
        • 04-29-11
        • 174

        #4
        Yup if you make mistake whilst placing bet and bet loses then your £/$ are gone and rightly so , both parties are obligated to be on the ball when a wager is struck . Here in UK we can have vastly different prices for horses / Teams in events and obviously the practice is to "Shop" for best price available so if a bookie shows a nag at say 14/1 early odds whilst all his rivals are showing say 10/1 you take the better odds and consider it job done lol GL Bro with the extra $$$$'s have a few beers it wont happen often !!!
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        • sideloaded
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-21-10
          • 7561

          #5
          don't let all the illegal forum bookies tell you to give it back.
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          • davidchong
            SBR MVP
            • 02-10-06
            • 1806

            #6
            how much is?
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            • milwaukee mike
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-22-07
              • 26914

              #7
              does he record the phone conversations?

              two ways of looking at it
              1) good karma to be honest (appears from your post that the odds you told him the wrong side are quite small)
              2) part of his cost of doing business is losses on not taking bets properly, and if he can't do that and give you a proper readback then he deserves it
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              • ouman101
                SBR MVP
                • 12-02-09
                • 2815

                #8
                Keep the money! Merry Christmas to you!!
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                • bobby heenan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-20-09
                  • 4120

                  #9
                  My guy has messed up a few times over the last two years...in my favor...I say nothing

                  He has also messed up a few times which went against my figures...I've told him to go back through the week n recheck n grade things again...which he did and came back in my favor

                  His book/operation ... His responsibility ...if it were mine I would be so thorough
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                  • Thunder Gulch
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 08-30-10
                    • 996

                    #10
                    $840....thinking he graded a $400 wager wrong. Like I said, with Christmas parties and all, it's possible I called a total wrong or something like that.
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                    • Thunder Gulch
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-30-10
                      • 996

                      #11
                      I had Minnesota U tonight + 6.5 losing in double OT, so he just got his gift back.
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                      • hels
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-12-09
                        • 8767

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjaycuny
                        I'm sure he'd appreciate the honesty, but how much $ in your favor are we talking? And if you placed a bet on the wrong side because u were drunk and won, that's fair game and its absolutely yours to keep. If you phoned in the wrong side and lost, he'd make you pay.
                        Ya, we're all God loving Christians here.
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                        • DOMINATER
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 3698

                          #13
                          keep it no matter what records he has . IF HE FINDS THE MISTAKE JUST TELL HIM YOU HAD LOST TRACK AND TRUSTED HIM THE END
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                          • oiler
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-06-09
                            • 6585

                            #14
                            did u think maybe u made a mistake on who u bet ,just go with the flow and see what happens.either way its on him,not u
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                            • LVHerbie
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-15-05
                              • 6344

                              #15
                              Call and find out what he had you down for... If the mistake would have resulted in you losing instead of winning (if the game went the other way) no reason you should have to return the bet...
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                              • milwaukee mike
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-22-07
                                • 26914

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Thunder Gulch
                                I had Minnesota U tonight + 6.5 losing in double OT, so he just got his gift back.
                                if you lose the next couple bets in similar painful fashion, then it's karma

                                how did they only score 2 points in overtime by the way and only got off 4 shots in the 1st 4 minutes of 2ot? not as pathetic as nebraska's 14 points in the 2nd half but pretty close
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                                • Ez Money 77
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-23-11
                                  • 2585

                                  #17
                                  I have a funny bookie mistake story. When I was 17 years old I lived with just my dad and he was a sports bettor and had a bookie. I remember one day he was betting horses and when he called in to place a bet with his bookie that was racing @ hollywood park the bookie was like 30 minutes behind. I guess the start time for the race day was changed to an earlier time by like 30 minutes or something and the bookie didn't know. My dad didn't know until it was like the 6th race or something but he was all excited lol. He didn't do anything all crazy though because he didn't want it to look obvious. He lost a couple races and won a few more. I still remember that day because he came home and that was the first thing he had to tell me. The bookie never knew and it didn't happen ever again. Good times.
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                                  • konck
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-17-06
                                    • 12554

                                    #18
                                    Most big books record but maybe he didnt go over it ....maybe your small time and he doesnt give a crap
                                    He wouldnt give you back money if you over paid him ....keep it go buy champange for New Years
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                                    • Domestic
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-10-09
                                      • 6323

                                      #19
                                      Keep it, you know he would.
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                                      • Sledge187
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-25-08
                                        • 3722

                                        #20
                                        I would go to a strip club and make it "Sprinkle".
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                                        • MoneyLineDawg
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-01-09
                                          • 13253

                                          #21
                                          Just go with the flow.....I'm sure your bookie isn't hurting for that extra couple hundred.....If a bookie can't keep track correctly it is not your fault, consider it a gift
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                                          • truebluebear
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 04-29-11
                                            • 174

                                            #22
                                            Ha Gulch been reading through thread and it is obvious that pretty much everybody is of the same opinion bro , taking dough from a bookie is NEVER bad so dont concern yourself about the "Karma" argument bro , bookies (here at any rate ) entice the young , gullible and innocent to gamble by way of Media advertising so just think like you got some of his "Media " fund , never know bro that $800 might just be saving a sole haha . GL Guys !!!
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                                            • raydog
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-07-07
                                              • 6984

                                              #23
                                              human error happens...if you are comfortable being a low life thief, then so be it... i will never understand this mentality, but then again i dont have a need to steal either... the first thing a player does is cry foul when their is a mistake not in their favor and the very first thing the bookie does is correct it... you know he is much busier than you, especially during peak hours and mistakes happen while taking bets and grading them and the mentality of "fukk him if he cant keep track right" or "he charges juice so i deserve a break here and there" is such degen whoreshit its disgusting... just because you are a losing degen doesnt give you the right to cheat him whenever there is an error...the book doesnt owe you anything and i have no idea why gamblers will ever think that the book does...
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                                              • VegasInsider
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-12-10
                                                • 14593

                                                #24
                                                Dont say a word. It's his operation and his responsibility to put the proper payouts in the envelopes. Not your problem.
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                                                • thetrinity
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-25-11
                                                  • 22430

                                                  #25
                                                  how long have you been with him for? if he thinks ur a bit shaky he could be trying to trick you, ive done this a few times in the past myself. if its something like a 420 difference which would be a 220 loss turning into a 200 win, then its probably an honest mistake. my current guy uses a comp program so things like this dont happen ever.
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                                                  • bobby heenan
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-20-09
                                                    • 4120

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by raydog
                                                    human error happens...if you are comfortable being a low life thief, then so be it... i will never understand this mentality, but then again i dont have a need to steal either... the first thing a player does is cry foul when their is a mistake not in their favor and the very first thing the bookie does is correct it... you know he is much busier than you, especially during peak hours and mistakes happen while taking bets and grading them and the mentality of "fukk him if he cant keep track right" or "he charges juice so i deserve a break here and there" is such degen whoreshit its disgusting... just because you are a losing degen doesnt give you the right to cheat him whenever there is an error...the book doesnt owe you anything and i have no idea why gamblers will ever think that the book does...
                                                    Lol at the notion that anyone who would keep it must be a losing gambler n degen...yer so noble chief! His operation n responsibility...be thorough n don't mess up simple as that...I never feel like a book owes me shit
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                                                    • BigOrange
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-13-09
                                                      • 6745

                                                      #27
                                                      I used to do this on purpose a few times per year for my guys that always lost.

                                                      if their figure got a little high, I would credit them for a winner on a loser. This did two things: Let me know if they are honest enough to tell me about it and keep their figure reasonable enough to ensure that I got paid.

                                                      The ones that wouldn't tell me about it, wouldn't get much leeway from me if we had a real dispute on a bet and those that did tell me about it, i would let them keep "the winner" for their honesty.

                                                      It was a win-win for me.
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                                                      • raydog
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-07-07
                                                        • 6984

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by bobby heenan
                                                        Lol at the notion that anyone who would keep it must be a losing gambler n degen...yer so noble chief! His operation n responsibility...be thorough n don't mess up simple as that...I never feel like a book owes me shit
                                                        im not noble, chief...since the vast majority of gamblers are losers, its a very easy statement to make...something wrong with the generation of guys who dont mind stealing and letting people know they did it... like i said, human error happens and nobody should be punished for it...you would expect the mistake to be fixed if the figure was off and not in your favor, so why not be honest and point out the mistake...different breed of low life degens these days and everyone wants something for nothing...

                                                        with the state of offshore gambling now, everyone should do their best to not fukk over local outs that they might have...
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                                                        • jjaycuny
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-01-11
                                                          • 1617

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by hels
                                                          Ya, we're all God loving Christians here.
                                                          leave it to an SBR poster to make that stupid connection.
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                                                          • truebluebear
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 04-29-11
                                                            • 174

                                                            #30
                                                            And with impeccable timing we get the BETFAIR FIASCO in yesterdays big race over in Ireland - Millions wagered on a winning horse and a "Technical glitch " means that via "Terms & Conditions " they simply "VOID" the race and avoid paying out !!! personally I bet the winner but with Hills (TF) so didnt matter to me but know of plenty punters who had their normal £10-£50 bets on race voided when they believed they had won , Wonder if the BETFAIR guys worry bout Karma Thunder Gulch huh ?? - very good thread and yup Hels Im christian bud and I sleep perfectly soundly at night , especially if I get a turn at the geegees or fitba lol GL Men !!!!!!!!!!
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                                                            • Ez Money 77
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-23-11
                                                              • 2585

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjaycuny
                                                              leave it to an SBR poster to make that stupid connection.
                                                              I'm pretty sure here was being sarcastic bud.
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                                                              • DOMINATER
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 3698

                                                                #32
                                                                ray I correct m y guy several times a month and its always benefit bookie, and I must admit your right ,anytime it was a mistake he would not argue because I am honest. He is also related to me. Your right but is it the new generation or is it that the books often have the advantage ,and most guys are paying him on tuesday.So once and a great while the guys who get a few bucks from a mistake think its owed to them.Bottom line is stay honest karma sucks thanks ray
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                                                                • MoneyLineDawg
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-01-09
                                                                  • 13253

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by raydog
                                                                  human error happens...if you are comfortable being a low life thief, then so be it... i will never understand this mentality, but then again i dont have a need to steal either... the first thing a player does is cry foul when their is a mistake not in their favor and the very first thing the bookie does is correct it... you know he is much busier than you, especially during peak hours and mistakes happen while taking bets and grading them and the mentality of "fukk him if he cant keep track right" or "he charges juice so i deserve a break here and there" is such degen whoreshit its disgusting... just because you are a losing degen doesnt give you the right to cheat him whenever there is an error...the book doesnt owe you anything and i have no idea why gamblers will ever think that the book does...
                                                                  Get off your high horse pal.....we're talking about an illegal bookie.....he's not exactly taking food off some little kids plate by keeping quiet
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                                                                  • SteveRyan
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-15-11
                                                                    • 1654

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Question is....

                                                                    If he discovered that you overpaid HIM, would he be honest with you?
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                                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                                      • 12757

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Honesty is the best policy period !!!!!!
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