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  • Mikail
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-19-09
    • 21689

    #141
    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
    Obviously, it's much more sophisticated to whine about sports being "rigged" than to troll the individual that does. Another lesson learned.
    right. because I am whining about it.
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    • MonkeyF0cker
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-12-07
      • 12144

      #142
      Thread title: "Is anyone else getting fed up with rigged sports?"

      Nope. Guess not.
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      • Mikail
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-19-09
        • 21689

        #143
        ARE PROFESSIONAL SPORTS RIGGED?

        Would you leave a multi-billion dollar business up to chance?

        How much of your life have you spent watching televised sports, attending games, talking about sports, listening to sports radio, checking websites for updated scores, and then taking in SportsCenter or another highlight show at the end of the day? How much of your thoughts have been consumed with the upcoming game? How many nights have you stayed awake wondering how your team blew that huge lead? How often have you reminisced about that impossible comeback win as if you played in the game? How much money have you emptied out of your pocket on tickets, DirectTV packages, bets, jerseys, hats, trading cards, autographs and overpriced beers over the course of your lifetime?

        What if all of that time, emotion, and money has been wasted on a lie? What if the action on the field isn’t what it appears to be? What if you, and millions others like you, have been duped – outright lied to – by those franchises you hold so dear to your heart, all in the name of making an easy buck?

        Well, my friend, it has happened. And although your name might not be “Mark”, you have certainly become one to those running the carnival known as professional sports.

        When a win seems too good to be true – it is. When an impossible turn of events changes the course of a game – it is. When the story of an improbable underdog rises to the top like some sort of Hollywood screenplay – it is.

        The leagues, hand-in-hand with the TV networks which pour billions of dollars into professional sports, have fixed their own games to squeeze every ounce of drama they can out of each season and to ensure you remain committed to their sport and glued to your TV.

        shining the light into those dark corners and exposing professional sports leagues and their athletes for the money grubbing hypocrites they are. Some may call these sports conspiracy theories. I call them the truth.
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        • TodayIsForgotten
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 06-19-06
          • 534

          #144
          Originally posted by Mikail
          simple question after you called me 'moron' if my memory serves correct.
          Mikail. You are a moron. Originally you commented that Monkey was attacking you. But you said to him, "are you queer" and then followed up that with him being queer he has no merit and then when he "attacked" you, you said, i like how you resort to insults. Yet, you insulted him?

          Also, please use spell check and stop saying your for you're and so forth. It really shows that you are a jackass.

          You also mentioned that most sports are rigged but then said of course not all sports are rigged. Its very misleading.
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          • Mikail
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-19-09
            • 21689

            #145
            lol so pathetic. keep em coming.
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            • Mikail
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-19-09
              • 21689

              #146
              who remembers this game?

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              • Mikail
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-19-09
                • 21689

                #147
                I think the promoters of the Pacquiao – Marquez fight might’ve rigged that one.
                That shit was rigged.

                just finished watching pacquiao vs marquez 2. pacquiao lost like a muh fucka. big time. no wonder there is a 3rd fight. boxing is so rigged.
                Ahahahahah so the fight was rigged? Pacquiao clearly lost huh? Smh wheres everybody who tlkd abt “filipino pride” now? SMH
                The fight was rigged so that Pacquiao could fight Mayweather!! I don’t care what nobody say!
                boxing is rigged im so disappointed.. manny pacquiao lost every round… he doesnt stand a chance in the ring with floy mayweather
                If Pacquiao wins people are gonna say it was rigged…
                everyone wanna see a Pacquiao and Mayweather fight. so if Marquez didn’t knock him out than Pac Man was gonna win. this fight was rigged.


                t would the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight have same buildup, same intrigue if he lost tonight? $$
                Manny Pacquiao is REALLY close from needing to move from Earth, as boxing fans all over the globe will hate him. lol
                I love Pacquiao but idk if he really won that fight

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                • Mikail
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-19-09
                  • 21689

                  #148
                  looks like the cavalry is in retreat for now.
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                  • SportsMushroom
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-28-10
                    • 4177

                    #149
                    lets review the evidence that people have provided in this thread that sports are rigged shall we?

                    exhibit a)tim donaghy, as much proponents of the rigged games conspiracy theory love bringing this guy up, it does not help their case. tim donaghy proves exactly the opposite of what you are saying, it proves that only a handful of games are rigged (we cant have close games anymore every game that ends with a close score will always have someone that bet on the wrong side scream fix, when the game is close one team has to fuk up for the other to win, its not a fix get over it). It proves that when game are fixed people get caught. The donaghy case made rules and regulations stricter and tighter oversight and it is harder now to rig games with everyone watching.


                    exhibit b) the nhl game were the puck sharply changed direction while heading to the goal. people that use this as evidence of a fix obviously cheated natural selection and inexplicably managed to survive. What is a more logical explanation, that the puck changed direction due to ice shavings? or that someone changed the direction of the puck using a remote control device? that is not even physically possible, not unless the puck had wheels.

                    exhibit c) the yankees winning by one to kill underdog and runline bettors. do you realize that in every yankees game the yankees are a huge favorite? do you realize that in every yankees game the money is on the yankees runline and the underdog? do you realize that one run wins are statistically the most common result in baseball? do you realize that for any baseball team to win that someone has to drop a ball or make any sort of mistake? in fact in all sports for a team to win they must get a forced or unforced error from the other team

                    exhibit d) every other game were people scream fix, when games are fixed they cover comfortably, people coming in here screaming about the fix coming in on a dropped ball, a dropped pass, a last minute shot or a last minute call just sound ridiculous
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                    • AL1322
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-07-09
                      • 1944

                      #150
                      i dont like the sbr casino..i think thats rigged lol
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                      • MonkeyF0cker
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-12-07
                        • 12144

                        #151
                        George Bush orchestrated 9/11.
                        The New World Order controls everything.
                        The Bill Clinton Body Count is at 61.
                        Elvis is living in my basement.
                        I have aliens in my pants.

                        I think I'm forgetting something.
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                        • McBa1n
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-02-06
                          • 2642

                          #152
                          Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                          George Bush orchestrated 9/11.
                          The New World Order controls everything.
                          The Bill Clinton Body Count is at 61.
                          Elvis is living in my basement.
                          I have aliens in my pants.

                          I think I'm forgetting something.
                          And probably a Steve Bartman joke in there.
                          We all know MLB put him in the stands with Cubs gear to cost the Cubs a critical ball game.
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                          • SportsMushroom
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-28-10
                            • 4177

                            #153
                            Originally posted by Mikail
                            ARE PROFESSIONAL SPORTS RIGGED?

                            Would you leave a multi-billion dollar business up to chance?

                            How much of your life have you spent watching televised sports, attending games, talking about sports, listening to sports radio, checking websites for updated scores, and then taking in SportsCenter or another highlight show at the end of the day? How much of your thoughts have been consumed with the upcoming game? How many nights have you stayed awake wondering how your team blew that huge lead? How often have you reminisced about that impossible comeback win as if you played in the game? How much money have you emptied out of your pocket on tickets, DirectTV packages, bets, jerseys, hats, trading cards, autographs and overpriced beers over the course of your lifetime?

                            What if all of that time, emotion, and money has been wasted on a lie? What if the action on the field isn’t what it appears to be? What if you, and millions others like you, have been duped – outright lied to – by those franchises you hold so dear to your heart, all in the name of making an easy buck?

                            Well, my friend, it has happened. And although your name might not be “Mark”, you have certainly become one to those running the carnival known as professional sports.

                            When a win seems too good to be true – it is. When an impossible turn of events changes the course of a game – it is. When the story of an improbable underdog rises to the top like some sort of Hollywood screenplay – it is.

                            The leagues, hand-in-hand with the TV networks which pour billions of dollars into professional sports, have fixed their own games to squeeze every ounce of drama they can out of each season and to ensure you remain committed to their sport and glued to your TV.

                            shining the light into those dark corners and exposing professional sports leagues and their athletes for the money grubbing hypocrites they are. Some may call these sports conspiracy theories. I call them the truth.

                            Instead of getting your arguments from other people why dont you explain to us why you believe sports are rigged. You didnt even quote the source but this guy is just another conspiracy theorist.

                            This argument is not just full of holes, it is nothing but one big hole.

                            Sports are scripted? Is that why its the same teams that win year after year after year after year after year? So it benefits sports that yankees win it in baseball every year? Or does it benefit the nba that the lakers are in the finals every god damn year? Nobody cares about those sports anymore because its the same faking teams every year!! There is no drama for leagues and tv stations to take advantage of if you know from september who's gonna make the finals.


                            So team owners dont leave their billion dollar businesses to chance? really? There are more losing franchises than winning ones, you'd think all those billionaires who's franchises are faltering would want the script writers to write in a few championships for them too, so they can get a share of the $$$ pie!!! I guess they are ok with the fix being in every year for their opponents and that is why they are not speaking up.

                            if it were scripted you'd think the knicks would have won one by now, or that the winningest team in baseball wouldnt have more than double the pennants than the team in second place
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                            • warriorfan707
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-29-08
                              • 13698

                              #154
                              I think the NEVADA/ S MISS TOTAL may have been fixed to stay under.

                              The XAvier/Hawaii Game seemed odd.

                              Lakers/Bulls on Christmas (although more than likely that was just a Laker choke job. )

                              *Correction. Definitely a Laker choke job.
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                              • warriorfan707
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-29-08
                                • 13698

                                #155
                                Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                George Bush orchestrated 9/11.
                                The New World Order controls everything.
                                The Bill Clinton Body Count is at 61.
                                Elvis is living in my basement.
                                I have aliens in my pants.

                                I think I'm forgetting something.
                                You got the first one right...

                                Although Im pretty sure it was more Donald Rumsfeld that orchestrated it, Bush is too stupid to think of something like that, he merely approved it.
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                                • SportsMushroom
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-28-10
                                  • 4177

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by warriorfan707
                                  You got the first one right... Although Im pretty sure it was more Donald Rumsfeld that orchestrated it, Bush is too stupid to think of something like that, he merely approved it.
                                  its ridiculous to believe that bush had the power to approve anything
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                                  • ZigZags
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-24-11
                                    • 70

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by SportsMushroom

                                    its ridiculous to believe that bush had the power to approve anything
                                    Ignorance is bliss.
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                                    • warriorfan707
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-29-08
                                      • 13698

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by ZigZags
                                      Ignorance is bliss.
                                      It truly is.


                                      The more you know, the more fukked up life gets.
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                                      • Mikail
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-19-09
                                        • 21689

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by AL1322
                                        i dont like the sbr casino..i think thats rigged lol
                                        well yeah! this is known fact.
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                                        • sharlataans
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-13-10
                                          • 1927

                                          #160
                                          Alright, I know that there are quite many fixes in tennis. Probably one of the easiest sports to fix and not get caught.
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                                          • Mikail
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-19-09
                                            • 21689

                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by sharlataans
                                            Alright, I know that there are quite many fixes in tennis. Probably one of the easiest sports to fix and not get caught.
                                            ah yes! Tennis. This is why many books shy away from offering or limiting tennis in one form or another.
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                                            • Jonah
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-21-09
                                              • 4042

                                              #162
                                              Sometimes it does seem that the people whi jump down other people's throats over the issue of bringing this up definitely have another agenda, especially since it's here....

                                              Not a fan of hearing people always whine about this either(especially when they were way off) but how do yo not at least scratch your head when it seemed like Atlanta could not get a word in edgewise tonight....meaning every time they had a big play, refs said nope.
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                                              • ApricotSinner32
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                                                • 11-28-10
                                                • 10648

                                                #163
                                                Honestly this is one of the sharpest/best threads i've seen in pt in a while.
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                                                • ApricotSinner32
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                                                  • 11-28-10
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                                                  #164
                                                  Pacquiao was not handed that fight vs marquez to fight mayweather. He was handed the fight because he's a big draw and makes a lot of money for vegas/gives people jobs etc. He can fight anyone and sell out that arena because people love riding his dick even though he's one of the most overrated athletes ever.
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                                                  • GunShard
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                                                    • 03-05-10
                                                    • 10031

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by Mikail
                                                    Honestly, I'd have to write a books to cover all the fine points. For example... point shaving, miscalls, phantom calls and teams outright losing purposely. Here's something you should watch.....


                                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by8cuiaoCPI

                                                    That's interesting. Either luck or rigged.
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                                                    • Mikail
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-19-09
                                                      • 21689

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                                      Pacquiao was not handed that fight vs marquez to fight mayweather. He was handed the fight because he's a big draw and makes a lot of money for vegas/gives people jobs etc. He can fight anyone and sell out that arena because people love riding his dick even though he's one of the most overrated athletes ever.
                                                      Most definitely. People can argue the how and why but it does seem like most are in agreement Pac man didn't deserve the victory in his last bout. Looking at it from a business perspective it makes sense boxing would need to keep the supposed domination by Pacquiao floating so as to continue hyping the mayweather/Pacquiao fight we all want to see.
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                                                      • Mikail
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-19-09
                                                        • 21689

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                                        Honestly this is one of the sharpest/best threads i've seen in pt in a while.
                                                        I wanted to see what the consensus was among sbr about the subject. I get the feeling that mentioning it is taboo because whenever it's brought to attention by anyone the are immediately ostracized and made fun off. Made out to be sore losers and what not, when in fact sure I see it all the time. Someone loses and starts crying fix so I understand when someone calls fix it's to be taken with a grain of salt but that doesn't mean it's not happening. Most will agree that it's not logical to think every sporting event is being played out naturally.
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                                                        • MonkeyF0cker
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 06-12-07
                                                          • 12144

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by Jonah
                                                          Sometimes it does seem that the people whi jump down other people's throats over the issue of bringing this up definitely have another agenda, especially since it's here....

                                                          Not a fan of hearing people always whine about this either(especially when they were way off) but how do yo not at least scratch your head when it seemed like Atlanta could not get a word in edgewise tonight....meaning every time they had a big play, refs said nope.
                                                          LOL. Unreal.
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                                                          • ApricotSinner32
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                                                            • 11-28-10
                                                            • 10648

                                                            #169
                                                            Mikhail humans are easily brainwashed the consensus of who believes something does not determine it's validity.
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                                                            • MonkeyF0cker
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 06-12-07
                                                              • 12144

                                                              #170
                                                              Nobody is disputing that there aren't INSTANCES of point shaving and match fixing.

                                                              However, if you think it's pervasive in American sports, you're an idiot. And if you think it and continue to bet it, you're retarded.

                                                              Referees and players alike are human and make mistakes especially in high pressure situations. The job of a referee involves quite a bit of subjectivity as well as not always being able to be alert to everything that's going on in the field of play. Could it be that as a gambler, you're just a little biased yourself?

                                                              It's time to take the tin foil hats off, boys.
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                                                              • ApricotSinner32
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                                                                • 11-28-10
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                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                                Nobody is disputing that there aren't INSTANCES of point shaving and match fixing.

                                                                However, if you think it's pervasive in American sports, you're an idiot. And if you think it and continue to bet it, you're retarded.

                                                                Referees and players alike are human and make mistakes especially in high pressure situations. The job of a referee involves quite a bit of subjectivity as well as not always being able to be alert to everything that's going on in the field of play. Could it be that as a gambler, you're just a little biased yourself?

                                                                It's time to take the tin foil hats off, boys.
                                                                Not if you believe you can benefit from the corruption.
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                                                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-12-07
                                                                  • 12144

                                                                  #172
                                                                  LOL. Again. How have you fared?
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                                                                  • ApricotSinner32
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                                                                    • 11-28-10
                                                                    • 10648

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Would be up 60 units since april betting 1% flat if I had money discipline.
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                                                                    • ApricotSinner32
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 11-28-10
                                                                      • 10648

                                                                      #174
                                                                      You let my reputation and my past posting history determine that there's no chance patty has a profitable way to handicap.
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                                                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 06-12-07
                                                                        • 12144

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Spreadsheets mean nothing, Patty. As they say here, "Show me the ticket."

                                                                        And you're getting "fix" information on EPL, KHL, UEFA, AUS Socccer, NFL, NCAAF, and NCAAB?

                                                                        LOL. C'mon, Patty.
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