ChiSox +168 over Verlander and the Tigs

[ApricotSinner32]

I'm with you I have Whitesox +177

[brahmabull117]

. And when he does there will be the few guys that faded him that week saying "I told you so."

and all it took was 8 losing tries to do it

[mattmc419]

I just don't understand how you guys are defining value on this one.

Even at +200, you'd have to win it 1/3 times just to break even. At 22-5, Verlander hasn't lost at near that ratio, and the line isn't +200.

[BettingWizard]

I just don't understand how you guys are defining value on this one.

Even at +200, you'd have to win it 1/3 times just to break even. At 22-5, Verlander hasn't lost at near that ratio, and the line isn't +200.

can't use that logic to make lines.......if a guy is 1-10, are you gonna make a +900 line? Of course not.

[mattmc419]

can't use that logic to make lines.......if a guy is 1-10, are you gonna make a +900 line? Of course not.

Yeah that's true. But we're not making the lines, we're betting them lol

I guess I don't understand how people see value in lines then. Here, at -180, I personally see value in Detroit.

[moses millsap]

early double play is going to take all the energy out of the sox, tigers roll again

[paco]

tigers are the hottest team in baseball


still dont understand how many continue to bet against the best pitcher in baseball, including the hottest lineup at the moment. No value there. Verlander is going for win 23 and already has the Cy YOung locked up.

[brahmabull117]

can't use that logic to make lines.......if a guy is 1-10, are you gonna make a +900 line? Of course not.

Verlander is 4-1 against the sox his last 5 starts
Verlander is 22-5 on the season
The Tigers are 9-3 their last 12 games at Chicago
The Tigers have won 6 of 8 against the Sox Overall
The Tigers have been one of the best teams in the league since the all star break



please I want to know how the sox have better than a 1 out of 3 chance of winning this game. Personally I don't even think they have a 1 in 4 chance of winning this with how hot the tiger bats are

[brahmabull117]

tigers are the hottest team in baseball


still dont understand how many continue to bet against the best pitcher in baseball. Verlander is going for win 23 and already has the Cy YOung locked up.

all the money is on the tigers to win, that must mean the white sox are a lock

[BettingWizard]

Verlander is 4-1 against the sox his last 5 starts
Verlander is 22-5 on the season
The Tigers are 9-3 their last 12 games at Chicago
The Tigers have won 6 of 8 against the Sox Overall
The Tigers have been one of the best teams in the league since the all star break



please I want to know how the sox have better than a 1 out of 3 chance of winning this game. Personally I don't even think they have a 1 in 4 chance of winning this with how hot the tiger bats are

worthless stats, otherwise vegas would put up -600 lines and higher. Who is smarter,you or Vegas? Thanks.

[wikkidinsane]

gl with this i tookt he runline at even odds +1.5


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[paco]

Also, Tigers are going for 11 in a row, not 9

[killawookie]

I think that ChiSox will not try to salvage this game and just let their starter get raped so their bullpen can get a fresh start in their next series

[harlee71]

This is a big inning for Floyd. Middle of the line up and Verlander pitch count is getting up there. If Sox can hold on, and stay close Verlander wont make it to the 7th.

[brahmabull117]

worthless stats, otherwise vegas would put up -600 lines and higher. Who is smarter,you or Vegas? Thanks.

oh brother


we'll see what stats are worthless when the tigers are up like 6-0

[harlee71]

I know everyone was Verlander this and Verlander that. If people havent noticed the Tigers are starting to pull in his innings and not leaving him as long in the game. They have to start saving his innings for the post season. I was betting on Cy Young to leave the game after 5 maybe 6. Then the Sox have their chance. Tigers are awesome at the plate, no denying, but the sox can hit if they get past Verlander and into the pen. That was my reasoning on the bet. I still like the chances.

[paco]

This is a big inning for Floyd. Middle of the line up and Verlander pitch count is getting up there. If Sox can hold on, and stay close Verlander wont make it to the 7th.

Verlander has many games where he pitched up to 120+. I doubt thu would stress him odah though since we have like a million game lead in the division

[brahmabull117]

I know everyone was Verlander this and Verlander that. If people havent noticed the Tigers are starting to pull in his innings and not leaving him as long in the game. They have to start saving his innings for the post season. I was betting on Cy Young to leave the game after 5 maybe 6. Then the Sox have their chance. Tigers are awesome at the plate, no denying, but the sox can hit if they get past Verlander and into the pen. That was my reasoning on the bet. I still like the chances.

please read this article if you think the tigers are gonna take their foot off the throttle

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2011/09/13/sports/doc4e6e9d61e55d2605231499.txt

[paco]

Fair enough harlee, GL

[harlee71]

please read this article if you think the tigers are gonna take their foot off the throttle


http://www.theoaklandpress.com/artic...2605231499.txt

Thanks Paco.

I have my reasoning on my plays. I try to pick my spots on big dogs like this. I know the line should have been closer to -200 in this game. The oddsmen also know Tigers will pull Verlander early in this game because there is no reason to leave him past 6. If the game is tied or 1 run down when Verlander goes, the line instadrops from +170ish to +120 to almost EVEN depending on the score.

[brahmabull117]

Thanks Paco. I have my reasoning on my plays. I try to pick my spots on big dogs like this. I know the line should have been closer to -200 in this game. The oddsmen also know Tigers will pull Verlander early in this game because there is no reason to leave him past 6. If the game is tied or 1 run down when Verlander goes, the line instadrops from +170ish to +120 to almost EVEN depending on the score.

I just don't understand why anybody would bet against the hottest team in the league with the best pitcher in the league facing a team they have dominated recently



if you want to bet on an underdog, why not bet against the yankees tonight who have been playing very average ball with that scrub burnett starting??

[harlee71]

I almost bet against the Phil's tonight.

[harlee71]

What can you do???

3 out of 4 innings the ChiSox have had 2 or more men on base and have not scored.

Still hanging tough, but there might be a bit of a drop in play after bases loaded and no runs against Verlander.

Come on Sox, don't give up any runs this inning!

[sjm5122]

Hope the sox can pull this out, but Beckham sure has sucked for them so far.

[moses millsap]

10 pitch inning, verlander should be able to go 7 or 8

[harlee71]

Good game guys. That should do it here.

Maybe next time.

[zeusky]

Game, set and match. Detroit does it again.

[brahmabull117]

vmart woot woot

[moses millsap]

game over, tigers are just too good right now, same with arizona

[lakerboy]

What can you do???

3 out of 4 innings the ChiSox have had 2 or more men on base and have not scored.

Still hanging tough, but there might be a bit of a drop in play after bases loaded and no runs against Verlander.

Come on Sox, don't give up any runs this inning!

Verlander is tough.

[harlee71]

Tigers are good. Never a question.

[No coincidences]

Ozzie intentionally walks Cabrera, knowing full well what V-Mart does in that exact situation.

This dysfunctional team gets what it deserves. Shitty GM, shitty manager and players with no heart.

[paco]

Teams are finally realizing they cant pitch around Cabrera anymore with Vmart right behind him. This team is stacked. Just have to get rid of Magglio.

Get em next time Harlee.

[harlee71]

Teams are finally realizing they cant pitch around Cabrera anymore with Vmart right behind him. This team is stacked. Just have to get rid of Magglio.

Get em next time Harlee.

[lakerboy]

paco you think the tigers can win the al pennant? i think they have the best playoff manager.