Does any player affect a point spread more than Manning?

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  • UntilTheNDofTimE
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    • 05-29-08
    • 9285

    #1
    Does any player affect a point spread more than Manning?
    In any sport. I dont follow lines too much in the past 2 years but i noticed this line has moved from Indy -1 to Indy +7.5 which the Manning doubtful status. Ive never seen a line move so much on 1 player. When lebron wouldnt play on Cleveland the line may move 4 points.

    Has there ever been a bigger line movement than this in terms of 1 player not playing. And please dont mention a pitcher because thats obvious how a stud vs dud can change the line drastically.
  • iifold
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-25-10
    • 11111

    #2
    He so good and controls so much he allowed them to hire a black coach as a pawn to fill the quota...

    I'd say he is pretty important...
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    • UntilTheNDofTimE
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      • 05-29-08
      • 9285

      #3
      Originally posted by iifold
      He so good and controls so much he allowed them to hire a black coach as a pawn to fill the quota... I'd say he is pretty important...
      well of course hes important im not saying hes dosent control everything on offense and hes not fucknig incredible. The pheonix suns in like 05/06 or whatever year they played San antonio in the conference finals were like 4-10 without nash that year. But even him not playing a game would only move the spread about 4 points.
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      • HoulihansTX
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        • 02-12-09
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        #4
        Lebron James, when he played for the Cavs
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        • k13
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          • 07-16-10
          • 18104

          #5
          It's more to do with the horrible back ups they always have.

          Plus overreaction.
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          • wantitall4moi
            SBR MVP
            • 04-17-10
            • 3063

            #6
            no one is worth 7 points, not even manning. But the books move it because they know every loser out there will bet against the colts if he doesnt play, they just have to hope they get enough 50 dollar bettors to outweigh the smart guys who are betting the other side. although throwing up that hook might slow some of them down a little.
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            • d2bets
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              • 08-10-05
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              #7
              It's warranted. I mean, I look at Indy, and without Manning, just don't think they're a very good team. He's the difference between them as a 6 or 7 win team vs. a 10 or 11 win team. In other words, from marginally bad to pretty good.
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              • jjgold
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                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Maybe Brady

                Indy was going nowhere even with Manning
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                • Brock Landers
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                  • 06-30-08
                  • 45359

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Maybe Brady Indy was going nowhere even with Manning
                  New england did just fine when they lost brady, i think Indy set itself up to die hard when they didn't prep a decent backup
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                  • Naz18
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-10-09
                    • 4277

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                    New england did just fine when they lost brady, i think Indy set itself up to die hard when they didn't prep a decent backup
                    Were talking about point spreads, before Brady got injured he was putting up ridiculous numbers (50 TD passes in one season) where the team was favorite by 17 or plus points on some games.
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                    • Jive
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                      • 02-10-10
                      • 1405

                      #11
                      I can understand this drastic swing. Manning isn't just the QB, he is the de facto offensive coordinator. Him not being on the field is HUGE (just look at what happens when he only plays one series in those late season games). And now they are going to have a QB in there who has only had the playbook for 2 weeks.

                      I'm staying away from this game for real money (if I had to make a pick for a contest or something I'd take the Colts @7.5), but the wild point spread swing doesn't surprise me.
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                      • obamaismyuncle
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                        • 12-31-08
                        • 17801

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                        New england did just fine when they lost brady, i think Indy set itself up to die hard when they didn't prep a decent backup
                        Garard to Indy? Staying int he same division
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                        • D3 Mighty Ducks
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                          • 12-17-09
                          • 11939

                          #13
                          Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
                          Garard to Indy? Staying int he same division
                          Not going to happen.
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                          • Stallion
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                            • 03-21-10
                            • 3617

                            #14
                            Tom Brady is a 10 point difference in the point spread.
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                            • robmpink
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                              • 01-09-07
                              • 13205

                              #15
                              Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                              In any sport. I dont follow lines too much in the past 2 years but i noticed this line has moved from Indy -1 to Indy +7.5 which the Manning doubtful status. Ive never seen a line move so much on 1 player. When lebron wouldnt play on Cleveland the line may move 4 points.

                              Has there ever been a bigger line movement than this in terms of 1 player not playing. And please dont mention a pitcher because thats obvious how a stud vs dud can change the line drastically.
                              So I guess you listened to ESPN radio about 3 hours prior to your thread.
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                              • ThaTopMoron
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                                • 04-30-10
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                                #16
                                The Texans will destroy the Colts. I am going to go all-in on the Texans week 1. Also need to sell my tickets to week 3 vs Steelers to some die-hard Steelers fans... do not care to watch Paint dry or Kerry Collins suck ass.
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                                • BettingWizard
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                                  • 11-28-09
                                  • 6522

                                  #17
                                  Indy has always had the worst backups in the league, that is half the reason
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                                  • iwantcougars
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-29-09
                                    • 2156

                                    #18
                                    it's manning offense he call the plays, make the adjusments. if they're down 10 with manning, the players are calm because they know what manning can do, but with their backups, their D will be lucky to be off the field getting tourched 1/4 of the game
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                                    • kilmerAsHolliday
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                                      • 11-17-09
                                      • 45

                                      #19
                                      Anyone who thinks Brady is even close to as valuable as Manning is delusional.
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                                      • iifold
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                                        • 04-25-10
                                        • 11111

                                        #20
                                        Anybody still think Caldwell belongs in this league...
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                                        • ThaTopMoron
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                                          • 04-30-10
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                                          The Texans will destroy the Colts. I am going to go all-in on the Texans week 1. Also need to sell my tickets to week 3 vs Steelers to some die-hard Steelers fans... do not care to watch Paint dry or Kerry Collins suck ass.
                                          I told you stupid fukkks... Manning is the league MVP
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                                          • kilmerAsHolliday
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                                            • 11-17-09
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by iifold
                                            Anybody still think Caldwell belongs in this league...
                                            Peyton has been the Colts head coach for about 8yrs now.
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                                            • drfunkmaster
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-29-08
                                              • 11162

                                              #23
                                              Indy sucks...
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