If kershaw doesnt win NL cy young..

[forloveofthegame]

I will happily never bet a baseball game again matter of fact ill leave sbr and give up gambling! Absolutely dominating on a shit team with no run support. I would take him over Verlander any day. yeah the no-no's but kershaw is way more impressive with what hes working with, younger and better repertoire . This guy goes to the mound and the game is over, done, in the fride, so on... Hope he doesnt get jewed out of a well deserved and first of many cy youngs cause of the shit players they call a team in LA.

[bobby heenan]

young koufax....hopefully hes gets dealt to the red sox soon!

[King Mayan]

If it wasn't for kemp and kershaw, these dodgers would be the worst team in history.

[face]

verlander already won 20 games i think he could get it too

[lemart5]

-2.5 bet everytime he is on

[crustyme]

it's a 2 man race...... kershaw vs. kennedy.

if kennedy wins more games i think he steals it.

[mikeanite]

win cy this yr and shit the next. we'll see.

[LotsoCheese]

Verlander will get it. 20 wins..... Kershaw is a beast, but I don't see him getting it.

[BobHarvey]

Kershaw has got to be the leader for the Cy Young Award.

Even if he doesn't throw another pitch this season he should get it. I mean 17-5, 2.45 ERA, 212 strikeouts all while pitching for a last-place team....if he doesn't get it...they should quit handing it out.

P.S. Matt Kemp for MVP wouldn't be a reach either.

[BobHarvey]

Verlander will get it. 20 wins..... Kershaw is a beast, but I don't see him getting it.

Thank goodness they have one award for each league...otherwise Verlander vs. Kershaw would be a real tough call although J. Verlander is on a soon to be playoff team.

[crustyme]

Verlander will get it. 20 wins..... Kershaw is a beast, but I don't see him getting it.

they give out 2 cy young awards... 1 for al, another for nl.

[InTheDrink]

if kennedy wins more games i think he steals it.

lets see kennedy get his era under 3 first big guy

[hardball]

Kids got some viscous stuff. Kershaw Vs Halladay.

I'm a huge Kershaw fan but.....

[InTheDrink]

the nl west is a fukkin joke in every way

[crustyme]

lets see kennedy get his era under 3 first big guy

he's at 3.03 so he'll do it if he gives up 2 runs over 8 innings in his next start. which is very possible since he's facing the giants: 0.75 era this season vs. them.

but if he finishes 22-5 vs kershaw's 21-7, then you have to give it to him since the d-backs would be nowhere without him.

[blackbox]

Another outstanding effort tonight-cannot remember the last time he lost a home game.

[laclippers504]

Id give Kershaw cy young but wouldn't give Kemp MVP....can't give him MVP when the team sucks with or without him.

[kisado]

ATM, Kershaw is definitely the CY. Kennedy has the wins but his ERA is large in comparison. Also, Kershaw is the King of the K. He's clearly been the more dominant of the two. Easy choice right now IMO but there's still a chunk of games left.

[rm18]

Kennedy pitches in a way tougher park and a horrible defense when Bloomquist is out there, Kershaw is better but Kennedy should win because he is on a playoff team.

[gryfyn1]

but if he finishes 22-5 vs kershaw's 21-7, then you have to give it to him since the d-backs would be nowhere without him.

Really? You're quoting wins as a marker for how a pitcher did?? That's just stupid. Kennedy isn't on the same world as the top 4.



But Kershaw is having a great season and between him and the trio in Philly, it could be any of them based on how Sept goes.

[meckis]

Kershaw for NL and Verlander for AL. It is big shame that Kershaw plays in so bad team.

[jjgold]

Tough call

Both deserving, we still have time to see

[crustyme]

Really? You're quoting wins as a marker for how a pitcher did?? That's just stupid. Kennedy isn't on the same world as the top 4.



But Kershaw is having a great season and between him and the trio in Philly, it could be any of them based on how Sept goes.

of course wins matter. because everytime kennedy goes to the mound, it's a must win situation. d-backs don't have 4 aces on their staff like the phils do. if halladay gets smacked around, there's lee, oswalt and hamels to pick him up. if kennedy has a poor outing, d-backs season is over.

and kennedy has responded to the pressure by going 17-4, the best record in the league. he's also top 10 in most categories such as whip, strikeouts, walk, innings pitched and 11th in era.

kershaw has had a great season but the dodgers have been out of the race since may so he hasn't had to pitch under pressure. but that shouldn't matter since lincecum and greinke have won previously with terrible teams.

but this is a 2 man race between kershaw and kennedy. none of the phils pitchers have the wins or the records to beat these two.

and if kennedy has more wins than kershaw, he should win because all of his starts have been must wins.

[InTheDrink]

crusty you keep talking about wins...how many did Felix have last year?

Thanks for playing.

Wins are borderline irrelevant.

[MartinBlank]

Kershaw is a beast, no doubt.

But I think when the dust settles it is going to end up in Roy Halladay's hands again.

Baseball writers are geographical. Just watch. The west coast guys are going Kershaw, but the predominantly east coast writers will go Halladay just because they see him more.

Kershaw has small leads over Halladay in just about every category---

Kershaw 17 wins
Halladay 15 wins

Kershaw 2.45 ERA
Halladay 2.56 ERA

Kershaw 212 K's
Halladay 192 K's

Halldady does have more CGs, 7-5.

I would like to see Kershaw break through and get it, but I think Halladay gets it again.

[crustyme]

crusty you keep talking about wins...how many did Felix have last year?

Thanks for playing.

Wins are borderline irrelevant.

wow, 1 year sample. can't beat that.



since 2000, 12 of the 19 (63%) cy young winners had the most wins or the best record. the others usually had the lowest era. not counting 2003 when dodgers closer gagne won it with 55 saves.

so the two most important criteria baseball writers look at are wins and era.

[JMobile]

You guys are crazy, JJ Happ will win it this year for the NL.
Put your house on it!

[INVEGA MAN]

He's having a he'll of a year but their owner and team r garbage

[crustyme]

and kennedy has been getting some push for the cy young from nationally known writers recently:

Ian Kennedy has a shot at Cy Young

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/20/sports/la-sp-0821-down-the-line-20110821

Is Ian Kennedy A Viable Cy Young Candidate?

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/8/29/2391110/ian-kennedy-diamondbacks-cy-young

[forloveofthegame]

Ian kennedy isn't even in the same echelon as kershaw doc and hamels. I'm worriedone of the phillies wl get it. I love when people bring up wins when talking about pitchers.it shows there lack of knowledge.

[HoulihansTX]

You guys are crazy, JJ Happ will win it this year for the NL.
Put your house on it!

Lackey for the "Reverse Cy Young". Whatever that is.

[Carseller4]

I will happily never bet a baseball game again matter of fact ill leave sbr and give up gambling! Absolutely dominating on a shit team with no run support. I would take him over Verlander any day.

Kershaw is not competing against Verlander.

Maybe you should just give up baseball regardless for not knowing this.

[crustyme]

Ian kennedy isn't even in the same echelon as kershaw doc and hamels. I'm worriedone of the phillies wl get it. I love when people bring up wins when talking about pitchers.it shows there lack of knowledge.

obviously you're clueless.

espn cy young predictor has kennedy ranked #3 behind kershaw and halladay. he has a far greater shot at winning than hamels.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/features/cyyoung

if voting were held today, kershaw would most likely win. but what if kennedy goes 5-0 the rest of the way and ends up 22-4 2.85 era while kershaw falters and ends up 20-7 2.70 era? and phils could clinch home field early and start resting their starters which would basically take them out of the running. gotta favor kennedy then.

i think the only guarantee here is that even if kershaw doesn't win, you won't stop gambling or posting on sbr. because people like you never keep your word.

[InTheDrink]

his remaining starts are all against the nl west except for maybe one against the pirates

hopefully colorado rocks him to put this silliness to bed

everyone else's offense fukkin blows....i could have an era under 4 in the nl west

[crustyme]

his remaining starts are all against the nl west except for maybe one against the pirates

hopefully colorado rocks him to put this silliness to bed

everyone else's offense fukkin blows....i could have an era under 4 in the nl west

kennedy.....

vs. reds 2-0 1.35 era
vs. brewers 1-0 0.00 era
vs. mets 1-0 1.29 era
vs. phils 1-1 2.25 era
vs. nats 1-0 0.64 era

vs. rockies 1-0 2.70 era