Bodog 2012

[shari91]

Geez, Shari. How clueless can you be? Can you really believe this??

And he's arrived

Do you know who MMGG is? Do you know about the gaming licence they have to have in order to operate? You do realise that this isn't some shonky little fly by night company? Five years ago instead of calling their book MMGG, they went to Bodog and said "hey, since you left the US market now would you licence us your name?" The name is changing. That's it. The same company you've been bitching about for months will still be there in January: MMGG.

[Boscoe]

so, it'll be the same odds, types of props, and same website layout with just a different logo and domain? hope so.

[donkdown]

Yes but Subway is still responsible to some extent minor or major for the actions of the franchise, as was bodog here. now this becomes a mckey mouse outfit with no one backing it with the funds or recognition of Bodog.

Maybe AP or UB will back this book and run the Poker room!!

[robotralph]

So its just a name change right?

[vividjohn45]

Maybe AP or UB will back this book and run the Poker room!!

wad up doomsayer. i thought u had the inside skinny bodog was next on us attorney list and we shuld withdrawal imediately


your recommendation. jackass

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and like i've said a thousand times before. this site is sponsored by offshore books. but you always tell peoples to withdrawal immediately.


which ok. I"LL GIVE YOU THAT. but you continue to play in sbr casino and poker rooms while telling peoples to pull their cash out.

nasty hypocrite. and here you are a public figure with a websitte /radio show.

like i wuld ever spend one second of my life listening to our nasty philosophy. GO ON burn a few more offshore chips in

the book since you hasten its end with ur verbiage.

[TheGuesser]

Maybe they can call the "new" book The Big Book? Or Grand Prix?

[neverstoppers23]

I am really confused on this news.

[vividjohn45]

hey bill ur cool and everything. but you proly should not use messi. figurativley in this situation.



here is the godlike Messi.











and here is the new look bodog.

http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~2382152,00.html

[ZetaPsi808]

what will happen to all of our funds? i would like a free payout

[gafl]

With the recent closure to the US of BetJam and the Greek, not a great time to be sending out news stories about a name change, no matter if its business as usual or not.

[Bill Dozer]

So Bodog will not be closed to US players in the future?

The book will be the same. It will be similar to when some players ended up at Bodog.ca or .eu except it will be the domain. Expect domainXYZ.eu. Like betCRIS.com to Bookmaker.com.

Since when does Messi play for West Bromwich?

I had a bet with Lou that someone was going to make a doosh comment about that. I was saying that Bodog can't do xyz easily when their .com brand is... ah nevermind.

Who owns the rights to the poker software?

Bodog does now. Who knows what company will own it and who will lease it from who but it will be the same poker room for the players.

I guess I don't understand. Surely if they want to be a global brand, and to be well-respected by licensing authorities (UK, First Cagayan), they'll be pressure on them to close their US-facing arm? Why would changing the name ease that pressure?

It's more of a brand issue. The same companies don't technically own the different Bodogs as it is. Another example would be Sportsbook.com and say, Sports.com. Each domain is owned by someone else yet there is a lease agreement and its all the same platform.

Bodog is always on the tipping point of failure

Yep, failing for 14 years now.

When Dozer's talking about a big move for Bodog, doesn't that just mean the Bodog UK franchise? Or is the UK one still owned by the original owners of the brand?

The Brand is one entity that is licensed out. The new brand in the US will technically be owned by MMG who holds the Bodog.eu site already.

so, it'll be the same odds, types of props, and same website layout with just a different logo and domain? hope so.

Yes, well, if there are changes at Bodog like there can be at any book, it wont be related to the url they are using.

Maybe they can call the "new" book The Big Book? Or Grand Prix?

I asked about TheBigBook too! Dust that baby off.

[LostBankroll]

Dont worry about a thing business as usual.

[soxwin1917]

I'm amazed by all the simple minded people in this thread. Shari summed up what's going on simply and clearly. If you have trouble understanding it, maybe gambling isn't for you?

[doublej95]

whatever happens with the Bodog or the new Bodog it would be nice to see them get lines up earlier in all events.

[TheGambler]

They are only changing their name , what`s the big deal ???

I'm with you on this Mr. Leisure. I've learned to ignore all of the minor stuff with offshore and just try to be smart with my funds by pulling them out when i reach a certain limit. I would never keep it all offshore but i still feel like it's pretty safe

[noyb]

will the new usa bodog, that won't be called bodog anymore, actually start taking euro-players or will all euro-players still be restricted to that retarded bodog.uk-website.

[Br0nxer]

bodog got out of the us in '06. When they did, mohawk approached them about licensing their name to use for their sportsbook and that's what's been going on since then. Basically bodog's a known name and mohawk paid for the privilege of using it but when the deal expires at the end of the year, bodog's not going to renew. It's almost like when subway franchisees pay subway to use the name. The franchisee still owns the shop and operates it, but they get the name brand recognition and loyalty of subway customers.

[Kurkapan]

Run run run. They have always represented GARBAGE, now they wont even have their brand name...charging for deposits my ass...

[Art Vandelay]

Lines are up late but if you like to play dogs, they have the best lines IMO - always get an extra half-point or more.

[Al Masters]

The sportsbook that North Americans have been playing at is owned by the Morris Mohawk Gaming Group, operating on the Canadian Indian reservation of Kahnawake, Quebec. Here's their website if you want to check them out http://www.morrismohawk.ca/en

The UK book is owned by Bodog.

The Alwyn Morris Mohawk Group never catered to all North Americans,just the American Market,it's a different Franchisee for Canada and Mexico.

[Al Masters]

will the new usa bodog, that won't be called bodog anymore, actually start taking euro-players or will all euro-players still be restricted to that retarded bodog.uk-website.

Now that Alwyn Morris(owner of the U.S Bodog franchise) has got himself a nice sheet through using the Bodog brand the last bunch of years,in 2012 he will keep the same url with a different name, keep all the money for himself and his group,no mre huge royalties to Calvin plus these guys may also be the only ones not intimidated by the American Govt.

He will not do anything to step on the feet of UK Bodog or any other Bodog franchise including Canada.

Come 2012 he may have a Monopoly on the American Market he won't need any other parts of the world and even without a Monopoly he's still only up against Heritage, BETONLINE,lEGENDS and a few others.

It's only natural after the American gov bullied all ethnic mobsters and legit guys out of the online sports betting game that the Indians would fill the void.

[JACK MATZ]

It's starting to really suck living in the land of the free!

[Monitor-Tan]

Surprising move that they would wanna add more heat to thrmselves..

[jjgold]

I'm amazed by all the simple minded people in this thread. Shari summed up what's going on simply and clearly. If you have trouble understanding it, maybe gambling isn't for you?

Pretty clear
will be smooth
some changes taking place in industry but not affecting player that much actually

[john230]

I read that Bodog is pulling out of U.S.

I read on another site that Bodog is pulling out of United States market by end of this year. Glad to see them go. With their late lines, no buying points, games in red boxes that you can not parlay, and charges for CC depoits I wil not miss them. They are a scam book.

[LVHerbie]

Bodog, bodoglife.com, bodog.eu, some type of hidden ownership by Indians in Canada that only Shari seems to know about - personally I'm starting to get real dizzy...

But, as the cockroach of the offshore industry, if there was a nuclear war I would expect bodog to still be kicking around in some form with a "business as usual" sign hanging on the front of their fallout shelter...

[GoldenRichards]

I like Bodog a lot and hope they around for a long time

[Nittany Lion]

I read through this whole thread and found it informative, as long as my money is safe at Bodog.eu (Mohawk) I'm happy. But I'm curious what's going to happen to all the people that had money on Full Tilt poker? I just played on there for fun and their software/poker program has been down for a long time now, people must be pissed if they can't take their money out.

[mitch88]

Great news for us players at least we know there are places we can still play

[jjgold]

BoDog is really on an upswing the last year
Payouts faster, customer service excellent

[mikeanite]

books are dropping like flys to the US base

[durito]

Sports.com is closed. Redirects to sb

[ex50warrior]

Great--I like having the BoDog book available for playings dogs--oftentimes get an extra 1/2 point.

[nikosgr]

If Bodog wants to have a face in Europe, then it should be ready to accept European action. Limiting after a couple of bets, and offering dual lines to players, will not help Bodog.

[pavyracer]

Bodog just received their UK license which is a very big deal for them and very expensive. They also just bought advertising on an English Premier team....also a very big investment. Bodog wants to be a global brand and get more deals done.

It's very difficult for Bodog to be under attack in the US and still be on the front of Lionel Messi's jersey. There will be a new url but will be the same software, CS, mgt....Think Bookmaker and the CRIS brand.

Messi plays for a English Premier team?

Since when?