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  • topgame85
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-30-08
    • 12325

    #1
    Where will US gambling dollars go with most not taking chances with online books?
    Game is dying regardless of what many say or want to believe, at least on the mainstream post up level. Only guys who will be willing to continue to jump through hoops are smart guys making big $ or the absolute biggest degens who are just too set in offshore sports books to move on. The books that do, if any can, survive the next year will probably find that they are not making enough money to make the risk worth it. The mainstream "fish" will be out of the water. So where do all those dollars go?

    Locals- Many have no clue or ability to find one, many will try to find a local but if they find a bad one and get stiffed they may move on I say maybe 10% offshore will actually find and play regularly with locals.

    Vegas trips- Vegas biz should go up some but most are not betting the numbers that weekly or even monthly trips are worth. Big time/cost commitment for most.

    Regional casinos- Sure they will pickup some play but still requires people to get out and travel/use more time. Also many not big fans of cards/slots.

    Delaware parlay cards for NFL- Few more guys might play these that live within an hour or two.

    State lottery, bingo etc.- Junkies may play this but does not give anywhere near the thrill of sportsbetting but if need a reasonable priced gambling fix may go this route although chances of winning even short term are very bad.

    Legal betting online-Sports fantasy daily like Draftstreet.com and horseracing sites legal in US like twinspires, xpressbet, betptc, horseplayersbet etc... Good option for most.. get range in action from small to large. Easily get funds in and out straight from bank. Small bonuses to draw people in and rebates on horseracing. Still can sit at your computer and get nonstop action. This is where much of my money has gone for last few years (horses just dabbling at draftstreet now getting accustomed). safe and viable. Most similar to offshore betting.

    Just give it up- People just give it up, pay down debts, go to movies, buy cars and clothes, go to dinners. Leave the past behind them and get on with life.

    The sky is not falling it has fallen.... the question is which group will you land in
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388189

    #2
    The sky is not falling

    Greek was not a mainstream book when it closed to usa players
    Matchbook was a cult book only used but scalpers
    Jamaica players got transferred to a top book

    There are more good books out there than ever before
    Of course harder to send money but sports betting is there if you want it
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    • topgame85
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-30-08
      • 12325

      #3
      Originally posted by jjgold
      The sky is not falling

      Greek was not a mainstream book when it closed to usa players
      Matchbook was a cult book only used but scalpers
      Jamaica players got transferred to a top book

      There are more good books out there than ever before
      Of course harder to send money but sports betting is there if you want it

      Most bettors are not like us goldstein. average joe on the street does not know how to stay in the game and is uneasy to begin with. He will not keep seeking out new outs etc. He will just find an alternative or give it up. When you have many long time posters who are heavy into the game saying they are exiting that says volumes to what the average guy will be doing. They will run as far away as possible.
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      • doublej95
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-26-10
        • 14094

        #4
        Since Bodog is cutting us off at the end of the year I will ride it out with bookmaker and then I'm done. I will use gambling money on golf.
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        • spankie
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-10-11
          • 9992

          #5
          This would be a good time for US based hardcore degenerates to quit gambling all together.
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          • unusialsusp5
            SBR MVP
            • 04-18-10
            • 4198

            #6
            locals will make a comeback to be sure. it will not be hard to find one as they will increase ten-fold. there will be someone in every sports bar who can hook you up. no more props or fancy futures but at least you will be able to get down (on credit with limits) with someone.
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            • RubberKettle
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-28-09
              • 6421

              #7
              The excess money will be spent on girls and drugs.
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              • Tech N9ne
                Restricted User
                • 06-24-11
                • 5366

                #8
                Like spankie said, quit gambling. What's the problem?
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                • topgame85
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-30-08
                  • 12325

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tech N9ne
                  Like spankie said, quit gambling. What's the problem?
                  You are a big timer tech you will stay in the game, many won't you will one way or another.
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                  • spankie
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-10-11
                    • 9992

                    #10


                    Come on boys you can do it. Just bet points like Brock.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388189

                      #11
                      Originally posted by topgame85
                      Most bettors are not like us goldstein. average joe on the street does not know how to stay in the game and is uneasy to begin with. He will not keep seeking out new outs etc. He will just find an alternative or give it up. When you have many long time posters who are heavy into the game saying they are exiting that says volumes to what the average guy will be doing. They will run as far away as possible.
                      Good point

                      Ok fantasy will get some
                      horses some (legal)
                      local bookies
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                      • cala56
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-25-10
                        • 4231

                        #12
                        Local bookies, will get some extra money,
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                        • hubie69
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-16-10
                          • 7329

                          #13
                          Locals no doubt
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                          • hubie69
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-16-10
                            • 7329

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            The sky is not falling

                            Greek was not a mainstream book when it closed to usa players
                            Matchbook was a cult book only used but scalpers
                            Jamaica players got transferred to a top book

                            There are more good books out there than ever before
                            Of course harder to send money but sports betting is there if you want it

                            But you label these books as shitty books, how good a rating did SBR give them?....yeah
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                            • doublej95
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-26-10
                              • 14094

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hubie69
                              But you label these books as shitty books, how good a rating did SBR give them?....yeah
                              I believe the was all sponsored books. Hard to believe SBR would sponsor and recommend shitty books.
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                              • starfire
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-24-10
                                • 17045

                                #16
                                Tg- no more o/u plays?
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                                • firedawg
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 10-08-08
                                  • 39219

                                  #17
                                  topper i have an agent, but that may be next to fall. when it does i am fukked.
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                                  • pavyracer
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-12-07
                                    • 82507

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    The sky is not falling

                                    Greek was not a mainstream book when it closed to usa players
                                    Matchbook was a cult book only used but scalpers
                                    Jamaica players got transferred to a top book

                                    There are more good books out there than ever before
                                    Of course harder to send money but sports betting is there if you want it
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Taxy I was suppose to meet with Spiro and interview him but the guy is moody and blew me off because I hammered him like 2 years ago on a forum and he holds it against me

                                    Even though I have him in my top 3 books of all time. He is a funny guy from what I am told. It would of been a good article too but he was afraid of me I guess so told his secretary I he was busy so I then just talked to lower end people since I was there.

                                    I have nothing to report on Spiro

                                    Sorry
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    All you do is ask on this forum and I will give you a rating, no list.

                                    I keep therm private

                                    No bullshit with the + and -

                                    Its A,B,C,D,E

                                    A Books

                                    Greek/Wagerstreet/Bet Jamaica
                                    WSEX/Matchbook
                                    Carib
                                    Pinnacle
                                    If Your Not Playing At Matchbook Your Hurting Other Players
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                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Volume getting very good, the more sign ups the greater the book becomes and more value to the player, it will be better than Pinnacle if everyone signs up and posts up some money.

                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.

                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.

                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
                                    Last edited by pavyracer; 07-26-11, 09:02 AM.
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                                    • topgame85
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-30-08
                                      • 12325

                                      #19
                                      Star, out of the game currently. Not trusting a penny offshore right now. Winning is great but hard to put in time/effort when the books may close with it all and get fcked. May put some in a week or two if no more closures and if I do will post plays again. Just not willing to take any chances right now.

                                      FD, yah that would not be good.......... i know there will always be books but at what risk and cost.
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                                      • starfire
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-24-10
                                        • 17045

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by topgame85
                                        Star, out of the game currently. Not trusting a penny offshore right now. Winning is great but hard to put in time/effort when the books may close with it all and get fcked. May put some in a week or two if no more closures and if I do will post plays again. Just not willing to take any chances right now.
                                        ok...
                                        Thanks buddy
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                                        • HauntingTheHoly
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-28-10
                                          • 1397

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by doublej95
                                          Since Bodog is cutting us off at the end of the year I will ride it out with bookmaker and then I'm done. I will use gambling money on golf.
                                          Bodog is "cutting off" US players at end of year? Is this a prediction or a known fact? And what exactly does it mean, no more deposits?
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                                          • BIGDAY
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 02-17-10
                                            • 48245

                                            #22
                                            This sucks!
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                                            • BIGDAY
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 02-17-10
                                              • 48245

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by doublej95
                                              Since Bodog is cutting us off at the end of the year I will ride it out with bookmaker and then I'm done. I will use gambling money on golf.
                                              Yupper. Same here, if Bookmaker goes down, I'll go down with the ship.
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                                              • firedawg
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 10-08-08
                                                • 39219

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by doublej95
                                                Since Bodog is cutting us off at the end of the year I will ride it out with bookmaker and then I'm done. I will use gambling money on golf.
                                                i just pulled 1k out and got some new irons
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                                                • thezbar
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-29-06
                                                  • 6421

                                                  #25
                                                  I have the option of a local if I truly want to go that way. For me off shore is still the better route.
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                                                  • spankie
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-10-11
                                                    • 9992

                                                    #26
                                                    Give it up boys.

                                                    Imagine what you can do with the money you save!
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                                                    • Mammon
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 04-08-11
                                                      • 302

                                                      #27
                                                      THe hardcore will find a way.
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                                                      • doublej95
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-26-10
                                                        • 14094

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by firedawg
                                                        i just pulled 1k out and got some new irons

                                                        Awesome. What kinda irons did you get?
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                                                        • firedawg
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 10-08-08
                                                          • 39219

                                                          #29
                                                          got some srixon z star irons
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                                                          • Doc JS
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-15-06
                                                            • 6885

                                                            #30
                                                            I'm not sure who said but when I read it I liked it a lot...

                                                            It may not be the beginning of the end, but its certainly the end of the beginning...

                                                            Reminds me of when I was a young doctor and my white haired colleagues would tell me that I had missed the Golden Age of Medicine.

                                                            Its the end of the Golden Age of on-line gambling...

                                                            Doc
                                                            Last edited by Doc JS; 07-26-11, 09:51 AM.
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                                                            • Lockitup1x
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-21-09
                                                              • 1010

                                                              #31
                                                              Brick and mortar casinos
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                                                              • Marigold HD
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-03-07
                                                                • 5053

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by cala56
                                                                Local bookies, will get some extra money,
                                                                This

                                                                Back to where it all started.
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                                                                • Doc JS
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-15-06
                                                                  • 6885

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Lockitup1x
                                                                  Brick and mortar casinos
                                                                  Not an option for many of us...
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                                                                  • Thunder Gulch
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 08-30-10
                                                                    • 996

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Locals will make a comeback. The problem is that locals just can't offer the same service and variety of action. It's easy to find them during football season, but the small timers go away when thats over and we have nowhere to turn.
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                                                                    • Roadtrip635
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 12-07-10
                                                                      • 6129

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Seems like they've been cracking down on a lot of local gambling activity around here. A pretty good size local book got arrested the morning after the Mavs won the championship, he had almost $200k on him when he got busted. There have been a 3-4, 8-liner operations busted the last couple weeks and three different rooster fighting rings busted over the last month. There's always some sort of risk involved.
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