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  • BettingGeek
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    • 10-07-10
    • 3555

    #1
    Stock tips for SBR bones
    Throw me couple bones. I'll tip you some good infos here daily.
    I need to get that ipod for girlfriend.
  • Ninersnut
    SBR MVP
    • 05-20-10
    • 3730

    #2
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    • flyingillini
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-06-06
      • 41219

      #3
      Altria Group, Inc. Symbol is "MO" Been into this for a while now..... This will make some money....
      המוסד‎
      המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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      • swaindexter
        SBR MVP
        • 02-27-07
        • 1228

        #4
        That is too funny
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        • Emily_Haines
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-14-09
          • 15917

          #5
          You got to be out of your mind buying stocks during a depression.

          May as well just light your money on fire.
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          • JerseyLove
            SBR MVP
            • 02-15-10
            • 2183

            #6
            Originally posted by flyingillini
            Altria Group, Inc. Symbol is "MO" Been into this for a while now..... This will make some money....
            I have the same stock. Nothing like a stock that offers a pure addiction once they try the project!
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            • BettingGeek
              Restricted User
              • 10-07-10
              • 3555

              #7
              Originally posted by flyingillini
              Altria Group, Inc. Symbol is "MO" Been into this for a while now..... This will make some money....
              Short term (1-2 month) - yeah, it'll make money
              Long term (3-9 month) - wouldn't recommend since it's hovering around 52-week high plus economy still in bad shape.
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              • BettingGeek
                Restricted User
                • 10-07-10
                • 3555

                #8
                Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                You got to be out of your mind buying stocks during a depression.

                May as well just light your money on fire.
                Who say we're buying here?

                You know how I do baby. Now, throw me some bones ... and I'll tell you what stocks to short.
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                • Ninersnut
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-20-10
                  • 3730

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                  You got to be out of your mind buying stocks during a depression. May as well just light your money on fire.
                  Yeah much smarter to pull ur 401k out and get destroyed on taxes.
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                  • FindTheLock
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-27-10
                    • 7194

                    #10
                    short the Housing market for $$
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                    • UntilTheNDofTimE
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-29-08
                      • 9285

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                      You got to be out of your mind buying stocks during a depression.

                      May as well just light your money on fire.
                      The stock market evolved 20 years ago. You make much more money through options and shorting stocks. Theres millions to be made shorting major financials.
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                      • opie1988
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-12-10
                        • 23429

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FindTheLock
                        short the Housing market for $$
                        About 2 years too late.
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                        • UntilTheNDofTimE
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-29-08
                          • 9285

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ninersnut
                          Yeah much smarter to pull ur 401k out and get destroyed on taxes.
                          You that was dumb as hell emily needs to have a 9% ROI on sportsbetting for 4 years just to break even on her original cash out. Not including any lost appreciation over that period. So more like needing a 11% ROI just to get even lol.
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                          • Emily_Haines
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-14-09
                            • 15917

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ninersnut
                            Yeah much smarter to pull ur 401k out and get destroyed on taxes.
                            Yes you just keep yours sitting in there earning 0.6% on fixed investments. Or you can buy some stocks and pray like hell the thing don't drop 2500 in a day. If you really kick ass you might be able to barely beat inflation.
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                            • FindTheLock
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-27-10
                              • 7194

                              #15
                              Originally posted by opie1988
                              About 2 years too late.
                              SRS here's what happened today...http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...ie=UTF-8&q=SRS
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                              • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-29-08
                                • 9285

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                Yes you just keep yours sitting in there earning 0.6% on fixed investments. Or you can buy some stocks and pray like hell the thing don't drop 2500 in a day. If you really kick ass you might be able to barely beat inflation.
                                Ive made 9% over the last 2 years on my 401k. Maybe if you did a little research on it youd be better off. Even at 0.6% you have a 25% + EV from paying taxes on it. Tax free growth as well until you withdraw.
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                                • Ninersnut
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-20-10
                                  • 3730

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                  Yes you just keep yours sitting in there earning 0.6% on fixed investments. Or you can buy some stocks and pray like hell the thing don't drop 2500 in a day. If you really kick ass you might be able to barely beat inflation.
                                  So taking money out and getting hit with penalty is -$ while making .6% (not like anyone actually gets that return) is +$. Seems logical Emily but maybe in your world where the sky is falling and your gonna turn ur 50k to 500k getting rivered every night
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                                  • BettingGeek
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 10-07-10
                                    • 3555

                                    #18
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                                    • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-29-08
                                      • 9285

                                      #19
                                      If emily cashed out 100k shed received like 55-60k after tax n penalty. Smmmmmarrrrt.
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                                      • Emily_Haines
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-14-09
                                        • 15917

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                        Ive made 9% over the last 2 years on my 401k. Maybe if you did a little research on it youd be better off. Even at 0.6% you have a 25% + EV from paying taxes on it. Tax free growth as well until you withdraw.
                                        How did you do the two years before. I doubt your any where near back to even yet.

                                        BTW other than the 10% penalty I will pay the same taxes as you.

                                        Plus I have the relief that the government can't fuk me anymore. Your going to have to sweat:

                                        1] Raising of the age you can withdraw without penalty
                                        2] Increase in taxes on 401K withdraws
                                        3] Government takeover of all 401Ks
                                        4] Plus your playing a rigged game and your on the wrong team.
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                                        • FindTheLock
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-27-10
                                          • 7194

                                          #21
                                          give me some more stocks to short. I like betting on the market to fail, it is the inevitable option.
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                                          • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 05-29-08
                                            • 9285

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                            How did you do the two years before. I doubt your any where near back to even yet.

                                            BTW other than the 10% penalty I will pay the same taxes as you.

                                            Plus I have the relief that the government can't fuk me anymore. Your going to have to sweat:

                                            1] Raising of the age you can withdraw without penalty
                                            2] Increase in taxes on 401K withdraws
                                            3] Government takeover of all 401Ks
                                            4] Plus your playing a rigged game and your on the wrong team.
                                            Ive only been contributing for 2 years but your rebuttal is equally stupid.

                                            From the early 90's to 2008 people made a average of 7% a year so if a person had started there 401k in 1990 contributing 5,000 with a 2,000 company match. This wud cost them 3800 in take home income but instead they get 7,000. At 7% a year in 2007 there balance wud be 230,993. When they contributed a total of 64,600(3800 x 17 years). Lets say they lost 50% in 2008 down to 115,000. There still getting a cool 200% on there investment.
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                                            • Ninersnut
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-20-10
                                              • 3730

                                              #23
                                              Not worth it buddy hhe doesn't understand the concept of compound interest. The tin foil hat is on cause the government is out to Fukk him
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                                              • Emily_Haines
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 04-14-09
                                                • 15917

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                Ive only been contributing for 2 years but your rebuttal is equally stupid.

                                                From the early 90's to 2008 people made a average of 7% a year so if a person had started there 401k in 1990 contributing 5,000 with a 2,000 company match. This wud cost them 3800 in take home income but instead they get 7,000. At 7% a year in 2007 there balance wud be 230,993. When they contributed a total of 64,600(3800 x 17 years). Lets say they lost 50% in 2008 down to 115,000. There still getting a cool 200% on there investment.
                                                Yep, you can just count on that 7% return year after year. All it takes is two bad days and poof those three years of gains are gone. Your better of betting NFL sides than throwing your money away in stock market.

                                                I personally like all the experts who are all still working telling me I'm stupid. Maybe if you would go against the conventional wisdom you could also break out from the slave system in American that most people are stuck in.
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                                                • Ninersnut
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-20-10
                                                  • 3730

                                                  #25
                                                  Let us know when u get more that 15% ROI playing poker.
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                                                  • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 05-29-08
                                                    • 9285

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                    Yep, you can just count on that 7% return year after year. All it takes is two bad days and poof those three years of gains are gone. Your better of betting NFL sides than throwing your money away in stock market.

                                                    I personally like all the experts who are all still working telling me I'm stupid. Maybe if you would go against the conventional wisdom you could also break out from the slave system in American that most people are stuck in.
                                                    No the slaves are the ones who pay a mortgage and finance theres lives and never get out of debt. But by going against the grain u mean liqudating your net worth 35% and tring to make a 400% return over 20 years at a game with a -4.55% house edge vs a program with a 32% APY +ev go ahead. More power to you. If you cashed out your 401k to fund a business that be a diifferent story but u made a bad financial decision to finance a -ev sports investment that u tilt at n chase.
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                                                    • FindTheLock
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-27-10
                                                      • 7194

                                                      #27
                                                      sports betting is less volatile than the current stock market overall.
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                                                      • nosniboR11
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-02-08
                                                        • 10042

                                                        #28
                                                        I love it when people talk about this stuff, it makes me laugh
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                                                        • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-29-08
                                                          • 9285

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by FindTheLock
                                                          sports betting is less volatile than the current stock market overall.
                                                          True but what percent make a net profit? And sports betting isnt a tax deferred growth.
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                                                          • downsouth
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-13-11
                                                            • 11580

                                                            #30
                                                            I actually buy real estate and turn into rentals. Very easy to cash flow in this market with a continued source of people losing/unable to buy homes that will need to live somewhere. Buying properties at historically low prices makes a positive return easily attainable even when accounting for default, maintenance and upkeep.
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                                                            • FindTheLock
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-27-10
                                                              • 7194

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                              True but what percent make a net profit? And sports betting isnt a tax deferred growth.
                                                              There are upsides and downsides to all sides. Just a matter of preference I guess. Some do better than others, but we all do it our own way...
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                                                              • Emily_Haines
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-14-09
                                                                • 15917

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                                No the slaves are the ones who pay a mortgage and finance theres lives and never get out of debt. But by going against the grain u mean liqudating your net worth 35% and tring to make a 400% return over 20 years at a game with a -4.55% house edge vs a program with a 32% APY +ev go ahead. More power to you. If you cashed out your 401k to fund a business that be a diifferent story but u made a bad financial decision to finance a -ev sports investment that u tilt at n chase.
                                                                I paid off my house and have a few bucks left to gamble with. There is no telling you any different because you have been so conditioned by the media, government and stock advisers. I wonder how all those people in Japan felt when the Nikkie 225 dropped from 40K to 25K. Just hang in there and keep sticking 15% of your income in this sucker because historically the returns have averaged 8% for the previous 40 years.



                                                                Now 20 years later the thing has dropped from that 25K to 10K. America is going through the same thing as Japan. Major housing collapse, high unemployment and massive debt. You really think that can't happen here?
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                                                                • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 05-29-08
                                                                  • 9285

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                                  I paid off my house and have a few bucks left to gamble with. There is no telling you any different because you have been so conditioned by the media, government and stock advisers. I wonder how all those people in Japan felt when the Nikkie 225 dropped from 40K to 25K. Just hang in there and keep sticking 15% of your income in this sucker because historically the returns have averaged 8% for the previous 40 years. Now 20 years later the thing has dropped from that 25K to 10K. America is going through the same thing as Japan. Major housing collapse, high unemployment and massive debt. You really think that can't happen here?
                                                                  Must you need me to explain to you how even with a world market dropping 75% over 30 years with tax deferred growth and company matches you'd still make more money than had you saved your taxed income and stuck it in a savings account. i explained above how over 20 years if your 401k dropped 50% in 1 day you still be getting 200% on your investment.

                                                                  Apparently ignorance is bliss.
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                                                                  • Emily_Haines
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-14-09
                                                                    • 15917

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                                    Must you need me to explain to you how even with a world market dropping 75% over 30 years with tax deferred growth and company matches you'd still make more money than had you saved your taxed income and stuck it in a savings account. i explained above how over 20 years if your 401k dropped 50% in 1 day you still be getting 200% on your investment.

                                                                    Apparently ignorance is bliss.

                                                                    Whatever enjoy your job. I'm going to do it another way.
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                                                                    • Ninersnut
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-20-10
                                                                      • 3730

                                                                      #35
                                                                      It's amazing that a person is going to try to make a living off of a game that mainly involves math, numbers, %'s but can't understand the concept of that tricky compounding interest.
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