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  • ttwarrior1
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    • 06-23-09
    • 28463

    #1
    Roger Clemens trial tommorrow
    1. Who is paying the money to fund this trial? Its expected to last 6 weeks??????? why 6 weeks
    Are these attorneys really waking up in the morning to try to put clemens in jail and getting paid for it?

    Cashman or whoever he is does not sound credible on an level. yes clemens probaly took gh , but
    Clemens became a better pitcher because he developed a split finger fastball. He did not improve
    his strength, endurance, or anything. He pitched much harder in the 80's and early 90s.

    He never flunked any test. Hell if andy pettite took gh then probaly 90 percent of mlb took hgh or roids.

    We have much bigger problems in the world then having a 6 week trial for roger clemens
  • thebestthereis
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-01-09
    • 11459

    #2
    clemens never did any juice, or any illegal drugs not allowed by mlb. he would never lie.
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    • WvGambler
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-19-10
      • 11618

      #3
      I agree with TT....bigger fish to fry at this point.
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      • neverstoppers23
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-26-09
        • 6302

        #4
        Its not really about him taking it, its about him lying about it to congress. If he would just admitted like a man to the charges, say yeah i took HGH sometimes to recover from X injury. The public would probably have forgiven him and he wouldn't be facing prison time.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          I hope he goes to prison and gets it in the ass

          He is a piece of garbage

          No way to throw that hard at an advanced age
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          • ahayes
            SBR Sharp
            • 10-10-10
            • 391

            #6
            let it go why wast the time
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            • Roadtrip635
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-07-10
              • 6129

              #7
              Originally posted by jjgold
              No way to throw that hard at an advanced age
              Ever heard of Nolan Ryan?
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              • TexansFan
                SBR MVP
                • 09-06-06
                • 3365

                #8
                Sets a bad example if you take an oath not to lie and then outright lie to Congress. Clemens only has himself to blame for being an arrogant a-hole.
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                • ttwarrior1
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                  • 06-23-09
                  • 28463

                  #9
                  jj he wasn't throwing that hard, not even close to what he was before. He developed a split finger fastball and off speed pitches.

                  As far as lying. I don't trust cashman.
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                  • justwinthisone
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-27-10
                    • 1604

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TexansFan
                    Sets a bad example if you take an oath not to lie and then outright lie to Congress. Clemens only has himself to blame for being an arrogant a-hole.
                    U r right about the arrogant a-hole part. I met him when I was little and he was playing for the red sox. He was my fav player up until that day.
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                    • Mike Huntertz
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-19-09
                      • 11207

                      #11
                      Will be fun to watch him lie.
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                      • BEANTOWNJIM
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-12-05
                        • 4610

                        #12
                        SO ROGER DID YOU TAKE STEROIDS

                        I DONT KNOW I MISS REMEMBERED

                        MISS REMEMBERED OH ROGER YOUR SCREWED
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                        • itchypickle
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-05-09
                          • 21452

                          #13
                          he wont get punished....oh well
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                          • jose21_us
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-24-10
                            • 3844

                            #14
                            Do you still believe Palmero took steriods? lol
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                            • bb_skoots
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-04-11
                              • 1088

                              #15
                              Clemens is going on trial for perjury , not illegal drug use. That seems like it was years ago he testified. It will cost Clemens alot of money for defense. He is facing 6 counts and the Feds have a 90 per cent conviction rate.

                              Also this prosecuter got Miguel Tejado to plea bargain to a misdemeaneor for the same type of charges.

                              BTW its Brian McNamee.
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                              • BiffTFinancial
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-29-09
                                • 22670

                                #16
                                Brian Cashman's lawyers considering filing suit over this thread right now....
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                                • raiders32
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 03-17-10
                                  • 566

                                  #17
                                  Trial is a waste of time and money.
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                                  • joesomebody114
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 07-23-07
                                    • 713

                                    #18
                                    Who cares, he took some juice now has a JJ-sized rooster
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                                    • keenecharger21
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 02-21-11
                                      • 378

                                      #19
                                      Nothings goignto happen there just wasting time
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                                      • chance
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 06-16-08
                                        • 682

                                        #20
                                        I believe in Santa Clause , the tooth fairy, easter bunny, OJ, and the Rocket.
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                                        • Sportsbetting123
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-01-08
                                          • 1400

                                          #21
                                          It really is amazing how much time these trials take. Such a waste of money- they could definitely do something like this in less than a week.
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65710

                                            #22
                                            Bonds gets it, he lets his water carrying boot, lick do the time for him.
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                                            • MarlinsFan2212
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-19-10
                                              • 1325

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                              clemens never did any juice, or any illegal drugs not allowed by mlb. he would never lie.
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                                              • ex50warrior
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-10-09
                                                • 3823

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by neverstoppers23
                                                Its not really about him taking it, its about him lying about it to congress. If he would just admitted like a man to the charges, say yeah i took HGH sometimes to recover from X injury. The public would probably have forgiven him and he wouldn't be facing prison time.

                                                Exactly. Even McGwire has at least partially recovered after coming clean.
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                                                • mtneer1212
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-22-08
                                                  • 4993

                                                  #25
                                                  The worst part about it is that Clemens never had to testify. He volunteered. His ego and his legacy got the best of him.
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                                                  • unusialsusp5
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-18-10
                                                    • 4198

                                                    #26
                                                    roger is dumber than a post. a red neck texan who got caught and wasn't smart enough to admit it. andy pettite wouldn't lie and now roger must pay.
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                                                    • SEAHAWKHARRY
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                                                      • 11-29-07
                                                      • 26069

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      I hope he goes to prison and gets it in the ass

                                                      He is a piece of garbage

                                                      No way to throw that hard at an advanced age
                                                      Probably cost you a few hairpieces huh JJ...
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                                                      • Scalamanga
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 09-02-07
                                                        • 179

                                                        #28
                                                        Maybe Roger and Barry can split a cell.
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                                                        • Wiggums5
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-05-10
                                                          • 2409

                                                          #29
                                                          who cares, I forgot about this moron until now
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                                                          • bb_skoots
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                                                            • 05-04-11
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                                                            #30


                                                            He might want to plead guilty so he can get house arrest.
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                                                            • ttwarrior1
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                                                              • 06-23-09
                                                              • 28463

                                                              #31
                                                              casey anthony trial ended just in time for his trial to get more plubicity
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                                                              • ttwarrior1
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                                                                • 06-23-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Roger Clemens had participated in his final major league game a few months earlier, not that he didn’t have a final pitch in him.
                                                                "Let me be clear,'' Clemens told a congressional subcommittee in February 2008, "I have never taken steroids or HGH.''




                                                                Former Yankees pitcher Andy Pettitte is just one of the notable figures in the Roger Clemens trial.

                                                                Such bold statements eventually led to perjury and obstruction charges against Clemens, a seven-time Cy Young Award winner who will enter court this week in his latest — and most perilous — attempt to clear his sullied name. Jury selection begins Wednesday in Washington, D.C., in a trial that is expected to last up to six weeks.
                                                                Clemens became defiant when he was first linked to the use of performance-enhancing drugs in the 2007 Mitchell Report that detailed baseball’s steroid era. His continued contrariness all but guaranteed the 24-year major league veteran would end up in a courtroom, where he faces 21 months in prison under current sentencing guidelines and up to a $1.5 million fine if convicted of all six counts.
                                                                “Clemens was a loud, outspoken and aggressive player,” said Mac Mukasey, a former federal prosecutor. “It was clear he brought that same approach to this case. Clemens essentially challenged Congress to prove him wrong. He dared them.”
                                                                Former congressman Tom Davis, who headed the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said he offered Clemens an opportunity to forgo his 2008 hearing.



                                                                Instead, Clemens put on a show where he famously said longtime friend and teammate Andy Pettitte “misremembered” a discussion about performance-enhancing drugs and disputed the claims made by his former friend and personal trainer, Brian McNamee, who sat two seats away.
                                                                Clemens also rebuffed a plea bargain that would have resulted in no jail time but would have forced him to admit he used banned substances.
                                                                Clemens, 48, has been quiet in recent months because a gag order was put in place in the case. However, he did tell a Las Vegas radio station in April “alls you have to do is know how to read” to see he’s innocent. Rusty Hardin, Clemens’ Houston-based attorney, has been similarly brash, filing a since-dismissed defamation suit against McNamee and by repeatedly berating him, whether in court or elsewhere.
                                                                “Hardin should have done whatever he could to keep Clemens’ mouth shut,” said Peter Keane, dean emeritus of the Golden Gate University School of Law in San Francisco. “Clemens is the ultimate loose cannon, and unfortunately for Clemens, his lawyer is an enabler. When your client is driving himself off a cliff, you don’t push the accelerator down.”
                                                                It’s not yet clear whether Clemens will take the next step, logical or not — testifying in his own defense.
                                                                Experts believe Clemens is in a much more tenuous position than all-time home run king Barry Bonds, who went to trial for similar charges in March. (Bonds was found guilty of one count of obstruction, but jurors were deadlocked on three counts of perjury.)

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                                                                Clemens made many of his statements, which will be dissected under oath, in public. Bonds testified behind closed doors to a grand jury investigating Bay Area Lab Co-Operative (BALCO), a company in Burlingame, Calif., that distributed performance-enhancing drugs.
                                                                Clemens also will be confronted with physical evidence and, arguably, a more formidable witness list headlined by Pettitte. As in the Bonds case, the government is expected to try to prove that perjury will not be tolerated and to use high-profile athletes to show youngsters the downside of performance-enhancing drugs.
                                                                The BALCO case, the Mitchell Report, exposes written by Jose Canseco and the trials of arguably the best slugger (Bonds) and pitcher (Clemens) of their era have left the public with “steroid fatigue,” as doping expert Gary Wadler calls it. The use of performance-enhancing drugs might not be as sexy a topic as it once was, but the man charged with policing drug use by U.S. Olympic athletes believes the Clemens case should still be pursued.
                                                                “Fraud, corruption and drug abuse are all important and should be exposed,” said Travis Tygart, CEO of the US Anti-Doping Agency. “Our research shows there are 165 million people in the U.S. who cite a deep, personal connection with sports. They see doping as its biggest threat. People get sick of the headlines, but doping remains a threat to one of the most important social institutions.”



                                                                The investigations, often spearheaded by federal agent Jeff Novitzky, have cost millions of dollars, and they likely won’t stop with Clemens. Seven-time Tour de France champ Lance Armstrong is under investigation by a federal grand jury in Los Angeles empanelled to examine whether he defrauded his team’s main sponsor, the US Postal Service, by using performance-enhancing drugs; Armstrong has denied using PEDs.
                                                                “I think the public has already formulated an opinion on both Clemens and Armstrong,” said Victor Conte, cofounder of BALCO. “I definitely don’t think it’s worth spending tens of millions of federal tax dollars to go after them. When is enough, enough?”
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