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  • TxPilot
    SBR Rookie
    • 06-30-11
    • 21

    #1
    help for a newbie
    Im fairly new to sports betting. can somone tell me if this is a decent bet or a dumb bet (and why)

    I want to bet on three players to win the wimbledon. here is what i want to do:


    Novak Djokovic +225 risk 150.00 to win 337.50
    Nadal +135 risk 200.00 to win 270.00
    Tsonga +550 rick 100.00 to win 550.00

    Basicly betting 450.00 on Murray to NOT win.


    Im a big tennis fan and I hate overlooking Andy but these really are my top 3 to win it. I think this is also a good bet beacuse I believe Murray has the toughest road. he will have to most likly beat nadal and novak for my bet to not come through.

    Any thoughts on this type of bet would be helpfull... Thanks in Advance
  • TxPilot
    SBR Rookie
    • 06-30-11
    • 21

    #2
    bump... anyone?
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    • robmpink
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-09-07
      • 13205

      #3
      Originally posted by TxPilot
      bump... anyone?
      What does bump mean? What are his odds?
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      • InTheDrink
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-23-09
        • 23983

        #4
        So the only way you can win money is by having Tsonga win...but you wouldn't win as much as if you just bet him by himself. Yeah, not a good bet.
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        • doublej95
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-26-10
          • 14094

          #5
          Your bet should be more like this if you believe Murray will not win.
          Djokovic +225 108.46/244
          Nadal +135 150/202.5
          Tsonga +550 54.23/298.26


          total profit of $39.81


          Murray wins your screwed
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          • TxPilot
            SBR Rookie
            • 06-30-11
            • 21

            #6
            Originally posted by InTheDrink
            So the only way you can win money is by having Tsonga win...but you wouldn't win as much as if you just bet him by himself. Yeah, not a good bet.

            no... i win money if nadal wins i win money if novak wins and i win alot of money if tsonga wins...
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            • onacloud
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-14-10
              • 5360

              #7
              Just go all in

              A.Murray wins Wimbledon +424
              Field wins Wimbledon -547
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              • TxPilot
                SBR Rookie
                • 06-30-11
                • 21

                #8
                Originally posted by onacloud
                Just go all in

                A.Murray wins Wimbledon +424
                Field wins Wimbledon -547

                Where did these come from? ... how do i do the math to translate all three of those plus bets and compare it to murray like you did into one big minus bet?
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                • robmpink
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-09-07
                  • 13205

                  #9
                  Who the f is Bump?
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                  • doublej95
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-26-10
                    • 14094

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TxPilot


                    Where did these come from? ... how do i do the math to translate all three of those plus bets and compare it to murray like you did into one big minus bet?

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                    • TxPilot
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 06-30-11
                      • 21

                      #11

                      Thanks a bunch
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                      • doublej95
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-26-10
                        • 14094

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TxPilot


                        Thanks a bunch
                        anytime.
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                        • InTheDrink
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-23-09
                          • 23983

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TxPilot


                          no... i win money if nadal wins i win money if novak wins and i win alot of money if tsonga wins...
                          No you don't. You're playing 400 total. You "win" 337.50 if Djokavic wins, netting -62.50. You "win" 270 on Nadal, netting -130 and you "win" 550 if Tsonga wins, so in this case you do actually net 150 but if you just played him and not risk losing money by winning with the other guys then you would have won 550.
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                          • onacloud
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-14-10
                            • 5360

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TxPilot
                            Where did these come from? ... how do i do the math to translate all three of those plus bets and compare it to murray like you did into one big minus bet?
                            5 Dimes Tennis Props
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                            • TxPilot
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 06-30-11
                              • 21

                              #15
                              Originally posted by robmpink
                              Who the f is Bump?
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                              • TxPilot
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 06-30-11
                                • 21

                                #16
                                Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                No you don't. You're playing 400 total. You "win" 337.50 if Djokavic wins, netting -62.50. You "win" 270 on Nadal, netting -130 and you "win" 550 if Tsonga wins, so in this case you do actually net 150 but if you just played him and not risk losing money by winning with the other guys then you would have won 550.

                                Im risking a total of 450... and i get the money i "risk" back if it wins... on all three of the bets the risk plus reward is more than 450

                                how am I not understanding this...
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                                • InTheDrink
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-23-09
                                  • 23983

                                  #17
                                  Yeah you're right my bad. Anyway I'm not sure why you'd want to bet 450 to win 20 or 37.50. As noted if Murray wins you're fukked. And the point still stands. If you wanna play this you're better off playing Tsonga on his own.
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                                  • babyjesus
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-17-11
                                    • 994

                                    #18
                                    betting dogs is tough. best of luck!
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                                    • TxPilot
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 06-30-11
                                      • 21

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                      Yeah you're right my bad. Anyway I'm not sure why you'd want to bet 450 to win 20 or 37.50. As noted if Murray wins you're fukked. And the point still stands. If you wanna play this you're better off playing Tsonga on his own.
                                      what do you meen his own line? i am betting these all on their own lines...
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                                      • onacloud
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-14-10
                                        • 5360

                                        #20
                                        You could risk 450 to win 37.50 your way or do what I said and risk 450 to win 80ish
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                                        • InTheDrink
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-23-09
                                          • 23983

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TxPilot

                                          what do you meen his own line? i am betting these all on their own lines...
                                          As in by himself. You're okay with risking 450 to win 20 or 37.50? You're basically turning Nadal into -2200
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                                          • frizzelli
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-06-10
                                            • 8916

                                            #22
                                            The twink asks for advice and than welshes at peoples advice fuk him.
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                                            • TxPilot
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 06-30-11
                                              • 21

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by onacloud
                                              You could risk 450 to win 37.50 your way or do what I said and risk 450 to win 80ish
                                              the site im using doesnt have that line... point em to the best online book kind sir!
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                                              • TxPilot
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 06-30-11
                                                • 21

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by frizzelli
                                                The twink asks for advice and than welshes at peoples advice fuk him.

                                                What are you talking about man? im taking everyones advice with eager ears...
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                                                • onacloud
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 10-14-10
                                                  • 5360

                                                  #25
                                                  Risking 450 to win only 30 is not smart and you will eventually lose everything betting like that I'd put 450 on nadal v murray since you think murray has no shot better odds.
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                                                  • nosniboR11
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-02-08
                                                    • 10042

                                                    #26
                                                    welcome first off

                                                    good luck and hope you are not someone's ghost

                                                    Like your name tho
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                                                    • TxPilot
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 06-30-11
                                                      • 21

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by onacloud
                                                      You could risk 450 to win 37.50 your way or do what I said and risk 450 to win 80ish
                                                      I dont mind only winning 20-30 bucks if i have the oppertunity to win a big pot if stonga comes through. ( he did beat federer after all)
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                                                      • iMxth3xbossx5000
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-11-09
                                                        • 4983

                                                        #28
                                                        Why are so many people riding fatass Tsonga to beat Djokovic? Are u kiddin me?
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61745

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TxPilot
                                                          Im fairly new to sports betting. can somone tell me if this is a decent bet or a dumb bet (and why)

                                                          I want to bet on three players to win the wimbledon. here is what i want to do:


                                                          Novak Djokovic +225 risk 150.00 to win 337.50
                                                          Nadal +135 risk 200.00 to win 270.00
                                                          Tsonga +550 rick 100.00 to win 550.00

                                                          Basicly betting 450.00 on Murray to NOT win.


                                                          Im a big tennis fan and I hate overlooking Andy but these really are my top 3 to win it. I think this is also a good bet beacuse I believe Murray has the toughest road. he will have to most likly beat nadal and novak for my bet to not come through.

                                                          Any thoughts on this type of bet would be helpfull... Thanks in Advance
                                                          If you are simply against Murray, you could just take Nadal today at -185... $225 to win $121. Then you still have $225 to bet against Murray tomorrow if he happens to get up against Nadal.

                                                          And if he ends up in the final against Tsonga, you will get good enough odds on the Frenchman to win more than your current potential $200 profit backing Tsonga with the remaining $225 then anyway.
                                                          .
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                                                          • PickApprentice
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-20-10
                                                            • 1895

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Optional

                                                            If you are simply against Murray, you could just take Nadal today at -185... $225 to win $121. Then you still have $225 to bet against Murray tomorrow if he happens to get up against Nadal.

                                                            And if he ends up in the final against Tsonga, you will get good enough odds on the Frenchman to win more than your current potential $200 profit backing Tsonga with the remaining $225 then anyway.
                                                            Yes, he is right. The price for the outright is also priced correctly, therefore, no point in spreading your bets.
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