jordan, magic, and bird, would have never..

[hoopster42]

gone 6 for 19 from the floor in a game that big, and would have never let their team lose a lead that big in a game that mattered that much, no way they would have lost, which is why they are legendary, and kobe is a notch below, its reality kobe lovers, your boy is not in the same sentence as the above 3, and i know it kills him to hear that, he has 3 rings (thanks to shaq), all the talent, money, and women he wants, plus a gorgeous wife, but he will always be empty inside because he wants so badly to be like mike, but he is hidden in mike's shadow

yes, as a kobe hater, i'm loving every minute of it

[Shark79]

gone 6 for 19 from the floor in a game that big, and would have never let their team lose a lead that big in a game that mattered that much, no way they would have lost, which is why they are legendary, and kobe is a notch below, its reality kobe lovers, your boy is not in the same sentence as the above 3, and i know it kills him to hear that, he has 3 rings (thanks to shaq), all the talent, money, and women he wants, plus a gorgeous wife, but he will always be empty inside because he wants so badly to be like mike, but he is hidden in mike's shadow

yes, as a kobe hater, i'm loving every minute of it

He should be in prison

[hoopster42]

sharkster, no one but he and the girl were in that room, so nobody knows exactly what happened, and i don't want this thread to turn into that whole topic, respectfuly,

what i would like to talk about however, is kobe's status as a notch below the greats of the game, because he lacks the killer instinct that the stars of yesteryear had, it is killing him inside, and i know it because i know people who actually have hung out with him, he openly wants to be the considered the greatest nba player of all time, but the reality is that he is not even close, and at age 30 and12 yrs in, he's running out of time

[Shark79]

He failed the team/coach/supporters and most importantly Jack Nicholson.

He wont be leaving his room today

[SlickFazzer]

Kobe folded up like a cheap tent.

[hoopster42]

the guy is one of the greatest pure talents i have ever seen on a basketball floor, and i have been watching since like 1980, i would say kobe is as athletic a guy and as physically talented a guy as there has ever been in the nba, but he lacks the killer instinct and it factor that the greats of the game have, i do not believe kobe will win another ring because he can never co-exist with another superstar again, and if pau gets to uppity, watch kobe put his ass in place next season and beyond

[SBR Lou]

I wouldn't put all the blame on Kobe at all..

[hoopster42]

he's part of the problem, crazy, and when the team loses, the superstar who in this case revels in that position, is gonna get blame, he goes for 3 pts and 6 assists in the first half as they finish with an 18 pt lead, then in the 2nd half, he starts to panic and goes old kobe, and the lead is withered away, if you don't think kobe is missing the killer instinct that the greats had, then you and i are watching two different nba's

[jjgold]

He is too laid back and just went through the motions last night, this will be a huge mark on his career. He is not a great game closer either. If he won the series he would of been compared to Jordan but now that is all over, he tarnished his career last night. He should of been more aggressive when Boston started closing in.

Lets be honest here though, Boston is the superior team and spotted them 24 points and still won, one of the greatest defensive teams ever.

[hoopster42]

all true JJ

[Tsoprano]

Kobe Bryant is great at kicking teams when they are down in the 4th quarter, and a great closer, but in this series he has not shown this. And he CANT complain about calls being bias, etc. We saw u and beat u in LA Phil.

[hoopster42]

Kobe Bryant is great at kicking teams when they are down in the 4th quarter, and a great closer, but in this series he has not shown this. And he CANT complain about calls being bias, etc. We saw u and beat u in LA Phil.

kobe great at closing regular season games, and maybe early playoffs, but without shaq, the guy cannot get it done in the games that matter the most,

[Tsoprano]

kobe great at closing regular season games, and maybe early playoffs, but without shaq, the guy cannot get it done in the games that matter the most,

[jjgold]

I think the world knows now Lebron is 20x the player Kobe is

[armyoflovers]

If I remember correctly, Larry Legend shot like shit in the 1979 Championship game vs Mich St so he did lay a fat-ass egg.....it can happen to anyone

[hoopster42]

If I remember correctly, Larry Legend shot like shit in the 1979 Championship game vs Mich St so he did lay a fat-ass egg.....it can happen to anyone

terrible example. apples n oranges. bird was 19 yrs young in that game. kobe is 30 yrs old rite now n has been in the nba for 12 seasons.

try again.

[hoopster42]

I think the world knows now Lebron is 20x the player Kobe is

and 20X the human being too

[SBR Lou]

I think the world knows now Lebron is 20x the player Kobe is

LeBron:
- dunk
- layup

Kobe:
-dunk
-layup
- scoop shot
- finger roll
- hook shot
- left handed hook shot
- running hook shot
- left handed running hook shot
- post up, up-and-under
- post up, spin move, either direction
- post up, fadeaway
- post up, spin-move, bank shot
- post up, spin-move, fadeaway
- post up, spin-move, fadeaway bank shot
- post up, spin-move, fadeaway double-clutch bank shot
- 180- fadeaway bank shot
- 180- double-clutch fadeaway bank shot
- mid range jumper
- mid range fadeaway
- mid range bank shot
- baseline fadeaway
- long range jumper
- long range fadeaway
- long range bank shot
- 3 point jump shot
- 3 point fadeaway
- 3 point bank shot
- 35 foot 3 point shot

[hoopster42]

crazy, if you think lebron can only dunk n shoot layups, you're not watching enough of him, and as sharp as you are about sports, you cannot believe what you just typed

[SBR Lou]

crazy, if you think lebron can only dunk n shoot layups, you're not watching enough of him, and as sharp as you are about sports, you cannot believe what you just typed

Lebron is real good shooting without a man in his face, he is nowhere, nowhere close to as talented a shooter as Kobe is. Kobe can nail shots with a hand in his face all day, Lebron can't nearly as much.

Lebron is an overrated figure that is sold to people to pump interest in the NBA, that's why often times this year plenty of great highlights or finishes are bypassed to see "Lebrons dunks" even in games Cleveland would lose...

[hoopster42]

Lebron is real good shooting without a man in his face, he is nowhere, nowhere close to as talented a shooter as Kobe is. Kobe can nail shots with a hand in his face all day, Lebron can't nearly as much.

Lebron is an overrated figure that is sold to people to pump interest in the NBA, that's why often times this year plenty of great highlights or finishes are bypassed to see "Lebrons dunks" even in games Cleveland would lose...

your points well taken, but kobe = 30 yrs old, lebron = 23 yrs old, and he has no shaq (the most dominant center since hakeem) to help him out, give lebron time, jj probably misspoke as did i that lebron is a better player, but lebron's performance of single-handedly beating detroit in '07 is probably something kobe could never do, lebron has more killer instinct, and if he is surrounded by more talent, he will make many finals and win many also

[onlooker]

Crazy is just in denial, hoopster.

So do you have that list saved as a notepad file, crazy? For fast copy and paste.

[jjgold]

Boston had a very hard time guarding Lebron and they used all 5 guys

Kobe cannot get to the hoop like Lebon and get fouled

Enough said

[rake922]

Boston had a very hard time guarding Lebron and they used all 5 guys

Kobe cannot get to the hoop like Lebon and get fouled

Enough said

You're right..... Lebron's strength was a major factor combined with his speed..

.... probably can bench press a house

[hoopster42]

Boston had a very hard time guarding Lebron and they used all 5 guys

Kobe cannot get to the hoop like Lebon and get fouled

Enough said

true, boston needed 7 gms to dispatch the gritty lebron and his mates, celts mite need only 5 to dispatch soft kobe and his mates

[hoopster42]

You're right..... Lebron's strength was a major factor combined with his speed..

.... probably can bench press a house

when the dude comes down the lane he's like a runaway freight train that catches flight, just insane

[Tsoprano]

Yea a lot bigger than Kobe.

[NickPappagiorgio]

Talentwise Kobe may be close to MJ, intangibles and leadershipwise, hes not a pimple on MJs ass. After watching the post game clips, I wonder if Kobe cares enough to be one of the greats