It does seem insane to pay -110 prices for wagers. We have a collection of degens here placing bets often on opposite sides of halves, games, 2nd halves. It seems like there's got to be a better way. Often times ppl suggest becoming bookies and whilst I'm sure we've all helped others place wagers and maybe even taken the action ourselves, it's still quite different than becoming a full fledged known around town bookie.
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-110 is for suckers in the long runComment -
-110 coz i have no choice. i place my bets to a sportsbook inside a casino.Comment -
Anyone who says -110 is for idiots doesn't have a clue. Surely you realize that Jazz +7 -110 is better than Jazz +6.5 -107 (current reduced juice line at 5 Dimes and Pinnacle).Comment -
donjuan,
the thing is, 98.3% of all the games, you will get a better number at matchy than any of the -110 books.. yes, every now and then, you might find 1 game every 3 days that is better than a book like matchbook. but 98.3% of the games on the board will be Jazz +6.5 -110 at the -110 book, and Jazz +6.5 +102 at matchy ...
i know this because i have 1, -110 book i play with (WSEX) and every week, i play 140 plays at matchy/pinny, and maybe 2 plays at wsex... it's just hard to give wsex more action because every line is better at matchy or pinny.
but i will assure you this, if any player here only plays into -110 books, he will stand no chance at winning money.. NO CHANCE.. unless he plays 1 game a week, but if he plays many plays a week, he has zero chance. i lay 10-15 cents better on every game than thegreek, wsex, cris and it's still a grind.. imagine for those that are paying -110 consistently? forget it.. you have a better chance at being struck by lightning.Comment -
Nicky,
That is why it is important for anyone betting with an edge to have many books available to them.Comment -
I am an old schooler and just bet -110 even though you cannot win betting those lines.
Also I do not bet -3 -125 lines ever, I rather bet -3.5 -110
Lets get back to old school bookingComment -
One of the things that I have always heard over and over on the gaming forums is just how great a book pinnacle is. And to be sure it is great in many ways such as their safety, variety of sports they offer, overnight lines, etc....
But one thing I routinely noticed is that almost never did Pinnacle have the best line out there. In fact, it was so rare for pinnacle to have the best number on a game that the majority of my bets were placed in books not named Pinnacle.
MB is somewhat similar. Rarely does it ever have the best number. Lot of times it has great juice though. If you shop around though you are almost certain to find a better number.
Same thing with some other books...BJ comes to mind. I never in my life have seen on a football saturday or sunday where Betjamaica has the best number and or best juice on a game.Comment -
any book that has outrageous wacky 20 cent lines, i wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. unless their name is cris or oly.. or one of the big name books..
try beating any of matchy's lines.. i don't think it can be done. when Cavs are +6.5 -110 everywhere, i always get Cavs +6.5 +108.. when yanks are -145/+125, matchy has yanks -127.. try beating that.. can you tell me of a book that can beat this durito? if yes, i'd love you to tell me, cause maybe i am missing out on some good book. tell me durito, i want to know.. if you know a reputable book like matchy that has their prices, you must tell me.. thanksComment -
There are a lot of other books out there besdies the 7 or 8 that advertise with SBR.....Comment -
buddy, are you nuts?? you are right about pinny, around 3% of my plays are at pinny.. but when you say matchy doesn't have the best number, you are nuts. i have a line service and i am looking at 14 books, and 92.3% of the time, matchy has by far the best line.
jjgold, forget about playing into 1 book, especially a -110 book... you will get murdered.. if you're going to play at one book, just play with matchy.. trust me... you don't even have to make any offers.. there is always plenty to go around. you can't beat the -146/+145 and only pay 1% commision. jj, if you do this, you will save so much money in a given yr, you will be ahead thousands in gambling just by saving this money over the long haul. why throw away money for nothing by playing at a -110 book.?Comment -
beating a -110 book isn't that hard. win alittle over 52% of your games and you make money. of course you can't beat them if you got 20 plays a night. just bet a few games a night and you should be good.Comment -
wile out, you tell him.. good job.. those 4 books are the only 4 books i have used in the last 1.5 yrs. no need for any other books, because because 98.6% of the time, these 4 books you mentioned has a better # than all the other 29 books combined.
dodif,
tell us how you really feel?
buddybear,
so tell me where, big shot?Comment -
if u bet -110 in the long run u only have to win 52% to break even. -110 is beatable u guys are wrong.Comment -
and treece if u bet 20 games that have expectation to win 55% or more you should bet it.Comment -
problem with sbr posters is if they bet 20 games and all games have an edge but tyhey lose people like imgv4 chase instead of coming back the next day.Comment -
patty boy, just think of this young man..
if you win 53% at a -110 book, yeah, sure you win, but at 1 dime a game, you win a total of 1,130 dollars...
however,
if you win 53% at matchy, (getting +103 instead) you win 7,590 dollars.
so patty boy, would you rather win 1130 bucks OR 7590 bucks.
it all adds up patty boy..Comment -
All the other 29 books???? For one thing, there are hundreds of different sportsbooks out there.
Second, rarely will you ever find the best number at pinnacle, mb, greek, wsex. I don't think I am saying anything controversial. You may be able to get down bigger bets or you may experience quicker payouts from those books, but the majority of the time you won't find the best number at those 4 books.Comment -
patty boy, if you win 52% at -110, you lose 800 dollars.
if you win 52% at matchy at (+103) you win 5560..
so now tell me we are wrong.. why lay -110 when you can afford to not have to win 52% and win 50% and still make money by not betting at a -110 store and betting at matchy..Comment -
not winning on -110 books in the long run??
i guess dat only applies to people who picks losers most of the time. i bet exclusive -110 and i have no problem with it. i rake the juice back anyways!
pardon me. never mind what i said. my noobie gambling mind was just aching here! continue on fellas.
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The point is not to bet -5 -110 when pinny or matchbook have -5 -105.
It's to find that stray book that has -4.5 -110.
Pinnacle is the sharpest bookmaking operation around -- beating their numbers is very difficult even with the reduced vig. (most of the time matchbooks market makers are simply copying pinnacles lines -- yes you can often get a better number on at least one side of a game -- depending on the market) Greek, WSEX, Bookmaker are all generally sitting on the same #'s. This is where playing at B/C rated books can be worthwhile.Comment -
buddybear, you keep coming back to the same thing and keep saying, rarely you will see the best # at matchy and find a better number at many other books..
so here is the question again...
name me one book that has better numbers than matchy? i am still waiting.. you seem to know..so lets hear it.. i am waiting..Comment -
oh grammar check on a sports forum. I have a law degree, my dayz of re reading everything I write is over! Sucks when you cant hang with me on gambling so u have to resort to this. what a mexican't. I can spell grammer with an E and always be a better gambler than you. You have no point *******.Comment -
mundy,
if you say you are having no problem winning at -110, just think how much you'd win if you were laying nothing, or getting +106 instead of laying -110?
if you won 34k last year, i assure you that if you played all your games at matchy and some -110 books, you would be up probably 84k.. so why play only at -110 books when you can make way way more on your dollar by laying less juice.. you're throwing money away.. you throw about 50k a yr in profits and if you are a big bettor, then probably way way more than 50k a yr.Comment
