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  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #1
    As usual, its better to be lucky than good...
    Cinci scores zero earned runs and wins.

    what a waste of time handicapping can be.

  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    White Sox game was painful to watch. Their 8 and 9 slots get on 2nd and 3rd, No Outs, top of lineup goes down in order..

    Their pitcher gives up 1 run all game and they lose 1-0, to make it even worse, they started the top of the 9th with an out, 3 consecutive walks to load the bases, and a .179 hitter grounds into a double play and it's ballgame over.
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    • mofome
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-19-07
      • 13003

      #3
      Originally posted by crazyl
      White Sox game was painful to watch. Their 8 and 9 slots get on 2nd and 3rd, No Outs, top of lineup goes down in order..

      Their pitcher gives up 1 run all game and they lose 1-0, to make it even worse, they started the top of the 9th with an out, 3 consecutive walks to load the bases, and a .179 hitter grounds into a double play and it's ballgame over.

      the cubs did almost the same thing. bases loaded, 1 out, and fontenot tried to score from 3rd, for no reason, and hes out. the next guy walks so instead of being down 5-4 with 1 out, bases loaded and d lee up...well...

      better to be lucky.
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      • guitarjosh
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-25-07
        • 5809

        #4
        Or just observant. Check your myspace inbox
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        • mofome
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-19-07
          • 13003

          #5
          it seems most think fontenot was actually safe on that play. i was at the gym following on the phone.


          wow

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          • mofome
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-19-07
            • 13003

            #6
            ah, i just read that cinci actually did score Zero earned runs for the win.


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            • NEP Dynasty
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-17-06
              • 858

              #7
              He should have never tried it anyways. Terrible baseball play
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              • mofome
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-19-07
                • 13003

                #8
                Originally posted by NEP Dynasty
                He should have never tried it anyways. Terrible baseball play





                how many people have ever lost a game 0-3 though?

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                • pico
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                  • 04-05-07
                  • 27321

                  #9
                  luck is part of baseball. you need to improve your mlb capping skills, son.
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                  • 2Pac
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-12-07
                    • 1474

                    #10
                    The 0ER stat was almost meaningless in this game. Dempster was awful.
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                    • mofome
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-19-07
                      • 13003

                      #11
                      Originally posted by picoman
                      luck is part of baseball. you need to improve your mlb capping skills, son.

                      don't be ridiculous, hooligan.

                      a team scored 0 earned against me. capping doesnt get much better than that.

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                      • mofome
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-19-07
                        • 13003

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 2Pac
                        The 0ER stat was almost meaningless in this game. Dempster was awful.


                        not factually. 4H, 7K 0 ER. 2 of those hits were infield hits. i'd say you're bright, but lying isn't my thing.


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                        • pico
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                          • 04-05-07
                          • 27321

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mofome
                          don't be ridiculous, hooligan.

                          a team scored 0 earned against me. capping doesnt get much better than that.

                          you can use that as an excuse if it make you feel that you're taking the right side. why did you cap that shitty game anyways.
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                          • pat venditto
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 05-07-07
                            • 14347

                            #14
                            thats one game sir. long term winning is the bottom line. be on the right side every day and you wil win
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                            • 2Pac
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-12-07
                              • 1474

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mofome
                              not factually. 4H, 7K 0 ER. 2 of those hits were infield hits. i'd say you're bright, but lying isn't my thing.


                              Don't bet on the Cubs. Theyre ******s
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                              • mofome
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-19-07
                                • 13003

                                #16
                                Originally posted by picoman
                                you can use that as an excuse if it make you feel that you're taking the right side. why did you cap that shitty game anyways.


                                excuse? whats the excuse? there were zero earned runs against the cubs today, thats a fact ma'am.

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                                • mofome
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-19-07
                                  • 13003

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 2Pac
                                  Don't bet on the Cubs. Theyre ******s

                                  now thats advice worth listening to. the cubs are junk.



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                                  • mofome
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-19-07
                                    • 13003

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pat venditto
                                    thats one game sir. long term winning is the bottom line. be on the right side every day and you wil win


                                    yeah i know. it just blows. losing is awful already, losing on errors is much worse.

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                                    • ChuteBoxe
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-21-07
                                      • 6885

                                      #19
                                      Nothing is worse than the NBA Playoffs so far. No point in capping. Just take the home favorite and you'll win. Why I refuse to do that, who the fuck knows. I guess I like pissing money away.
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                                      • pico
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                                        • 04-05-07
                                        • 27321

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mofome
                                        excuse? whats the excuse? there were zero earned runs against the cubs today, thats a fact ma'am.

                                        a win is a win. losers whine.
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                                        • mofome
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                                          • 12-19-07
                                          • 13003

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by picoman
                                          a win is a win. losers whine.

                                          well ive got a winning record in baseball and i wnt 2-0 tonight in the nba posted in the think tank. my one loss was bad luck, simple as that. lets keep in mind, i didn't ask you any questions, kido.

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                                          • mofome
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-19-07
                                            • 13003

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ChuteBoxe
                                            Nothing is worse than the NBA Playoffs so far. No point in capping. Just take the home favorite and you'll win. Why I refuse to do that, who the fuck knows. I guess I like pissing money away.

                                            game 2 overs are 7-2-1 for me this year. 11-4 last season.


                                            we'll hammer some bases tomorrow and make up whatever damage the NBA has done to my bud Chute.

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                                            • pico
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                                              • 04-05-07
                                              • 27321

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by mofome
                                              well ive got a winning record in baseball and i wnt 2-0 tonight in the nba posted in the think tank. my one loss was bad luck, simple as that. lets keep in mind, i didn't ask you any questions, kido.

                                              stick to b-ball kido
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                                              • mofome
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-19-07
                                                • 13003

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by picoman
                                                stick to b-ball kido


                                                why? 4-1 on the front page in bases. is 80% good or bad? i can't figure it out, maybe we could discuss in the think tank?

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                                                • pico
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                                                  • 04-05-07
                                                  • 27321

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mofome
                                                  why? 4-1 on the front page in bases. is 80% good or bad? i can't figure it out, maybe we could discuss in the think tank?

                                                  2-0 = 100% win

                                                  0-1 = 0 % win

                                                  your bb capping skills is infinity% better than your mlb capping skills kido.
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                                                  • mofome
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-19-07
                                                    • 13003

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by picoman
                                                    2-0 = 100% win

                                                    0-1 = 0 % win

                                                    your bb capping skills is infinity% better than your mlb capping skills kido.


                                                    each are excellent on the season, it's hard to choose just one. im guessing you've never run into such problems. I envy your lack of talent, cupcake.

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                                                    • Panic
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-06-08
                                                      • 10367

                                                      #27
                                                      For me tonight, yes, it was definately better to be lucky than good.
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                                                      • ChuteBoxe
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-21-07
                                                        • 6885

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by mofome
                                                        game 2 overs are 7-2-1 for me this year. 11-4 last season.


                                                        we'll hammer some bases tomorrow and make up whatever damage the NBA has done to my bud Chute.



                                                        I forgot about your game 2 system. Good deal.
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                                                        • mofome
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-19-07
                                                          • 13003

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Panic
                                                          For me tonight, yes, it was definately better to be lucky than good.

                                                          what did you have big guy? cinci? all is not lost if Panic wins.

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                                                          • Panic
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-06-08
                                                            • 10367

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mofome
                                                            what did you have big guy? cinci? all is not lost if Panic wins.

                                                            No. Played the Spurs/Hornet game. Had the Over 182 and got extremely lucky. Just saw your thread and it couldn't have been more accurate for describing my night.
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                                                            • mofome
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-19-07
                                                              • 13003

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Panic
                                                              No. Played the Spurs/Hornet game. Had the Over 182 and got extremely lucky. Just saw your thread and it couldn't have been more accurate for describing my night.


                                                              I had the over as well. sa kept missing wide open 3s, but they got some in junk time.

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                                                              • Panic
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-06-08
                                                                • 10367

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by mofome
                                                                I had the over as well. sa kept missing wide open 3s, but they got some in junk time.

                                                                We'll take it.
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                                                                • beetman
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 05-31-06
                                                                  • 220

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Earned runs count as much as other runs, and the concept of "earned runs" is often pretty bogus anyway. With 2 outs, say an error puts the runner on first base and then 6 runs are scored. Had that error not occurred, who's to say that a lot of those runs wouldn't have scored anyway? Pitching from the stretch is more difficult than pitching from a regular windup, but it's not 6 runs tougher. Committing that error costs the team about 0.25 prevented runs in expectation, yet the pitcher is let off the hook for 6 runs.

                                                                  In this instance, the first error cost them about a run in expectation and the second error cost them 0.25 runs. Would you rather have lost your bet 3.75 to 3?
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                                                                  • beetman
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 05-31-06
                                                                    • 220

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Those expectation figures include league average hitters, so with Dunn coming up that second error cost a bit more than .25 runs, but it was still not worth enough that you should have expected the Cubs to win without the errors occurring.
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                                                                    • mofome
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-19-07
                                                                      • 13003

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by beetman
                                                                      Earned runs count as much as other runs, and the concept of "earned runs" is often pretty bogus anyway. With 2 outs, say an error puts the runner on first base and then 6 runs are scored. Had that error not occurred, who's to say that a lot of those runs wouldn't have scored anyway? Pitching from the stretch is more difficult than pitching from a regular windup, but it's not 6 runs tougher. Committing that error costs the team about 0.25 prevented runs in expectation, yet the pitcher is let off the hook for 6 runs.

                                                                      In this instance, the first error cost them about a run in expectation and the second error cost them 0.25 runs. Would you rather have lost your bet 3.75 to 3?

                                                                      Well, dear, the thing is the errors actually cost them 5 runs. The 2nd error was followed by a HR, but they should have been out of the inning. its different to pitch out of a wind up, its different to know there are runners on, and its different mentally to have to get 4 outs in an inning. simply put, cinci scored 0 earned runs and anyone who won on them was the prodcut of good luck and i congratulate them.

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