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  • MJFtheGenius
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-31-07
    • 7257

    #1
    Kobe is so good it's unfair
    It's unfair

    no doubt

    best player in the NBA
  • Tsoprano
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-14-08
    • 26374

    #2
    Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
    It's unfair

    no doubt

    best player in the NBA
    yup, and K Martin getting him pissed right now is only gonna make him better.
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    • MJFtheGenius
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-31-07
      • 7257

      #3
      Just what I was thinking

      and I am scared because I am on Denver
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      • MadCapper
        SBR MVP
        • 01-27-08
        • 4179

        #4
        yet a few people still feel kobe is not the best player in the nba.

        haterz.
        My Blog: http://madcapper.mysbrforum.com/
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        • daggerkobe
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-25-08
          • 10744

          #5
          He reminds me everytime I bet against them.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            Duncan is on same level or higher

            Lakers are strong now because of PAUL GASOL
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            • Nicky Santoro
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-08-08
              • 16103

              #7
              yeah, but i bet you everyone would have hated him today had that final 3 pt shot of the game would have gone in, or for some people, even a easy lay up would have cost them the game...


              did you know that kobe had a chance to ice it at the free throw line and missed both.. that almost cost the game for LAL bettors.. he sucked at the line last night, big time.. but he still is the best player in the NBA..


              i'm surprised no one talked about Kobe almost costing the game at the end by missing both free throws..
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              • MadCapper
                SBR MVP
                • 01-27-08
                • 4179

                #8
                lol kobe didnt almost cost the lakers the game.

                cmon
                My Blog: http://madcapper.mysbrforum.com/
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                • Nicky Santoro
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-08-08
                  • 16103

                  #9
                  maddy,

                  he missed both free throws with 7 secs to go. all DENNY had to do was go in for the easy lay up and LAL bettors lose... but they shot the long 3 and had that gone in, all LAL bettors would have lost and KOBE would have cost them the bet for missing both FT's..


                  alot of people had LAL -4 pick.. i had LAL -4.5 +110.. so i would have lost had they walked in for the layup..
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                  • daggerkobe
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-25-08
                    • 10744

                    #10
                    Coulda woulda shoulda.... if my aunt had a sack she'd be my uncle!

                    Kobe was the reason they won and covered that game. Lakers had no business covering that game. Denver should've won or at least covered had it not been for Kobe's clutch shots, steals and blocks in the final minutes.

                    Every damn game has final moments where a play here and there could've changed the outcome of the spread winner.

                    Yeah, he missed a few FTs, so what? He stole the ball and blocked the final shot to seal the win & cover. So stop whining.
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                    • Nicky Santoro
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-08-08
                      • 16103

                      #11
                      i am not whining.. i even said kobe is the best player. all i am saying is that had the LAL let denny walk in for the easy lay in, i bet you would have seen 3 threads last night say.. " f-ck you kobe" or " i hate you kobe" for missing both FT's to cost them their bet..


                      there would have been a lot of angry posters at kobe today, because all he had to do was get 1 FT, and he missed both. PLUS, he missed about 10 FT's yesterday..
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                      • daggerkobe
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-25-08
                        • 10744

                        #12
                        Wow, talk about being ungrateful. The guy single-handedly gave the Laker backers a gift win and they are whining about what coulda happened not what actually happened.

                        Kobe coulda let them take the final "meaningless shot" but didn't. He continued playing defense until the final whistle.

                        Again, stop whining about what coulda shoulda woulda happened and enjoy what actually happened.
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                        • MJFtheGenius
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-31-07
                          • 7257

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Duncan is on same level or higher

                          Lakers are strong now because of PAUL GASOL
                          Gold your a fukin moron

                          Lakers were this good before Gasol

                          anyone who understands the game and has watched them knows it all starts with Kobe
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                          • MJFtheGenius
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 05-31-07
                            • 7257

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MadCapper
                            lol kobe didnt almost cost the lakers the game.

                            cmon
                            did he???

                            or did he just lead them to a sweep???
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                            • pokernut9999
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-25-07
                              • 12757

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                              Gold your a fukin moron

                              Lakers were this good before Gasol

                              anyone who understands the game and has watched them knows it all starts with Kobe
                              Name their playoff series wins in 2005,2006, and 2007.
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                              • MJFtheGenius
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-31-07
                                • 7257

                                #16
                                the role players were not as good at that time
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                                • daggerkobe
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-25-08
                                  • 10744

                                  #17
                                  Kobe led Kwame Brown to the playoffs, something not even Jordan could do.

                                  And Kobe had the series sealed vs. Suns in 2006 when he swished back to back to back clutch shots in the final seconds of game 6 only to lose because Odom is a friggin idiot.
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                                  • MJFtheGenius
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-31-07
                                    • 7257

                                    #18
                                    who has more help surrounding him

                                    Kobe or Duncan??

                                    Duncan has an elite point guard
                                    6th man of the year and alot of people say Gnobli is a top 10 player in the league

                                    lots of veteren players that make big shots

                                    better coach

                                    best defense in the league
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                                    • daggerkobe
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-25-08
                                      • 10744

                                      #19
                                      Every great player needs a great sidekick.

                                      Look at Jordan without Pippen.... never could get out of the 1st rd and missed the playoffs entirely couple of seasons.

                                      Kobe without Shaq has accomplished far more than Jordan without Pippen.
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                                      • Shark79
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-19-07
                                        • 11211

                                        #20
                                        Duncan doesnt rape

                                        JK
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                                        • Bill Dozer
                                          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                          • 07-12-05
                                          • 10894

                                          #21
                                          Lakers have the perfect roster for the tri offense. The Spurs probably match up the best but LA is the favorite the rest of the way.
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                                          • Nicky Santoro
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-08-08
                                            • 16103

                                            #22
                                            If LAL meet SA for the conference final..

                                            the line for the series will be..


                                            LAL -200
                                            SA +185



                                            that real line should be LA -155/+145... but the real reason it will be -200 is because books know that everyone and their uncle will bet LAL.. so make sure you grab the +185, because that's value..
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                                            • daggerkobe
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-25-08
                                              • 10744

                                              #23
                                              No way SA will open at +185.

                                              More like +125.
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                                              • Nicky Santoro
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 04-08-08
                                                • 16103

                                                #24
                                                dagger,

                                                watch and see my friend, lakers will open up at -200, if not higher.... you can take that to the bank..
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                                                • pokernut9999
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-25-07
                                                  • 12757

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                  Every great player needs a great sidekick.

                                                  Look at Jordan without Pippen.... never could get out of the 1st rd and missed the playoffs entirely couple of seasons.

                                                  Kobe without Shaq has accomplished far more than Jordan without Pippen.
                                                  Like what ?
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                                                  • daggerkobe
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-25-08
                                                    • 10744

                                                    #26
                                                    Winning the division?
                                                    Making it out of the 1st rd?
                                                    Winning 54% of his games compared to 43% for Jordan?
                                                    Most likely the MVP? (Jordan never won an MVP w/o Pippen)
                                                    Most likely a championship? (Jordan never won a title w/o Pippen)
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                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                      • 12757

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                      Winning the division?
                                                      Making it out of the 1st rd?
                                                      Winning 54% of his games compared to 43% for Jordan?
                                                      Most likely the MVP? (Jordan never won an MVP w/o Pippen)
                                                      Most likely a championship? (Jordan never won a title w/o Pippen)

                                                      He has less championships w/o Shaq then Shaq w/o Kobe

                                                      They beat the Nuggets , worst D in the NBA


                                                      He has a long way to go yet.
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                                                      • daggerkobe
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-25-08
                                                        • 10744

                                                        #28
                                                        I wasn't comparing Kobe vs. Shaq. Shaq had a little help from a future hall of famer named Wade, who was the finals MVP btw. You won't find a hall of famer on Kobe's squad.

                                                        Long ways to go? He's already surpassed Jordan minus Pippen.
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                                                        • MJFtheGenius
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-31-07
                                                          • 7257

                                                          #29
                                                          no one will ever surpass jordan

                                                          he is a legend

                                                          but Kobe is the runnerup
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                                                          • The_Kid
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-09-08
                                                            • 5049

                                                            #30
                                                            If Kobe doesn't win MVP this year, there must be a conspiracy against the guy.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              Lakers a 500 team without Gasol

                                                              End of discussion
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                                                              • daggerkobe
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-25-08
                                                                • 10744

                                                                #32
                                                                Lakers were 30-16 (65%) when Gasol played his first game for them.
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                                                                • Nicky Santoro
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-08-08
                                                                  • 16103

                                                                  #33
                                                                  jjgold is right again, and i have the stats to prove it, so don't say i am kissing his ass, just let the stats do the talking..

                                                                  lakers are 61-25 this year, including playoffs.


                                                                  with Paul Gasol in the lineup, lakers are 26-5, including playoffs.


                                                                  so basically,

                                                                  lakers without gasol, 35-20 (.636)
                                                                  lakers with gasol 26-5 (.839)


                                                                  good call, jj.
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