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  • SSLP
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-29-08
    • 5232

    #141
    I have heard the rumor is that to get a BIG credit line you must earn quite a bit a year or pay several times they usually give you a % of your income
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    • BIGBLACKDOG
      SBR Sharp
      • 08-17-07
      • 389

      #142
      Originally posted by picoman
      blackdog...what is your biggest credit account? don't tell me it is jj's 25k account.

      in blackdog its 5000, in the other business leave it up to your imagination
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      • SSLP
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-29-08
        • 5232

        #143
        Originally posted by Mattn3236
        The juice isn't going to kill you losers if you have any skill.
        Damn people if you hate that -110 so much then dont gamble or dont take bonuses
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        • pico
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 04-05-07
          • 27321

          #144
          Originally posted by BIGBLACKDOG
          in blackdog its 5000, in the other business leave it up to your imagination
          jj got a 25k account. how did that happen?
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          • BIGBLACKDOG
            SBR Sharp
            • 08-17-07
            • 389

            #145
            1 percent of annual income

            Originally posted by SSLP
            I have heard the rumor is that to get a BIG credit line you must earn quite a bit a year or pay several times they usually give you a % of your income
            initial credit is based on one percent of verifiable annual income, we give credit increases over time, just like a credit card
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            • SSLP
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-29-08
              • 5232

              #146
              Originally posted by BIGBLACKDOG
              in blackdog its 5000, in the other business leave it up to your imagination
              I know of many shops that give $200k lines and $25 k per game limits
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              • SSLP
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-29-08
                • 5232

                #147
                but blackdog is cool for me , too bad I dont do credit I would do something there
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                • Mattn3236
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 04-21-08
                  • 841

                  #148
                  Big Time joke. -105/-110. He's crying about a couple hundred dollars if that makes or breaks his week he should become a waiter.
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                  • BIGBLACKDOG
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 08-17-07
                    • 389

                    #149
                    so do i

                    Originally posted by SSLP
                    I know of many shops that give $200k lines and $25 k per game limits
                    so do i but thats not what blackdogs about, we want to servicw the recreational gambler, 50 to 500 a game better
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                    • SSLP
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-29-08
                      • 5232

                      #150
                      Originally posted by BIGBLACKDOG
                      initial credit is based on one percent of verifiable annual income, we give credit increases over time, just like a credit card
                      I know for A FACT it cant be that small I will bet you its 5% to 13% on the W2
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                      • pokernut9999
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-25-07
                        • 12757

                        #151
                        I have played there exactly 1 month today and have not won yet. But as far as customer service and other perks I can honestly say they are not like any other on-line book I have ever played with. People are super nice and call you by name not number.

                        Did get my credit line reduced by $1 today, dont know whats up with that.

                        I look forward to seeing their new site next week.
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                        • BIGBLACKDOG
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 08-17-07
                          • 389

                          #152
                          1 percent of annual income

                          Originally posted by SSLP
                          I know for A FACT it cant be that small I will bet you its 5% to 13% on the W2
                          1 percent to start no exceptions, were looking for players that make between 50 and 150k want to bet between 50 an 500 a game and want to bet for fun. all of our members could post up but why should they, its no different then getting a marker in vegas. we just cut down the transaction by having settle numbers and monthly close outs. less of a paper trail
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                          • Mattn3236
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 04-21-08
                            • 841

                            #153
                            I'm a big player but the convience of not having to post-up is what I like. Can't wait to try new site May 5
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                            • SSLP
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-29-08
                              • 5232

                              #154
                              Originally posted by BIGBLACKDOG
                              1 percent to start no exceptions, were looking for players that make between 50 and 150k want to bet between 50 an 500 a game and want to bet for fun. all of our members could post up but why should they, its no different then getting a marker in vegas. we just cut down the transaction by having settle numbers and monthly close outs. less of a paper trail
                              ok i wont debate I do know more about Blackdog than you think but I am a gent and I know you payout people and thats about it for me.

                              People you need to realize that almost 90% of offshore credit books are scams.

                              SO like I said before If I would bet on credit I would use these guys and a couple more but I dont , I like to post up its just the way I am , if you dont have the money in your pocket you cant afford it .. thats just the way I go about it
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                              • Cannon
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-03-08
                                • 3329

                                #155
                                I would like to see how you guys plan to settle with local agents picking up money from players in the US. I know some guys who used to do that in Texas and they got federal time out of pretending they were running an offshore and they were operating in the US. Fun times are ahead for you guys picking up money locally from players.
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                                • pokernut9999
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-25-07
                                  • 12757

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by Cannon
                                  I had 2 partners and we made great money. Most guys would be broke by November in football. We would usually have 40 players left by Dec 1 st. I would say out of 100 players 5 made decent money 10 broke about even and 85 lost their shirts laying -110.
                                  I would have quit too if I was making that much money.
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                                  • SSLP
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-29-08
                                    • 5232

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by Cannon
                                    I would like to see how you guys plan to settle with local agents picking up money from players in the US. I know some guys who used to do that in Texas and they got federal time out of pretending they were running an offshore and they were operating in the US. Fun times are ahead for you guys picking up money locally from players.
                                    Easy .. you dont , if your a good bookmaker you know how to handle the ups and downs .

                                    Leg breaking days are over ... if a guy dont pay .. **** him. You dont put yourself in the radar for $1000 ..let it slide ..

                                    Theres a sucker born every minute they say and most of them are gamblers
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                                    • BIGBLACKDOG
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 08-17-07
                                      • 389

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by SSLP
                                      ok i wont debate I do know more about Blackdog than you think but I am a gent and I know you payout people and thats about it for me.

                                      People you need to realize that almost 90% of offshore credit books are scams.

                                      SO like I said before If I would bet on credit I would use these guys and a couple more but I dont , I like to post up its just the way I am , if you dont have the money in your pocket you cant afford it .. thats just the way I go about it
                                      thanks,
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                                      • crshin2me
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 04-03-08
                                        • 75

                                        #159
                                        I got a question since I mainly only bet 25 a game is that hindering me from getting of probation and keep playing with you guys.
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                                        • Cannon
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-03-08
                                          • 3329

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by SSLP
                                          ok i wont debate I do know more about Blackdog than you think but I am a gent and I know you payout people and thats about it for me.

                                          People you need to realize that almost 90% of offshore credit books are scams.

                                          SO like I said before If I would bet on credit I would use these guys and a couple more but I dont , I like to post up its just the way I am , if you dont have the money in your pocket you cant afford it .. thats just the way I go about it

                                          Finally a guy who is a smart gambler.
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                                          • durito
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-03-06
                                            • 13173

                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by BIGBLACKDOG
                                            you lay off for one of two reasons you dont have the balls or you dont have the bank, which was yours
                                            or you understand how to competently manage risk
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                                            • BIGBLACKDOG
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 08-17-07
                                              • 389

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by crshin2me
                                              I got a question since I mainly only bet 25 a game is that hindering me from getting of probation and keep playing with you guys.
                                              you can bet 5 dollars a game, bet what ever you want as long as you pay you can play and well do the same
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                                              • SSLP
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-29-08
                                                • 5232

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by durito
                                                or you understand how to competently manage risk

                                                I agree and disagree .

                                                At some point you must take the risk , specially in a small OP
                                                of 100 players or less.

                                                If you keep passing action on then you arent really in the game.

                                                Risk managment is very important I agree 110% BUT if you are an OP with 85% losers and with proven stats why would I pass on $3000 IF i know 85% of the action is harmless

                                                I passed action on when the action went over 80-20 on a game then it was a no win window.

                                                The amount wasnt a problem its the amount of volume on a game and to which side its going
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                                                • BIGBLACKDOG
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 08-17-07
                                                  • 389

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by durito
                                                  or you understand how to competently manage risk
                                                  he said he had a business with 85 percent losers, where is the risk
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                                                  • SSLP
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-29-08
                                                    • 5232

                                                    #165
                                                    Not bad , but I might just be wrong here and correct me if I am.

                                                    You dont pass on action and spread it all over the US for $10k.. IF SO your in over your head and way over your pocket.

                                                    NO DISRESPECT intended
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                                                    • Cannon
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 01-03-08
                                                      • 3329

                                                      #166
                                                      Thes Blackdog guys have little or no bankroll. I would say $25,000 max. After they get stiffed for about 40% of their money and they will they will have trouble making it to football.
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                                                      • durito
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-03-06
                                                        • 13173

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by BIGBLACKDOG
                                                        he said he had a business with 85 percent losers, where is the risk
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                                                        • Cannon
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 01-03-08
                                                          • 3329

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by BIGBLACKDOG
                                                          he said he had a business with 85 percent losers, where is the risk
                                                          I said 85% of people lose for the season not one week. On this site I would say it is 95%. I had 3 guys that used to win big from us. I would pass their stuff off and put some for us. I knew a guy that hit 72% in NCAA baskets for a season on about 800-1000 plays. I have never seen anything close to that since.
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                                                          • pokernut9999
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-25-07
                                                            • 12757

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by Cannon
                                                            Thes Blackdog guys have little or no bankroll. I would say $25,000 max. After they get stiffed for about 40% of their money and they will they will have trouble making it to football.
                                                            They already been thru football last year.
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                                                            • SSLP
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-29-08
                                                              • 5232

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by Cannon
                                                              Thes Blackdog guys have little or no bankroll. I would say $25,000 max. After they get stiffed for about 40% of their money and they will they will have trouble making it to football.

                                                              I have been around for a while .. and in the industry offshore.

                                                              I know who BLACKDOG is , their backing , their bankroll.

                                                              And I aint no ****in shill but they are good for a $100k payout if you wanted to.
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                                                              • BIGBLACKDOG
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 08-17-07
                                                                • 389

                                                                #171
                                                                been here all year

                                                                Originally posted by Cannon
                                                                Thes Blackdog guys have little or no bankroll. I would say $25,000 max. After they get stiffed for about 40% of their money and they will they will have trouble making it to football.
                                                                we have been paying people all year, been here all football and basketball, i spent more on our new call center in CR then youll make this year, just because you wanted to be a bookmaker but couldnt handle the heat dont hate
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                                                                • SSLP
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 02-29-08
                                                                  • 5232

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Blackdog are u still in that plaza?
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                                                                  • BIGBLACKDOG
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 08-17-07
                                                                    • 389

                                                                    #173
                                                                    yep
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                                                                    • SSLP
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-29-08
                                                                      • 5232

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Hey Blackdog if you wanna lay off action Ill take it .. you know..

                                                                      I will try and get like half point off.. but what do we do if the line moves??

                                                                      Do we then try and buy more points??

                                                                      WAIT

                                                                      85% are losers?
                                                                      Does that mean we lay off 85% of the action.
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                                                                      • Cannon
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 01-03-08
                                                                        • 3329

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Blackdog just curious when these guys burn you for a dime then they get an account under their friends name and they siff you how you going to collect a gambling debt. No way you can put a penny on anyones credit report they can have it removed. I know for a fact you can not call and hit them up for the money on the phone and you can't put any local heat on them either. So you are going to hope people will pay you which they will perhaps 3 or 4 times till they are broke and they refuse to pay anymore. This business model you have has no future at this level with the income form the people you are trying to sign up. The disposable income of these people is limited and unless you are able to eat 50% of the losses in bad debt which in a low overhead situation you might be able to do you would know that better than me. I would guess you would have to payout about 10%-15% of your income in winners over the long haul so perhaps you can make it only collecting 50% of the debt.
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