Royal Flushes/SBR

[xkgb]

Guys, just wondering.....seriously. Does anyone know how many Royal Flushes had hit on SBR poker the last month or so, can someone look it up? cAN I SAFELY SAY AT LEAST 5, RIGHT? (i swear i counted more then that even)...considering we only have a few tables and games going, and the true odds of getting a ROYAL FLUSH is 649,739 : 1 hands dealt

the odds of then hitting 5 Royal Flushes in a month, not only astronomically exceed the true probability, but considering how many ppl we have playing at the tables( whether or not its turbo fast....and ive seen faster flops/deals) is almost mathematically IMPOSSIBLE IN THE REAL WORLD

I'm always stumbling on people on this forum who's telling me the game is not rigged/juiced, BUT HOW CAN IT NOT BE?!!!! I've been called anything and everything when i bring it up, especially by the ppl who run this site or have close ties to it...They telling me im crazy, i dont know wat im saying ,I'm an idiot, where is my proof, etc...They telling me the game CANNOT be juiced or rigged, but the numbers speak for themselves. They tell me: "look at other poker sites, its all the same everywhere" NOT TRUE. Ive heard stories of the rates of bad beats here toping THE COMBINED NUMBERS OF BAD BEATS AT HUGE online poker communities with millions of players playing daily on hundreds if not thousands of tables...Some sites pay HUGE jackpots for those bad beats, some offer nice bonuses for hitting Royal Flushes as well, but nothing of this magnitude here. The odds of getting a juiced hand or a bad beat here GREATLY EXCEEDS anythhing i ever encountered in my life

I love poker...I played poker for years. Some real life, some online, almost daily ....For fun i might join in a huge multi thousand ppl freeroll, or hit the cash tables for a quick buck. NEVER IN MY LIFE HAD I EXPERIENCED ANYTHING OF THIS NATURE. And i play on alot of different sites. I do quite well too, averaging in a top 1-5% ALWAYS. especially in a long multitable turneys, were strategy and patience tend to payout more then not. But i cannot play my game like this where besides playing your usual game you have to worry about a bad beat almost every single hand. I've been watching this forum closely now for the past month or so, and seeing this many Royal, straight flushes, unreal flops, constant fear of a bad beat makes SBR poker one of the worst poker sites i ever played on. In fact THE WORST SO FAR, IMO....Sure, for every bad beat there is a winner, but for players that actually like to use their skill, this is a nightmare....

AM I CRAZY? IS THERE ANY TRUTH IN WHAT IM SAYING? I understand the game is free (points only), but for some of us, those points are a chance to make real money and buy real merchandise, so i treat them like cash

How am i to get excited about playing when the game has been so biased of late (whether for purposes of luring more players, helping beginners gain interest in poker , promote SBR or to simply encourage you to become a pro by waiving your entrance fees) I cannot believe some of you dont see this happening, or choose to ignore the subject altogether. Im sure some of you defending the integrity of SBR poker have a personal invested interest on this site. You or your friends might be employees of the SBR... But for everyone else?!! DO YOU FEEL LIKE A GERBIL SPINNING A WHEEL IN ONE PLACE SOMETIMES? Nomatter wat you say, or how much evidence is out there supporting your case u just seeing more and more cronies come at you from all angles?!!

IM NOT CRAZY!!!! THIS SHIT IS RIGGED AND YOU KNOW IT!!!! I'LL NEVER PLAY POKER ON THIS SITE AGAIN!!! AND WOULD WANT TO WARN THOSE WHO STILL HAVENT TRIED IT TO TREAD LIGHTLY

[FourLengthsClear]

There have been 7 or 8 and you are right, that is (to put it mildly) statistically improbable.

[VegasInsider]

I think FLC is right, it's been 7 or 8.

I don't see what the big deal is. If you're a PRO, it's free to play so everything is just gravy. If your concern is the 15 points it costs to get in (roughly $1.25) then I would understand that you don't want to waste your points. If anything, SBR is trying to give away more points and more free stuff...keep people playing ring games and staying interested.

[FourLengthsClear]

It is certainly not a concern for me whether the software is 100% straight or not, I look at the points as being free.

Just for sh!ts and giggles though, I will work out the probability when the monthly championships are done.

[VegasVixen]

All I know is everytime I sit in a game I'm told I "just missed it"

[SBR_John]

It has been about what we expected. A Royal happens about 1 in 30,000 hands and thats about what we have seen. I'll be glad when February is over though..

[xkgb]

I think FLC is right, it's been 7 or 8. I don't see what the big deal is. If you're a PRO, it's free to play so everything is just gravy. If your concern is the 15 points it costs to get in (roughly $1.25) then I would understand that you don't want to waste your points. If anything, SBR is trying to give away more points and more free stuff...keep people playing ring games and staying interested.

i absolutely agree with you on that...it is not worth it for me, but makes all the sense in the world for a pro....right on.....but SBR just will never admit its rigged...oh well, i only wanted to warn those whos anaware

[King Mayan]

I wish I could play............damn Mac...

[lemart5]

Make your free throws

[xkgb]

All I know is everytime I sit in a game I'm told I "just missed it"

YEAH, AND SBR CRONIES, AND "CLOSE FAMILY"
SEEM TO GET IT TOO HUH...LOL

It has been about what we expected. A Royal happens about 1 in 30,000 hands and thats about what we have seen. I'll be glad when February is over though..

huh? it should be 1:650, 000...thats only for one....7-8 in a month? do you want me to calculate the probability on that? not the odds john, THE REAL WORLD PROBABILITY....im sure SBR probability is once or twice a week...i can see that for myself, lol

[xkgb]

It is certainly not a concern for me whether the software is 100% straight or not, I look at the points as being free. Just for sh!ts and giggles though, I will work out the probability when the monthly championships are done.

i will definetly wait for you to that, of course im going to do my own calculations, i was a math major back in school, only 20 years ago lol

[Money]

id lvoe to hit a royal

[SBR_John]

i will definetly wait for you to that, of course im going to do my own calculations, i was a math major back in school, only 20 years ago lol

I'm not a math major but I was told to expect a royal every 30,600 hands and so far its right on schedule. No idea where you got your number. When we started we had 3 tourneys a day and soon went to 5. Its a fun promo.

[xkgb]

I'm not a math major but I was told to expect a royal every 30,600 hands and so far its right on schedule. No idea where you got your number. When we started we had 3 tourneys a day and soon went to 5. Its a fun promo.

yeah john.....the true odds are all over the internet...easy to find...just google "tru odds royal flush" viola!!! of course u can do it too, just need number of cards, suits in a deck, number of suits....and you can do it too, but yes u right, the probability of the royal flush cannot be calculated this simple, we need to wait for all the hands to complete to see how many royals we gping to get. the aproximation is exact, and in 7 hand poker it is one in 30, or so thousand, but just because it is one in 30, 000, even if flipping a head on a coin 1in 2, the probability of fliping 8 heads are not though, so every time you deal a hand its one in 30, 000 times number of hands dealt, and thats the probability of hitting it a multiple times, whicjh is huge since we got 7 or 8 royals hit

[FourLengthsClear]

i will definetly wait for you to that, of course im going to do my own calculations, i was a math major back in school, only 20 years ago lol

NP, I will certainly do it.

In terms of the probability of a single hand producing a royal and the discrepancy between your figure and SBRJohns, you are both right (and wrong).

1 in 649,740 is correct on the basis of a single hand (five community cards).

1 in 30,939 is correct ten-handed, when 0, 1 or 2 hole cards need to form part of the RF, and where every hand is played to the river/showdown.

[hhsilver]

xkgb , I think the figure you give is for a five card hand. I just looked it up as you suggested and got this:

Royal Flush (4 possible hands in 2,598,960 )

which looks to about what you said BUT it also says :

Note: The above is based on five cards-hand out of five and not on the best five cards out of seven. So the actual odds for each hand are better.)

It appears the odds you gave are for a royal flush with five cards not best 5 of 7


edit : oops , while I was writing my post the one above got in. So mine is redundant. At least we agree, though.

[xkgb]

xkgb , I think the figure you give is for a five card hand. I just looked it up as you suggested and got this: Royal Flush (4 possible hands in 2,598,960 ) which looks to about what you said BUT it also says : Note: The above is based on five cards-hand out of five and not on the best five cards out of seven. So the actual odds for each hand are better.) It appears the odds you gave are for a royal flush with five cards not best 5 of 7 edit : oops , while I was writing my post the one above got in. So mine is redundant. At least we agree, though.

yep u right..... only the probability of it happening 8 times in a month among lets say 10 players at a table with only (i dunno?) low number of hands between each dealt royal is a COMPLETELY different calculation lol

[gamemastere]

OMG xkgb is still going on about this. Dude you said yourself you have only played SBR poker 1 or 2 times and here you are going on about something you have not really participated in.

I gave you 15 points to play a tourney. So play and make an attempt to win.

Your going on about probabilities that are incorrect and you don't really know how many hands have been played in both the ring games and satellite tournaments since the Royal Flush promotion began.

[YorkHunt]

who gives a fukk..its fun for the site and it actually makes them more money than you think.

[Killer_Demo]

im still waitin to hit a royal also. hope I can get one before the end of the month

[the_situation]

why are people complaining? they are giving you points for a royal so the more the better.

[JACK MATZ]

Why complain about a site giving out a big royal flush bonus more than it should.
Guess im missing somthing.

[wiffle]

lol, i believe there has been 9. i put the o/u at 8.5 and people thought i was crazy.

lolololololololol at saying it is 1:600k, it is 1~30k. there is also more than one person in the hand which also makes the odds even better.

anybody who is surprised by this probably single tables

[aceking]

when you own a website you can program the software anyway you want .

besides , its just a 1 month promo to get more people into sbr poker .

sbr get more sponsors , we get free points , i don't mind one bit .

[LChruscial85]

definitely like 7 or 8, wish I could have been a seat at one of those tables!

[Herky]

Complaining about free points People are amazing!

[EmpireMaker]

it has to be about 10 by now

[pavyracer]

That's a lot of Royal Flushes but players in these tourneys play bad hands. When you raise someone 4 times the blinds with pocket Aces and he goes all in with an 8 5 off suite this is a hand that wouldn't have been played at a normal casino. So one of the reasons there are more Royal Flushes is because more people play bad hands they should have otherwise folded if it was real money.

[B1GER1C828]

wow xngb is still bitching?

hahahahaha. Age of this clown under 16 -300, over 16 + 240. anytakers?

Its for fun. Its for points. He says hes a "winner" everywhere but can't even become an SBR pro. Ur a joke pal.

[oiler]

dont know how many there has been but ive been at two of the tables and got eliminated a hand or two before it hit,,,i feel like the susan lucci of poker...always close but not close enough

[xkgb]

when you own a website you can program the software anyway you want . Besides , its just a 1 month promo to get more people into sbr poker . Sbr get more sponsors , we get free points , i don't mind one bit .

thank you.....