Reggie Miller or Dennis Rodman? Miller was snubbed by HOF

**ttwarrior1** · 02-23-11, 04:04 PM

agreed and on top of that, rodman never did anything in college. They will take championship players regardless as the old voters are biased. Some people think the bulls would of never won 3 of those championships without rodman

Miller never had much. Main reason they said miller not in is because he never got assists or rebounds and averaged under 20 points for many seasons and only shot 3s

**jjgold** · 02-23-11, 04:33 PM

Rodman was instrumental in every title

A definate game changer

Miller not even in the same league as this guy

**Tree Rollins** · 02-23-11, 04:40 PM

Rodman was one of the greatest defenders and greatest rebounders in the history of the league. To be number number 1 in the entire league in two of the most important aspects of the game, for a large part of your career, is definitely hall of fame caliber stuff.

**Landscaper** · 02-23-11, 04:45 PM

Miller was one of the best big game players their ever was..combine that with one of the great shooters the NBA has ever seen. He belongs in the hall

**big0mar** · 02-23-11, 04:46 PM

Rodman might be top-15 all time player

Best rebounder and best defender of his era

**frostno98** · 02-23-11, 04:49 PM

Rodman has 5 rings right

Two with the Pistons and three with the Bulls. At the end that's all that matter, when it's being combined with him being one of the greatest re-bounders ever.

**cant call it** · 02-23-11, 04:50 PM

rodman slept with half the judges so there's your answer

**mighty maron** · 02-23-11, 04:51 PM

He will be in the hall. He is not a first ballot hall of famer

**Tree Rollins** · 02-23-11, 04:52 PM

There has been a kind of revisionist history with Reggie Miller b/c of the publicity he got from his battles with the Knicks and Bulls. Especially those clutch shots he hit against New York. Career averages of 18 pts 3 assists and 3 rebounds don't really jump off the page.
He only made 5 all-star teams in 18 seasons and never once made an all NBA first-team or second-team. So basically he was never considered one of the top 10 players in the league during his career, and in only 5 of 18 seasons was he even considered a top 12 player in his conference.
He was very one-dimensional. His one dimension was great though, he could shoot like no other, but he was not a good defender, he was an average to below average rebounder, and average to below average passer.

I would like to see him in the hall one day because i like him. Though the guy should be far from a shoo-in.

**mattmc419** · 02-23-11, 04:57 PM

Rodman not a game changer? Really?

He was one of the best rebounders in the history of the game and a great defender. Plus he has titles. He definitely deserves the Hall of Fame honors.

Reggie will get in too, but he could have made it in faster if he would have dunked the ball

Glad he didn't though - best play in NBA history right there!

**rm18** · 02-23-11, 05:08 PM

Miller was a nobody barely better than Kyle Korver

**bleek88** · 02-23-11, 05:12 PM

no doubt in my mind reggie miller was a first ballot Hall of Famer.

**Monitor-Tan** · 02-23-11, 05:53 PM

People don't seem to appreciate what Miller did. Yes the "STATS" don't pop out but, he was what you call an entertainer. I'm not here to compare miller with rodman and blah blah, but there's nobody else in the league i would have in my corner then miller when a clutch 3 is needed, and he was never "Fancy" as he was a "PURE" shooter. But more importantly, Reggie Miller made Indiana. Remember when Indiana drafted reggie miller, they boo'd like there is no tomorrow. But Miller stepped up to be one of the most Clutch shooter and one of the best shooters out there and really put Indiana on the map during his days as a contending team. Then People of Indiana loved him

If you must compare, then ask yourself if Rodman could've done the same if he was in Indiana with a no name team.

Both are Hall of Fame Material, but I do feel Reggie should be in the HOF first ballot.

Just my point of view

**kobstopa** · 02-23-11, 07:56 PM

both deserved Hall of Fame - Rodman should go first & Miller will be soon enough. Since Miller is a broadcaster now its raise his profile a bit but the end of the day who got the ring?

**t-wizzle** · 02-23-11, 07:57 PM

Miller should have been in over Mullen.

**jjgold** · 02-23-11, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by tree rollins

rodman was one of the greatest defenders and greatest rebounders in the history of the league. To be number number 1 in the entire league in two of the most important aspects of the game, for a large part of your career, is definitely hall of fame caliber stuff.

bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**t-wizzle** · 02-23-11, 08:14 PM

Rodman was a great player. It doesn't matter that he couldn't score worth a lick. The nba needs more players (not necessarily people) like Dennis.

**iifold** · 02-23-11, 08:19 PM

Miller better than Rodman

this is a joke, right?

Mullin was better than Miller...

**lolbear** · 02-23-11, 08:29 PM

a lot of these guys don't know reggie miller

**Tree Rollins** · 02-23-11, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Monitor-Tan

People don't seem to appreciate what Miller did. Yes the "STATS" don't pop out but, he was what you call an entertainer. I'm not here to compare miller with rodman and blah blah, but there's nobody else in the league i would have in my corner then miller when a clutch 3 is needed, and he was never "Fancy" as he was a "PURE" shooter. But more importantly, Reggie Miller made Indiana. Remember when Indiana drafted reggie miller, they boo'd like there is no tomorrow. But Miller stepped up to be one of the most Clutch shooter and one of the best shooters out there and really put Indiana on the map during his days as a contending team. Then People of Indiana loved him If you must compare, then ask yourself if Rodman could've done the same if he was in Indiana with a no name team. Both are Hall of Fame Material, but I do feel Reggie should be in the HOF first ballot. Just my point of view

Yeah, there weren't many guys who you'd rather have for a clutch 3 then Miller. You could say the same thing about Robert Horry and Derek Fisher. Do they belong in the hall?

I'm not saying Reggie doesn't belong, but if you think he belongs solely he's clutch and hit 3's, i think that's a flawed argument.

**Robust** · 02-23-11, 08:32 PM

rodman was a mofo.. definite game changer.. with all those rebounds he deserves the hall..

Robust

**Eating Bookies** · 02-23-11, 08:45 PM

Miller doesn't have a ring.

MB · 02-23-11, 09:01 PM

The fact that Reggie was the all time leader in 3-pointers prior to them voting should of put him in first ballot. Nolan Ryan is the all time strikeout leader and he got in MLB's hall first ballot. How many prolific shooters are there in the league today???? Appreciate Reggie

**Tree Rollins** · 02-23-11, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by MB

The fact that Reggie was the all time leader in 3-pointers prior to them voting should of put him in first ballot. Nolan Ryan is the all time strikeout leader and he got in MLB's hall first ballot. How many prolific shooters are there in the league today???? Appreciate Reggie

Not at all. If you're going to put that much weight on all-time 3-point shooting. Then Dale Ellis, Glen Rice, Dan Majerle, Peja etc. all deserve hall of fame consideration. That's a record that has been threatened by average players. Being the all-time leading three point shooter doesn't mean as much as you think.

**tunaguitar76** · 02-23-11, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Not at all. If you're going to put that much weight on all-time 3-point shooting. Then Dale Ellis, Glen Rice, Dan Majerle, Peja etc. all deserve hall of fame consideration. That's a record that has been threatened by average players. Being the all-time leading three point shooter doesn't mean as much as you think.

especially when you consider there wasn't a three point line for years. The whole "All Time" thing as a reason to get into the hall loses clout.

**Cougar Bait** · 02-23-11, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by will2survive

Miller was better than Chris Mullin also.

You do realize Zam is going to find you and hold you down while giving your nuts the Chinese water torture for making this statement, right?

**beach nut** · 02-23-11, 09:38 PM

Rodman definitely deserved to be voted in. Reggie Miller will probably get in eventually.

**Monitor-Tan** · 02-23-11, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Yeah, there weren't many guys who you'd rather have for a clutch 3 then Miller. You could say the same thing about Robert Horry and Derek Fisher. Do they belong in the hall?

I'm not saying Reggie doesn't belong, but if you think he belongs solely he's clutch and hit 3's, i think that's a flawed argument.

What team were they in, and what team was miller in? Hm.. Seems to me, Miller's space to shoot is much smaller then Horry or Fisher

**Monitor-Tan** · 02-23-11, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Eating Bookies

Miller doesn't have a ring.

Marino doesn't have one either and neither did ewing

**Monitor-Tan** · 02-23-11, 09:40 PM

Should darko Milicic go inot the hall of fame since he has a ring?

**Deep_Rest** · 02-23-11, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Not at all. If you're going to put that much weight on all-time 3-point shooting. Then Dale Ellis, Glen Rice, Dan Majerle, Peja etc. all deserve hall of fame consideration. That's a record that has been threatened by average players. Being the all-time leading three point shooter doesn't mean as much as you think.

Please. Reggie has like 800 more 3s than any of those players.

**frostno98** · 02-23-11, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Monitor-Tan

Should darko Milicic go inot the hall of fame since he has a ring?

If you consider him being one of the biggest bust ever in the NBA as a great career accomplishment, then by no means add him

**Tree Rollins** · 02-23-11, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by Deep_Rest

Please. Reggie has like 800 more 3s than any of those players.

Lol. You don't get it.

**ttwarrior1** · 02-23-11, 10:58 PM

rodman couldnt even make a bucket. Chris the bird andersen is almost as good, just doesn't have same fake attitute or herpes.

Rodman played with better teams. Rodman couldn't shoot