Why does SBR Players Talk always attracts the worst handicappers????

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  • crustyme
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-29-10
    • 16896

    #1
    Why does SBR Players Talk always attracts the worst handicappers????
    as if broke landers buring the forum for the past 6 months wasnt enough, every tom dick & harry crappers are finishing off the survivors.

    WTF is going on?

    where have all the good cappers gone?
  • obamaismyuncle
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-31-08
    • 17801

    #2
    Originally posted by crustyme
    as if broke landers buring the forum for the past 6 months wasnt enough, every tom dick & harry crappers are finishing off the survivors.

    WTF is going on?

    where have all the good cappers gone?


    they were once here?
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    • DrStale
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-07-08
      • 9692

      #3
      It attracts some pretty bad grammar too.

      They're probly in the Think Tank.
      Originally posted by Dark Horse
      If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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      • D3 Mighty Ducks
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-17-09
        • 11939

        #4
        all the good cappers are in a place called the "SBR Sub Forums".

        Someone provide me a fuking link to this place it sounds like heaven.
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        • boondoggle
          SBR MVP
          • 09-29-10
          • 3014

          #5
          this site is run over by 16-20 year olds who have no clue.
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          • emoney
            SBR MVP
            • 03-12-09
            • 1481

            #6
            Are there really still people who think they can "handicap" a game? Trust me, there is no stat, trend, or angle you have found that vegas is not already aware of when they set the line to begin with. All you are doing is flipping a coin. The "good handicapers" have just been lucky while the "bad handicappers" have just been getting unlucky. They will both even out in the long run. It is kind of a fun way to spend a life though, so if you enjoy it, more power to you.
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            • TPowell
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-21-08
              • 18842

              #7
              ^
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              • boondoggle
                SBR MVP
                • 09-29-10
                • 3014

                #8
                Originally posted by emoney
                Are there really still people who think they can "handicap" a game? Trust me, there is no stat, trend, or angle you have found that vegas is not already aware of when they set the line to begin with. All you are doing is flipping a coin. The "good handicapers" have just been lucky while the "bad handicappers" have just been getting unlucky. They will both even out in the long run. It is kind of a fun way to spend a life though, so if you enjoy it, more power to you.
                someone should mention this to Billy Waters
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                • paco
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-07-09
                  • 62873

                  #9
                  Originally posted by emoney
                  Are there really still people who think they can "handicap" a game? Trust me, there is no stat, trend, or angle you have found that vegas is not already aware of when they set the line to begin with. All you are doing is flipping a coin. The "good handicapers" have just been lucky while the "bad handicappers" have just been getting unlucky. They will both even out in the long run. It is kind of a fun way to spend a life though, so if you enjoy it, more power to you.
                  So Brock going 2-23-1 his last 26 plays is just variance?

                  It's gotta be just as hard to go 2-23-1 as it would be 23-2-1
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                  • emoney
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-12-09
                    • 1481

                    #10
                    Yes, believe it or not, 26 plays is a very small sample size. If you were to take your and Brock's picks over the course of say 1000 plays, I would be willing to bet that it would be very close. I know you think that you are God's gift to sports betting, but you are just a coin flipper like everyone else.
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                    • paco
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-07-09
                      • 62873

                      #11
                      Originally posted by emoney
                      Yes, believe it or not, 26 plays is a very small sample size. If you were to take your and Brock's picks over the course of say 1000 plays, I would be willing to bet that it would be very close. I know you think that you are God's gift to sports betting, but you are just a coin flipper like everyone else.
                      I never claimed anything of the sort, but I do ok.

                      And anyone who thinks it's just a "coinflip" Is just a constant sore loser in this game, and should find another hobby/side income source.
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                      • emoney
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-12-09
                        • 1481

                        #12
                        Don't get me wrong, I enjoy betting on a game as much as anyone. But, I think it is cute that you guys look at a game and say, "I like team A because they have a really good defense," or " I think team B is going to win because their star player has really been playing well lately."
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                        • iifold
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-25-10
                          • 11111

                          #13
                          There are some here that actually watch games and have a feel for what's going on...

                          But they will all soon be gone because this place is too crowded, no platform for the top talent...

                          Pretty soon you're gonna have 170 guys preaching reverse line movement and home dogs...
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                          • ACoochy
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-19-09
                            • 13949

                            #14
                            Originally posted by boondoggle
                            this site is run over by 16-20 year olds who have no clue.
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                            • frostno98
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-11-07
                              • 9769

                              #15
                              The college basketball sub forum has some of the most insightful folks you'd find in any forum on the internet.
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                              • FourLengthsClear
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-29-10
                                • 3808

                                #16
                                Originally posted by emoney
                                Are there really still people who think they can "handicap" a game? Trust me, there is no stat, trend, or angle you have found that vegas is not already aware of when they set the line to begin with. All you are doing is flipping a coin. The "good handicapers" have just been lucky while the "bad handicappers" have just been getting unlucky. They will both even out in the long run. It is kind of a fun way to spend a life though, so if you enjoy it, more power to you.
                                This is simply not true.
                                You generally have to dig deep and use a combination of variables but 'angles' can be found.

                                Quite aside from that, books setting of the line is not aimed at being accurate, it is aimed at attracting balanced action as such your job as a modeler/handicapper is, first and foremost, to beat your fellow bettors.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Right now we have the worst group of young handicappers I have ever seen

                                  Its a bunch of compulsive gamblers that cannot wait to get their next bet down and of course every game is a lock
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                                  • FourLengthsClear
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-29-10
                                    • 3808

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Right now we have the worst group of young handicappers I have ever seen

                                    Its a bunch of compulsive gamblers that cannot wait to get their next bet down and of course every game is a lock
                                    I cannot comment on the first part but with one or two exceptions, this is certainly how it appears.
                                    No real analysis, no statistical angles, no line tracking or value calculation - just a bunch of hunches.
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                                    • nyed1010
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 12-05-10
                                      • 1569

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by frostno98
                                      The college basketball sub forum has some of the most insightful folks you'd find in any forum on the internet.
                                      this. A lot of the actual sports titled forums actually have some guys that know what the **** they are talking about. Go to the soccer forum right now. There are some decent write ups on the champions league games tomorrow. People that actually know and understand coaching tendencies, matchups and shit. Eaglesphan always gives nice little writeups on his tennis picks. They may not always be winners, but at least there are some intelligible and valid analysis reasoning for the pick. In player's talk, it's basically "lock of the century, go big on team X, no way they lose this game, they've won 2 straight games and I just know this team and they will not lose"
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                                      • milwaukee mike
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-22-07
                                        • 26914

                                        #20
                                        i have been posting a bunch of winners here to partially offset the rest of the losing picks by these guys that think they have a clue.
                                        you're right, there are some awfully bad picks being posted in players talk.

                                        but if your bets are a coin flip you're either betting too many games or don't have the same intuition as some of us.

                                        it might sound dumb, but the best thing i ever did was listen to "learn esp" tapes - they got me to really focus on probabilities of things that were going to happen in the future.
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                                        • ngates815
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-01-09
                                          • 13845

                                          #21
                                          I think Milwaukee Mike only posts about how awesome he is and that he only posts winners. Never seen a post from him that doesn't talk about how awesome he is doing.

                                          Congrats mike.
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                                          • zam77
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-03-10
                                            • 3586

                                            #22
                                            If you want to find a capper even worth looking at, PT is not the place.
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                                            • obamaismyuncle
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-31-08
                                              • 17801

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by zam77
                                              If you want to find a capper even worth looking at, PT is not the place.
                                              this, also if someone isn't keeping a record(like myself) there's a reason why..
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                                              • milwaukee mike
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-22-07
                                                • 26914

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ngates815
                                                I think Milwaukee Mike only posts about how awesome he is and that he only posts winners. Never seen a post from him that doesn't talk about how awesome he is doing.

                                                Congrats mike.
                                                speaking of which, have you seen how awesome i am doing?
                                                had an easy winner with ok st/kansas OVER last night


                                                power of positive thinking, if you keep telling yourself and others that you're on a roll good things may continue to happen.
                                                and since you're a wrestling fan, one of my favorite wrestlers IS the miz so maybe i get carried away but here goes
                                                I'M MILWAUKEE MIKE AND I'M AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                • Bluedragon
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-30-10
                                                  • 3484

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  Right now we have the worst group of young handicappers I have ever seen

                                                  Its a bunch of compulsive gamblers that cannot wait to get their next bet down and of course every game is a lock
                                                  Runnin on mobile so the picture is small but wow JJ, did you grow your hair out???
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                                                  • GettingScrilla
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 10-29-10
                                                    • 314

                                                    #26
                                                    I blame all of the poor handicapping and shitty loses on the lines...it, is, all, their fault!
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                                                    • MBENZ
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-07-07
                                                      • 5238

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      Right now we have the worst group of young handicappers I have ever seen

                                                      Its a bunch of compulsive gamblers that cannot wait to get their next bet down and of course every game is a lock
                                                      Not real happy about the shit you pulled with Brock coach.It wasn't broke but you just had to try to fix it.
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                                                      • ngates815
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-01-09
                                                        • 13845

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                        speaking of which, have you seen how awesome i am doing? had an easy winner with ok st/kansas OVER last night power of positive thinking, if you keep telling yourself and others that you're on a roll good things may continue to happen. and since you're a wrestling fan, one of my favorite wrestlers IS the miz so maybe i get carried away but here goes I'M MILWAUKEE MIKE AND I'M AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                        Well that is some solid thinking. Positive things happen to positive people.

                                                        I'm not a wrestling fan, and have no idea who the miz is, sorry.
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                                                        • EaglesPhan36
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-06-06
                                                          • 71662

                                                          #29
                                                          It's pretty simple. The Egos all reside in PT. People who grind and actually win usually keep their picks in the sub forums in daily threads, etc. and don't whore themselves out for praise or leave themselves open to ridicule.
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #30
                                                            subforums are for nerds
                                                            all the cool kids hang out here in pt
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                                                            • pavyracer
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 04-12-07
                                                              • 82840

                                                              #31
                                                              Most of the PT "handicappers" are planted. Tail at your own risk.
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                                                              • obamaismyuncle
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-31-08
                                                                • 17801

                                                                #32
                                                                no record = no tailing
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                                                                • cliffcoast
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 10-25-11
                                                                  • 4

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                                                  This is simply not true.
                                                                  You generally have to dig deep and use a combination of variables but 'angles' can be found.

                                                                  Quite aside from that, books setting of the line is not aimed at being accurate, it is aimed at attracting balanced action as such your job as a modeler/handicapper is, first and foremost, to beat your fellow bettors.
                                                                  i like your response and agree with it. i'm a siccessful landlord, builder, but honestly, the math involved in so simple. like accounting 101 simple, common sense and responsible money management.

                                                                  Can you reccomend a course, book, etc for a newbie that is willing to learn sports betting math?

                                                                  Thanks,

                                                                  Cliff
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                                                                  • Dirty Sanchez
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-01-10
                                                                    • 16031

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by cliffcoast
                                                                    i like your response and agree with it. i'm a siccessful landlord, builder, but honestly, the math involved in so simple. like accounting 101 simple, common sense and responsible money management.

                                                                    Can you reccomend a course, book, etc for a newbie that is willing to learn sports betting math?

                                                                    Thanks,

                                                                    Cliff
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      A lot of chest stompers here
                                                                      Most guys hit around 40-45%
                                                                      sub forums have better cappers
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