[GunShard]

I am wondering about the public perception on these two teams.

[newjerseydevils]

redskins

[icancount2one]

The public perception is that the Redskins will do better. I see a lot of comments about the 'Skins SB chances around the internet.

I think the Raiders will do much better now that they have a qualified NFL QB. Campbell threw for 64.5% last year, JaMarcus can't hit the toilet with 64.5% accuracy.

[venice2222]

Skins have the talent to go 8-8 this year.

[thebayareabeast]

Dumb question... Oakland is garbage. Skins can be a competitive team.

[frankzig]

Big upgrade for the skins

[iwantcougars]

Redskins

[DaProfessor23]

skins , but i think in a few years Oakland with pass them and become better team

[MarlinsFan2212]

Skins have the better team, but are in a much tougher division. I mean if Oakland can steal a game from the Chargers, and take care of business against the Chiefs and Broncos, they could also hover around .500 easily and be in contention to win that division. However that is a big IF.

[cover1]

Both teams could go 0-16, who cares!

[Grits n' Gravy]

Skins still need to be able to protect McNabb and Haynesworth has become more than just a headache. If they start slow, I see big problems for Shannahan.

Raiders have a lot of young talent, but Campbell is a below average qb throwing to a group of inexperienced guys. McFadden needs to become a lead rb. The D is still suspect.

8 wins for either team will be a stretch and if I had to pick which one will do it, I'd pick the Skins. Never underestimate the foolishness of Al Davis.

[pinnacle212]

Skins still need to be able to protect McNabb and Haynesworth has become more than just a headache. If they start slow, I see big problems for Shannahan. Raiders have a lot of young talent, but Campbell is a below average qb throwing to a group of inexperienced guys. McFadden needs to become a lead rb. The D is still suspect. 8 wins for either team will be a stretch and if I had to pick which one will do it, I'd pick the Skins. Never underestimate the foolishness of Al Davis.

You have no idea what you are talking about. The Raiders have a better O-line than the Redskins. If you cant figure that out you are really crazy. They can actually protect Campbell instead of buying overprice D-linesman. They could have bought a whole offenseline for what they are paying haynesworth. There defense will suck because the locker room will suck. Its hard for McFadden to run when your QB cant complete a five yard pass because he looks like and O-linesman at QB

Love the Ashy Larry Avatar.

[crazymilkman]

how can we tell since the game haven't started yet

[khaden]

Public perception will side with the skins, however we all know how often they are correct. I am biased because I'm a Raider fan. They should be much better this year and could end up being 9-7 or 8-8. I see the skins being around the same, it's going to take Shanahan a few years yet, Hanesworth is turning into a big distraction, and Mcnabbs best years are behind him.

[slacker00]

It's close because the Raiders have a much easier schedule than the Redskins. But I still vote Redskins, McNabb is an Elite QB.

[whatsgood5]

Gotta vote for my Skins of course.

Will be heavily rooting for the Raiders though, more specifically JC. Guy never got a fair shake here, true class act though, and has the skills to succeed in this league behind a good OL IMO.

[thebayareabeast]

McNabb is no longer an elite QB.

[dialup_king]

washington

[steve18]

It's too early to make this call. Neither of these teams is making the playoffs most likely.

[blackbox]

REDSKINS- Raiders in deep water.

[GunShard]

The stats that are over looked on the poor teams, would be the Raiders and Bills passing defense. It's strong but their offense is obviously lacking.

[Wade Dwayne]

Raiders should be better this year if they leave Cambell alone at QB as there defense was competitive at times even though they were on the field 70% of the time. As for the redskins they wont beat a division opponent. My vote Raiders.

[2daBank]

i thought last year oak town was a qb away from being competitive at least, and they proved that picking up a few solid wins when fat boy got pulled, oak in a much easier div but i also like what the skins have done if they can make something out of the Haynesworth situation i think they will be solid....very close as i think they both improved but i will say Oak right now just because of schedule.....

[2daBank]

The public perception is that the Redskins will do better. I see a lot of comments about the 'Skins SB chances around the internet.

I think the Raiders will do much better now that they have a qualified NFL QB. Campbell threw for 64.5% last year, JaMarcus can't hit the toilet with 64.5% accuracy.

..... solid post

[Herrington]

Redskins Could win but they need more than just corage!!!!!!!!!1

[DrAwInGdEaD]

really????? redskins by far

[slacker00]

McNabb is no longer an elite QB.

McNabb is coming off one of his best years, statistically. Saying that McNabb is slowing down is like saying that Favre is slowing down. The evidence points to the contrary. McNabb seems to be following Favre's path of being run out of town by an up and coming younger QB only to go to a divsion rival. I expect McNabb to have a season like Favre had this year and for Favre to maintain his high level of play.

You can keep counting these old guys out, but the numbers suggest that they are still better than ever.

[2daBank]

McNabb is coming off one of his best years, statistically. Saying that McNabb is slowing down is like saying that Favre is slowing down. The evidence points to the contrary. McNabb seems to be following Favre's path of being run out of town by an up and coming younger QB only to go to a divsion rival. I expect McNabb to have a season like Favre had this year and for Favre to maintain his high level of play.

You can keep counting these old guys out, but the numbers suggest that they are still better than ever.

i agree, nothing points to Mcnabb being in decline. im sure he can have several more good years, however unlike Farve Mcnabb is downgrading weapon wise so not sure he will put the same kinda numbers up this 1st year...

[LLXC]

Definitely the Skins...

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Redkins

[stitchez]

I dont think any of those teams will do good, i hope the raiders dont come back to so cal.. keep them out..

[slacker00]

i agree, nothing points to Mcnabb being in decline. im sure he can have several more good years, however unlike Farve Mcnabb is downgrading weapon wise so not sure he will put the same kinda numbers up this 1st year...

I'm not sure what to think about the Redskins offense, as a whole, with so many pieces to the puzzle laying on the table. At RB, they've still got Portis who'll be 29 years old, Larry Johnson who'll be 31 years old and Willie Parker who'll be 30, so RB will be kinda curious as far as age is concerned with all of these guys getting towards the end of their useful life as a primary back. At WR, Moss is still solid but will be 31 years old. Then they've got Galloway who'll be 39 and Furrey at 33, but I gotta imagine one or both will be cut before opening day. Then they've got Malcom Kelley and Devin Thomas who'll both be entering their 3rd year and ought to start becoming major contributors at WR. Then they've got solid guys like Cooley, Sellers, F.Davis at FB/TE to give McNabb that nice blocking & safety valve option. On the offensive line, #4 overall pick LT Trent Williams might make or break the season for the Redskins because if he's solid they will go far, but if he's a bust it could be a disaster.

[jjgold]

Redskins by far

10-6

[2daBank]

I'm not sure what to think about the Redskins offense, as a whole, with so many pieces to the puzzle laying on the table. At RB, they've still got Portis who'll be 29 years old, Larry Johnson who'll be 31 years old and Willie Parker who'll be 30, so RB will be kinda curious as far as age is concerned with all of these guys getting towards the end of their useful life as a primary back. At WR, Moss is still solid but will be 31 years old. Then they've got Galloway who'll be 39 and Furrey at 33, but I gotta imagine one or both will be cut before opening day. Then they've got Malcom Kelley and Devin Thomas who'll both be entering their 3rd year and ought to start becoming major contributors at WR. Then they've got solid guys like Cooley, Sellers, F.Davis at FB/TE to give McNabb that nice blocking & safety valve option. On the offensive line, #4 overall pick LT Trent Williams might make or break the season for the Redskins because if he's solid they will go far, but if he's a bust it could be a disaster.

good post....you right a healthy Cooley to go along with the emerging Davis is a intriguing pair of weapons for Shanahan to play with, gotta think with that stable of aging backs they will be able to keep someone upright and running strong, if that can happen i agree Kelley could certainly be a up and coming star, of coarse like you said a lot rest on a line, wouldnt it have been nice if they didnt pay that fat jackass 100 mil and used that for some lineman....you certainly switched my brain back to football mode as i was struggling to picture what there offense would look like

[GunShard]

It's like Raiders' better schedule vs Redskins' stronger players. Let's see which team will have a better record at the end of the season.