Seahawks ML over the Saints

[BetterBizness]

What is a 20 bet? What is an analyze?

I am taking the hawks ml +450 for a $100 and +10.5 for $200. You seem insistent on putting me down. And the fact that I have lost a good chunk of change in the nfl this year( mostly on 3 games). Maybe you should just make your own bets and not follow others like you usually do so when you lose the mirror in your room can be made to good use instead of the keyboard.

I already gave out my analysis. The seahawks are a shitty team so no one can give a reason on why they are going to win. I am taking a shot with them. Earlier in the year I posted a thread about the browns ml in new orleans( I Didn't bet it) and they won. Its a $100 bet so I think I will survive if they don't win. Oh btw please tell me what a 20 bet is Will Smith.

pretty clear most cloud their judgement because of the past in this place... I like the bet... I'm not blaming anyone if I lose... It's not a steam play.. It has clear value... If NO wins by 30.. good for them.... I just think it will be tougher than most people think... 4 inches of Snow in Vancouver, which likely means snow this week in Seattle... at worst cold and humid... I've also pointed out NO has lost their last THREE games in below average weather, ALL with BREES having big numbers, but BIG PICKS.... one against a 7-9 Bears team, another against a 9-7 Bears team... and the other in the same year in the NFC championship game where they were crushed...

Dec 11, 2008- (L) 27-24 Brees was 24-32 - 243 Yards - 2 TD's 2 INT's
Dec 30, 2007 -(L) 33-25 Brees was 35-60 - 320 yards - 3 TD's 2 INT's
Jan 21, 2007 - (L) 39-14 Brees was 27-49 - 354 Yards - 2 TD's 1 INT ...

so it's a GIVEN - Brees puts up 29-47 for 305 yards for 3 TD's and 2 INT's... Clear GIVEN - But obviously Seattle BAD right .. we know this... Because those BEARS teams in the past must have LIT UP the Saints D... RiGHT? the ONLY way they could win the game right...

Dec 11, 2008 - Orton 24-40 - 172 - 0 TD's, 1 INT - RB Forte 11 - 34 1 TD
Dec 30, 2007 - Orton 12-27 - 190 - 2 TD's, 1 INT - RB Peterson 21-91 0 TD's
Jan 21, 2007 - REX GROSSMAN - 11-26 - 144 yards 1 TD - 0 INT - Jones - 19-123 - 2TD's

Way too many guys who "think" they know football/sports... and don't realize that even in a BLOWOUT, there are usually made up by one or two plays EARLY/Midway that typically knock another team on their ass and they can't get up... What part of Kyle Orton, or Rex Grossman screams SUPERSTAR? Why do you think you are GETTING 5:1 on your money???

Again... this COULD be a blowout, no one is questioning how good NO is... but the past shows that with a SIMILARly composed team, with many of the SAME players and Coaching staff, there is at least a DECENT possibility that the game stays close... and IF it stays close... I would LOVE to take my shot at 5:1 down 7 in the 4th...

[Pride>UFC]

I honestly doubt the Seahawks cover this spread...should win by 2-3 Tds easily because the Seahawks are just God awful and the other team has some guy named Drew Brees.

[Jessica]

4 inches of snow in Vancouver? where??

[BetterBizness]

4 inches of snow in Vancouver? where??

I realize that Vancouver is NOT Seattle... but I know much of the time alot of the fronts form the north Hit the Both of them, even at different times....

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/cabc0308?ref=homemap

Summary
Snow will persist over inland sections of the north and central coasts and will spread to the south coast later today. This is a warning that significant snowfall is expected or occurring in these regions. Monitor weather conditions..Listen for updated statements.

Details
An approaching Pacific frontal system will sweep down the British Columbia coast today spreading snow to most coastal regions. More snow is forecast for the north and Central Coast - inland sections where 10 to 20 cm of additional accumulations can be expected through Wednesday morning. The snow is expected to change to rain later on Wednesday as warmer air spreads inland. Snow will develop over the south coast later this morning and early this afternoon with widespread amounts of 5 to 15 cm expected by Wednesday morning. Higher amounts are forecast for Howe Sound where up to 20 cm may fall by Wednesday afternoon. In areas near the water, the snow is forecast to slowly change over to rain tonight or early Wednesday as the warmer Pacific air begins to mix down to the surface.

[BetterBizness]

I honestly doubt the Seahawks cover this spread...should win by 2-3 Tds easily because the Seahawks are just God awful and the other team has some guy named Drew Brees.

Awesome analysis... Seahawks Bad.. Drew Brees Good... Well played...

[mlb]

Awesome analysis... Seahawks Bad.. Drew Brees Good... Well played...

wayyyy too many people analyze games like this and thats why the public loses in the long run ... no one is fukking doubting that the saints are good and the seahawks are not so good but that does not mean that upsets do not happen .. everything does not always go to plan in sports or there would be no point in playing the games .. its hard to debate with people on here .. some will put in good thoughts other just say ... no way .. saints are good, seahawks bad, game over .. that is just plain stupid .. OBVISOULY THE SAINTS ARE BETTER .. no one is arguing that .. whatever

[mlb]

another key to making money is predicting when these lapses occur by the better team and finding soft lines on dogs

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

Seahawks can't move the ball offensively and our ranked down at the bottom defensively aswell. Do you think magically in a week of practice there going to be able to put together 7 minute drives and put up 28+ points on the Saints? Yes, there such thing as this "Any given Sunday" and of course upsets happen. Maybe if the Rams happened to win the NFC West and were playing in this game I'd give a little bit more respect to the underdog here because I do believe the Rams are the better team on both sides of the ball when comparing to the Seahawks. Just happens the Rams couldn't get anything going on Sunday night and now we have to watch this terrible Seahawks team get hammered by the Saints. No chance Seahawks are pulling the upset here against the defending Super Bowl champs. No one is giving the Saints a break here. When it comes down to experience remember which team has the edge in that department. Whitehurst or Brees?

[arkie boy]

new orleans is a lock. he who knows and knows that he knows is wise follow him

[ebbearsfb1]

stupid... everyone can have an opinion.. but this thread is just to grab attention

[mlb]

new orleans is a lock. he who knows and knows that he knows is wise follow him

[BetterBizness]

stupid... everyone can have an opinion.. but this thread is just to grab attention

why does that matter ... (Some) People have used the thread to actually discuss a game...

What part of your post related to that point... Or are YOU just looking for attention?

[BetterBizness]

Not one person actually has any good to say about the Saints that matters...

1) They are superbowl Champs... So what... They won last year... If the MIGHTY Carolina Panthers got 5 more yards on the last drive on week 3, the Champs are 1-2 and likely NOT making the playoffs... they did.. they made a run.. here we are... Yes.. they are good... Clearly... But How good...

2) Saints won 6 in a row... 7 of 8 even....As mentioned... Against what we know now were weaker teams...

Dallas - Should have Lost if Roy Williams wasn't an idiot...
Cinci - Last Minute Come From Behind
St. Louis - on Saints 4 Yard line Bradford INT in last minute of First half returned - Game over...

Cleveland in Week 6 - Colt McCoy TORCHES the Saints for 9-16 - 74 Yards Passing... to win 30-17 IN Orleans...
Brees in that game was 37-56 for 356 yards w 2 TD's and 4 INTS... AT HOME... In the DOME... against a 1-5 CLEVELAND team...

3) NO Dominates ALL important Stats... - Sure.. They do... But again... Winning against a weak schedule, while the Hawks got the Sheit kicked out of them... ALOT...

Want SOME sort of Bullsheit Stats that show at least a hope to match all the Bullsheit Stats that have been displayed so far -

Seattle's Defense has allowed 4.2 Y/C Rushing.. NO.. 4.3...

Leon Washington is 3rd Leading Kick returner with 1461 Yards - NO Leader Returner - Roby who is now on the IR... Pierre Thomas is in Charge of that department now along with the Bushman...

Sacks - Sea 13th Ranked (37) - Clemons (11) - Sea Brock (9) Ranked 10th and 22nd in the NFL
NO - 18th ranked (33) Ellis (6), Smith (5.5) - Ranked 39th, and 49th ...

INT's - Seattle Ranked 26th with just 12 picks - 5 of which are to S Thomas (5) - 9th in NFL..
NO - Seattle Ranked 32nd -With Leader Jenkins (2) - 58th in NFL

Really..Stats are nice when building a case.. they are tools... The difference is the little things... which one of them I'm saying is the conditions of which the game is being played... A tipped ball here, a bad decision there... Seattle Stays close... and makes a game... Or NOT... Brees opens up with a 74 yard drive and Washington Fumbles the Kickoff to make it 14-0 Saints 4 minutes in... Maybe that will happen... I'm just saying I don't think it will...

anyone that thinks this game isn't even a "little" tougher than it sounds... take the easy 10.5 and kill it... Make us all proud...

[lenahanj]

Seattle 24 New Orleans 17 lock it uppppppppp

[Zubi]

GL, I hope the hawks win.

[The J-Dizzle]

What is a 20 bet? What is an analyze?

I am taking the hawks ml +450 for a $100 and +10.5 for $200. You seem insistent on putting me down. And the fact that I have lost a good chunk of change in the nfl this year( mostly on 3 games). Maybe you should just make your own bets and not follow others like you usually do so when you lose the mirror in your room can be made to good use instead of the keyboard.

I already gave out my analysis. The seahawks are a shitty team so no one can give a reason on why they are going to win. I am taking a shot with them. Earlier in the year I posted a thread about the browns ml in new orleans( I Didn't bet it) and they won. Its a $100 bet so I think I will survive if they don't win. Oh btw please tell me what a 20 bet is Will Smith.

I don't want to put you down in anyway LB. But you said that people who supports NO in this game doesn't know how to be profitable, which isn't true. In fact you're the one who doesn't know how to be profitable in betting NFL. I have been profitable this season, my first season betting and I make good money on it. You say you know the sport and I know you have loads of experience, but have you been profitable this season? Perhaps I understand how to be profitable? Even though I perhaps support NO?

I just think you said a stupid comment. You can't say that anyone else doesn't understand how to be profitable when you aren't.

And why are you asking about a 20 bet? Is it the fact that you once put money on Jets-20 against the Pats? A game they lost by a landslide?

BOL in the future!


Will Smith rocks.

[big0mar]

I don't want to put you down in anyway LB. But you said that people who supports NO in this game doesn't know how to be profitable, which isn't true. In fact you're the one who doesn't know how to be profitable in betting NFL. I have been profitable this season, my first season betting and I make good money on it. You say you know the sport and I know you have loads of experience, but have you been profitable this season? Perhaps I understand how to be profitable? Even though I perhaps support NO? I just think you said a stupid comment. You can't say that anyone else doesn't understand how to be profitable when you aren't. And why are you asking about a 20 bet? Is it the fact that you once put money on Jets-20 against the Pats? A game they lost by a landslide? BOL in the future! Will Smith rocks.

I don't think you understand what 'profitable' means in this context.

I would venture to guess that even Brock Landers had a 'profitable' season in the context you are referring to.

[unusialsusp5]

NO overpriced on road but should win outright. however they may be a play against vs. chicago next week.

[BetterBizness]

NO overpriced on road but should win outright. however they may be a play against vs. chicago next week.

Nice thinking there too... I've harped on all these Chicago Stats over the past 3 games... NO wins, and all those stats would come out again...

NO has a tough "road" ahead of them... already banged up... Will have to play TWO tough weather games... Even if (when) they beat Seattle... Probably not coming out unscathed either considering they are already beat up...

Interesting...

[forloveofthegame]

the hawks dont even know who will be there qb because they both suck

this game is the definition of a snoozer

[SR]

Unless the ML is atleast+1000 there is no point in taking it, saints will beat seahawks 9/10 in this situation.

[headhunter34]

although i dont think the seahawks will beat the saints i do think theyll cover the spread. they always play tough at home and i can see that crowd goin crazy

[darren125]

Saints all the way.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

Unless the ML is atleast+1000 there is no point in taking it, saints will beat seahawks 9/10 in this situation.

10 times out of 10 times.

[BetterBizness]

10 times out of 10 times.

good call.. maybe 11 out of 10 even...

[opie1988]

good call.. maybe 11 out of 10 even...

Good one.

[ebbearsfb1]

yea a game that needs no discussion... saints win thats it

[BetterBizness]

yea a game that needs no discussion... saints win thats it

Clearly.. NEXT...

[INVEGA MAN]

i WILL TAKE THEM +11 BUT NEVER STRAIGHT UP. BREES WOULD HAVE TO GET HURT FOR SEATTLE TO WIN

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

i WILL TAKE THEM +11 BUT NEVER STRAIGHT UP. BREES WOULD HAVE TO GET HURT FOR SEATTLE TO WIN

Even if Brees goes down I don't think the Hawks could take down the Saints.

[pokernut9999]

Heard today that a defending Super Bowl Champion has not won a playoff game since 2005 .

[pavyracer]

Heard today that a defending Super Bowl Champion has not won a playoff game since 2005 .

Yeah but how many were 11 point favs?

[kobebryant55]

maybe, just maybe, the seahawks cover. if the saints lose this game i will punch myself in the face, and burn 200$ just off principle..

no ******* way the seahawks win they are the worst ******* disgrace of a team i have ever seen. my oakland raiders destroyed them in seattle, you think there going to beat the ******* saints, are you high, the seahawks are just a tad bit of a step up to the cardinals i dont give a shit bout there record and there 7wins. they ARE TERRIBLE...

possibly .. JUST 5% chance they cover... .0000000000000001% chance they win..


this is dumb.. on to capping real games. next

[ayuntalo]

seahawks are hard to watch and dont deserve to be on the playoffs they wont score more than 10

[DeluxeLiner]

should be a good game. seahawks have a big home field advantage and the seahawks are playing with house money