Why no one (besides gamblers) talk about games being fixed?

[Jimmy0607]

Yesterday game was a perfect example but no one will ever talk about it , they wot even question the playcalling

[MBENZ]

Yesterday game was a perfect example but no one will ever talk about it , they wot even question the playcalling

Most likely because people that don't gamble have no idea about pointspreads.It's hard to believe but there's actually people fhat don't bet.

[ronjon619]

That game was not fixed. Fisher made a HUGE coaching decision. The PUNT on 4th and 1 in their own side of the field with 4 minutes left was the game right there. Also the Rookie WR for the Colts who took away 4 points by running the wrong route killed the cover for them.

[jgray]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that last night's game wasn't fixed. Fisher made a call to not go for the FG, a decision I disagree with. Oh, and a rookie WR ran the wrong route and prevented a TD. That's all.

[INVEGA MAN]

When games are fixed, i pray i have the right team that they fix

[ouman101]

Yesterday game was a perfect example but no one will ever talk about it , they wot even question the playcalling

I don't think the game was fixed, but the announcers were questioning the Titans decision. Matt Milan specifically said when there was 30 seconds left, "why not kick a field goal here, and try to get the on-side kick...You're going to have to get an onside kick either way and this is using to much clock"

[ouman101]

Now, he also may have been on the colts, and didn't want the Titans to cover

[Mikail]

Yesterday game was a perfect example but no one will ever talk about it , they wot even question the playcalling

It's really quite simple. The ones who don't gamble are watching for entertainment. When I didn't bet sports I never noticed the small game changers that I notice now. It's perception really. When you have a vested interest you will watch closely unlike someone who is watching for entertainmnet. Listen that's a part of this game we play. Games are gonna go down like that. It would be stupid for them to not fix a game now and then. Much money to be made. I personally think they are getting greedy but that's a whole another story. Don't mind those who are gonna come in and say "this ain't fixed" and all that nonsense. They are either fukkin stupid or just trying to stir the pot.

[forloveofthegame]

ive played the sport before and i know it inside and out. a hs coach wouldnt have made the "mistake" fisher did. thats just common sense.

[ringemup]

ive played the sport before and i know it inside and out. a hs coach wouldnt have made the "mistake" fisher did. thats just common sense.

fishers got a bounty on his head now haha

[stealthyburrito]

That game was not fixed. Fisher made a HUGE coaching decision. The PUNT on 4th and 1 in their own side of the field with 4 minutes left was the game right there. Also the Rookie WR for the Colts who took away 4 points by running the wrong route killed the cover for them.

yeah, imo that was the difference, blair white jumping in front of the pass intended for wayne in the back of the endzone.

at that point i had a real bad feeling about my colts bet.

[sharpcat]

So both Fisher and Blair White were in on the "FIX"???

Man these guys make millions of dollars how was somebody able to pay both of them off to throw the game and still be able to find enough places to get down money to profit and give Fisher and Blair White their payoff??

Maybe their families were kidnapped and held hostage by the mafia

Maybe the NFL decided that they wanted their golden boy Peyton to win but only by 2 points so they scripted out the whole game just like a WWE event so that the Titans would come back and lose by exactly 2 points with no time left in the game???

Possibly it was the CIA??? maybe the government knew everybody was betting the Colts and wanted to teach them a lesson about how bad online gambling is???

Or maybe the Titans played the game like a team who had just lost 5 games in a row and needed to come out and make a statement???

Fisher made the right call you get the TD while you are close and get the field goal after the onside kick, which the play call he made only fell 2yds shy of giving them a TD with 30 seconds left on the clock. Fisher had a play he liked he called it and it almost worked. Sometimes football coaches who have lost 5 games in a row need to take a gamble themselves if they want to keep their jobs.

Fisher took a shot at scoring a TD just like Colts bakers took a shot on the Colts and you both lost, there is no one play call to make just like there is no one side of a bet that is guaranteed to win.

[chilidog]

Because people in general have a hard time accepting the consequences of their actions, and it's always easier to blame somebody or something else than it is to face the fact that they were wrong.

[stealthyburrito]

never said blair white was in on a fix, just that his idiocy changed the feel of the game for me.

[lyon804]

So both Fisher and Blair White were in on the "FIX"???

Man these guys make millions of dollars how was somebody able to pay both of them off to throw the game and still be able to find enough places to get down money to profit and give Fisher and Blair White their payoff??

Maybe their families were kidnapped and held hostage by the mafia

Maybe the NFL decided that they wanted their golden boy Peyton to win but only by 2 points so they scripted out the whole game just like a WWE event so that the Titans would come back and lose by exactly 2 points with no time left in the game???

Possibly it was the CIA??? maybe the government knew everybody was betting the Colts and wanted to teach them a lesson about how bad online gambling is???

Or maybe the Titans played the game like a team who had just lost 5 games in a row and needed to come out and make a statement???

Fisher made the right call you get the TD while you are close and get the field goal after the onside kick, which the play call he made only fell 2yds shy of giving them a TD with 30 seconds left on the clock. Fisher had a play he liked he called it and it almost worked. Sometimes football coaches who have lost 5 games in a row need to take a gamble themselves if they want to keep their jobs.

Fisher took a shot at scoring a TD just like Colts bakers took a shot on the Colts and you both lost, there is no one play call to make just like there is no one side of a bet that is guaranteed to win.

THIS! What also is funny is the role Adam Vinateri played by kicking the 47 yrd FG to push the lead to 9, thus setting up the garbage TD. If Adam Vinaterri misses the FG I am quite confident the "sharp" Colts backers would have cashed



Bottomline, to all the conspiracy experts.. If they game was really fixed do you think they would have left it to chance by having the Colts kick a 47 yrd FG in frezzing temperatures?? That is only a make in those conditions roughly 60% of the time. Do you think a fix is going to leave that much to chance?? If it was fixed and Vinaterri misses it do the Colts just let the Titans score the TD anyways and lose the game? If it was fixed the Colts would have got a chip shot FG at the end not a 47 yarder thus making it easier. A fix will not leave to chance a 47 yrd FG. If you people watched the game you would know 47 yrd FG's are not automatic, none are actually.


Vinaterri kicked the FG and I poured another drink. It was mathmatical from then on out as long as Tenn doesn't turn it over. Colts get paid to win games not cover spreads. They let Tenn have all the stuff short and over the middle thus eating up the clock and taking any chances of a second possesion. That is a prevent D played all over the league in those situations.Colts didn't care if they scored or not because there method was to run the clock out and they perfected it to a tee.

[pavyracer]

The easiest games to fix are the ones where the team that is supposed to win wins but doesn't cover the spread. It's more prevalent in basketball where a needless foul with seconds left or dribbling the ball out to run out the clock can sway a spread. Of course if the line is -12 and the team is winning by 11 points no media is going to criticize a coach for winning by 11 and not trying to win by 13.

[ouman101]

THIS! What also is funny is the role Adam Vinateri played by kicking the 47 yrd FG to push the lead to 9, thus setting up the garbage TD. If Adam Vinaterri misses the FG I am quite confident the "sharp" Colts backers would have cashed Bottomline, to all the conspiracy experts.. If they game was really fixed do you think they would have left it to chance by having the Colts kick a 47 yrd FG in frezzing temperatures?? That is only a make in those conditions roughly 60% of the time. Do you think a fix is going to leave that much to chance?? If it was fixed and Vinaterri misses it do the Colts just let the Titans score the TD anyways and lose the game? If it was fixed the Colts would have got a chip shot FG at the end not a 47 yarder thus making it easier. A fix will not leave to chance a 47 yrd FG. If you people watched the game you would know 47 yrd FG's are not automatic, none are actually. Vinaterri kicked the FG and I poured another drink. It was mathmatical from then on out as long as Tenn doesn't turn it over. Colts get paid to win games not cover spreads. They let Tenn have all the stuff short and over the middle thus eating up the clock and taking any chances of a second possesion. That is a prevent D played all over the league in those situations.Colts didn't care if they scored or not because there method was to run the clock out and they perfected it to a tee.

Yeah, I agree. Once Vinateri made that FG, I knew I was screwed. No need to stop Tennessee from scoring, just let them burn as much clock as possible.

[lyon804]

Yeah, I agree. Once Vinateri made that FG, I knew I was screwed. No need to stop Tennessee from scoring, just let them burn as much clock as possible.

And for what's it's worth I took a way more bad beat than this on Philly-3 at home to Colts a few weeks back. Same scenario, just a little more time.. Philly up 9 late, with Indy driving but there is around 2 minutes left when Colts get in Red Zone so Philly is not trying to let them score. Colts have a 4th and 18 and Manning is sacked and fumbled. Ball game Philly recovers, doesn't matter it was 4th and 18, but... wait a minute.. The philly rushed grazed whittle pey, peys helment as was rushing from behing going for the ball. it was a grazing and was not intentional. He was simply going for the ball. Ref threw flag for personal foul, illegal contact to the helment and that set up 1st and goal and Colts scored. Ball game philly wins by2. The game was OVER! But the ref made a call that was questionable to most and Colts scored. All the $25 bettors were happy that day because there Colts cashed, almost exact same scrnario but different outcome and the $25 bettors all think it was rigged now

[Sunde91]

Would you stop.

Do you have any idea how much has to fall PERFECTLY into place for a team to win by 2 on a -3? I mean do you think they had this planned to the very last second of the game? Why wouldn't the Colts let Titans score way before that and then just run out clock? And what if Vinateri missed the 45 FG or w/e? If it was a fix, why wouldn't the Titans let them in closer for a 25 yard chip shot?

0% chance of fix if you think critically for 5 seconds.

[lyon804]

Would you stop.

Do you have any idea how much has to fall PERFECTLY into place for a team to win by 2 on a -3? I mean do you think they had this planned to the very last second of the game? Why wouldn't the Colts let Titans score way before that and then just run out clock? And what if Vinateri missed the 45 FG or w/e? If it was a fix, why wouldn't the Titans let them in closer for a 25 yard chip shot?

0% chance of fix if you think critically for 5 seconds.

said the same exact thing in my above post. great minds think alike.

[freelee]

Game was fixed no doubt about it

[chilidog]

Game was fixed no doubt about it

I guess you lost, eh?

[tony_come]

Would you stop.

Do you have any idea how much has to fall PERFECTLY into place for a team to win by 2 on a -3? I mean do you think they had this planned to the very last second of the game? Why wouldn't the Colts let Titans score way before that and then just run out clock? And what if Vinateri missed the 45 FG or w/e? If it was a fix, why wouldn't the Titans let them in closer for a 25 yard chip shot?

0% chance of fix if you think critically for 5 seconds.

you have no clue

WHy wouldnt the colts let titams score way before that and the n just run out the clock?
Answer: to much time left with 3:06 minutes left. For example if tenn score with time left, tenn will attempt a on side kick.

you and fisher think alike along with lyon

great minds does not think alike

[HotStreak]

Nothing you can do about it if it is fixed.

[TexansFan]

I don't question whether or not the games are fixed, but I do wonder about those who constantly complain that the casinos are fixed, that the NFL is fixed, the NBA, poker, etc., but yet still bet. Makes no sense unless you're a complete idiot.

[Mikail]

I can't wait until the next time I am on the right side of the fix. I will make a thread calling it a fix even though I won. People always respond with Oh only when people lose they call the fix and people don't know how the accept losing a bet. That's bullshit! I've been on both sides of fixed games and I dislike them either way. It ruins the integrity of the game.

[DrStale]

Would you stop.

Do you have any idea how much has to fall PERFECTLY into place for a team to win by 2 on a -3? I mean do you think they had this planned to the very last second of the game? Why wouldn't the Colts let Titans score way before that and then just run out clock? And what if Vinateri missed the 45 FG or w/e? If it was a fix, why wouldn't the Titans let them in closer for a 25 yard chip shot?

0% chance of fix if you think critically for 5 seconds.

Holy shit, someone on the board has a fukkin clue.

Why the hell would the refs "let" the Colts go up 21-0 in a fixed game? It's a hell of a lot easier and less suspicious to keep the game at least somewhat close with a questionable call here or there then make a team come back from a blowout.

Also, did any of you geniuses stop to think that it took a touchdown on 4th down with no time left on the clock to "fix" this game? Cuz I'm sure if the fix was in everyone was banking on Kerry Collins one one play for the millions they had at risk.

Hey guess what? You lost. Take a step back and realize how ignorant you're being, take a deep breath, then come back.

[str]

Fix,Fix,Fix
Such an old, boring rant.

[chilidog]

I can't wait until the next time I am on the right side of the fix. I will make a thread calling it a fix even though I won. People always respond with Oh only when people lose they call the fix and people don't know how the accept losing a bet. That's bullshit! I've been on both sides of fixed games and I dislike them either way. It ruins the integrity of the game.

Sure. Everybody knows that the NFL is scripted. It's just like WWE. Every play was planned beforehand. Both coaches got together in unison and made this plan, to make the Colts win by 2 points. And they do this, despite being paid millions of dollars, because somebody in Vegas told them to. Makes perfect sense to me.

[dfberger23]

Don't know if anyone saw Blazers-Clippers the other day but the spread was 7 and the Clippers were down 7...12 seconds to play, Baron Davis misses a three and the Blazers get the rebound and then a foul is called on Baron. Baron looked at the ref with a "WTF" expression. Portland wins by 9. That was pretty suspicious.

[lyon804]

Holy shit, someone on the board has a fukkin clue.

Why the hell would the refs "let" the Colts go up 21-0 in a fixed game? It's a hell of a lot easier and less suspicious to keep the game at least somewhat close with a questionable call here or there then make a team come back from a blowout.

Also, did any of you geniuses stop to think that it took a touchdown on 4th down with no time left on the clock to "fix" this game? Cuz I'm sure if the fix was in everyone was banking on Kerry Collins one one play for the millions they had at risk.

Hey guess what? You lost. Take a step back and realize how ignorant you're being, take a deep breath, then come back.

Holy shit Dr. Stale We have found common ground on this site. You hit the nail on the head, sir. Nothing tickles me more than seeing all these brain dead posters that need a wet wipe today because they lost there whittle $25 bets

[TexansFan]

Yeah, Roger Goodell read SBR before the game started, and once he determined the majority were on Indy he phoned the refs and advised then how the game should play out. He then called Billy Walters and dumped all of his money on the Titans +3 and sat back and enjoyed the game.

Then, after the game, a UFO picked him up and he met with all the actors involved in the fake 911 attacks.

[ByeShea]

Yesterday game was a perfect example but no one will ever talk about it , they wot even question the playcalling

You should have addressed it "besides gamblers who lost" because if you won yesterday you'd be on YouPorn right now and not starting this tragic thread.

[DrStale]

Holy shit Dr. Stale We have found common ground on this site. You hit the nail on the head, sir. Nothing tickles me more than seeing all these brain dead posters that need a wet wipe today because they lost there whittle $25 bets

Indeed sir. It is amazing how fast the blinders go up when someone doesn't want to admit they ran into some bad luck. Betting is a grind folks, when stuff like this happens it serves as a great reminder as to why you don't go huge on one game.

[King Mayan]

Dan Patrick was hinting at the game being fixed today!