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  • Louisvillekid1
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-17-07
    • 52143

    #36
    Originally posted by imgv94
    idiotic statement.. Washington is the 9th best team in the conference and even they are pretty good.

    USC is the 5th best team in the conference and their resume includes wins over UCLA So.Ill (BLOWOUT), losing in O.T to Memphis on the road and barely losing to Kansas..


    UCLA
    Stanford
    Washington St
    Arizona
    USC
    California
    Arizona St
    Oregon


    All very good teams.. Jesus Christ you are wrong..
    I know you love the pac 10 and all, but they are very overrated. UCLA is really the only solid team, Stanford is very good but thats it.

    Washington St.- who have they beat? They aren't a top 15 team.

    Arizona - Its just bayless and budinger thats all, no inside presence and Lute Olson is not there.

    California- come on dude, are they even .500 in conference. Put them in the Big east and they barely would make it to MSG.

    Oregon- Horible half court team, only good when they can run up and down. They get hot at times, but zero chance of any tournament success.

    Arizona St. Better than the last three teams I mentioned because of Harden, but still not a very good team.

    USC- has shown up against top opponets, they are very inconsistent, and have lost to teams they shouldnt.
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    • onlooker
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      • 08-10-05
      • 36572

      #37
      Easy IMG, no need to get touchy because you live in PAC10 country.

      Your top 3 in the Pac10 are about the only ones I can say belong, the other five just scratch off, they are not going to do a thing.
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      • Tres
        SBR Hustler
        • 09-24-07
        • 78

        #38
        1. UNC
        2. Texas
        3. Tenn
        4. Louisville
        5. Memphis/UCLA
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        • babaoriley
          SBR MVP
          • 12-11-06
          • 2316

          #39
          Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
          1. Tennessee
          2. UCLA
          3. Memphis
          4. Texas
          5. North Carolina
          I would say this looks about right.
          I'd probably go:
          1. Tennessee
          2. UNC
          3. Memphis
          4. Texas
          5. UCLA

          So basically I just have UNC and UCLA switched...
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          • LT Profits
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-27-06
            • 90963

            #40
            imgv,

            Agree to disagree. As I have said before, I have no personal bias against the Pac-10. I go purely by my numbers, and all those Pac-10 teams besides UCLA would lose to mid-level Big East and Big 12 schools, and maybe even to some ACC teams other than the top two. Heck, I'd even take solid mid-majors like Drake and Butler over the bottom half of the Pac-10.
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            • Louisvillekid1
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-17-07
              • 52143

              #41
              Originally posted by LT Profits
              imgv,

              Agree to disagree. As I have said before, I have no personal bias against the Pac-10. I go purely by my numbers, and all those Pac-10 teams besides UCLA would lose to mid-level Big East and Big 12 schools, and maybe even to some ACC teams other than the top two. Heck, I'd even take solid mid-majors like Drake and Butler over the bottom half of the Pac-10.

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              • Wheell
                SBR MVP
                • 01-11-07
                • 1380

                #42
                louisvillekid: Yeah Tennessee won yesterday at Memphis. I'll give them credit for that, but I don't consider then the stronger team overall. Just because team A beats team B in team B's house, that doesn't prove they are better. 1 game just isn't enough of a sample.

                5 star bomb: Georgetown is nowhere near as good as they were last year. I am not sure why but I watch them a lot and they simply don't have the same ceiling. They're good and probably won't lose to a team much weaker than them in the tournament but as soon as they face a team that is roughly equal my guess is they go out.
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                • mofome
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-19-07
                  • 13003

                  #43
                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                  Heck, I'd even take solid mid-majors like Drake and Butler over the bottom half of the Pac-10.



                  two top 20 teams over the bottom of the pac-10? Give me a moment to catch up.
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                  • Louisvillekid1
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-17-07
                    • 52143

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Wheell
                    louisvillekid: Yeah Tennessee won yesterday at Memphis. I'll give them credit for that, but I don't consider then the stronger team overall. Just because team A beats team B in team B's house, that doesn't prove they are better. 1 game just isn't enough of a sample.

                    5 star bomb: Georgetown is nowhere near as good as they were last year. I am not sure why but I watch them a lot and they simply don't have the same ceiling. They're good and probably won't lose to a team much weaker than them in the tournament but as soon as they face a team that is roughly equal my guess is they go out.
                    Agree,

                    And Georgetown is not as good because of a man name JEFF GREEN
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                    • Wheell
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-11-07
                      • 1380

                      #45
                      OK, the Pac 10 is an interesting question. Perhaps we can compile a list of scalps the Pac 10 has taken vs. a list of the times they've been scalped.

                      We know UCLA lost at home to Texas and beat Mich St. on a neutral court. I'll look at the other teams and see what I find.
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                      • Wheell
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-11-07
                        • 1380

                        #46
                        I remember Green going early in the draft and felt that was fine but I remember everyone saying the Hoyas would still be loaded with Hibbert back. Maybe the loss of Green really did mean they no longer have as much potential.
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #47
                          Originally posted by mofome
                          two top 20 teams over the bottom of the pac-10? Give me a moment to catch.
                          LOL

                          Based on what he said, I am assuming imgv would take the Pac-10 teams in those matchups.

                          Let me make my statement stronger by saying I would take Drake and Butler over ANY team in the Pac-10 other than UCLA (i.e., Stanford and Wasington State).
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                          • 5 star bomb
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-12-07
                            • 5370

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Wheell
                            louisvillekid: Yeah Tennessee won yesterday at Memphis. I'll give them credit for that, but I don't consider then the stronger team overall. Just because team A beats team B in team B's house, that doesn't prove they are better. 1 game just isn't enough of a sample.

                            5 star bomb: Georgetown is nowhere near as good as they were last year. I am not sure why but I watch them a lot and they simply don't have the same ceiling. They're good and probably won't lose to a team much weaker than them in the tournament but as soon as they face a team that is roughly equal my guess is they go out.

                            They havent been playing as well as last year but they have the experience and size for the tourney. And even though they havent been playing as good as last season they are still on top of the Big East with Louisville. They are going to make some noise in the tournament imo. They play great defense which is needed come March
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                            • NEP Dynasty
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-17-06
                              • 858

                              #49
                              The middle of the pack Pac-10 teams are a joke. They would get destroyed by middle of the pack Big East teams. Cal? Arizona? Come on
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                              • Louisvillekid1
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-17-07
                                • 52143

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Wheell
                                I remember Green going early in the draft and felt that was fine but I remember everyone saying the Hoyas would still be loaded with Hibbert back. Maybe the loss of Green really did mean they no longer have as much potential.
                                Georgetown has what 4 losses? They are all on the road to good teams. Memphis, Louisville, Pitt, and Syracuse(not so much). They way they play gives them a great chance in the tournament, they are very patient and experienced. Its a veteran team who doesn't make too many mistakes and Hibbert can bail them out anytime they need it. They are atop the best conference in the nation, and a great team.
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                                • Quebb Diesel
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-26-08
                                  • 3045

                                  #51
                                  what about oregon state?!
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                                  • mofome
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-19-07
                                    • 13003

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                    LOL

                                    Based on what he said, I am assuming imgv would take the Pac-10 teams in those matchups.

                                    Let me make my statement stronger by saying I would take Drake and Butler over ANY team in the Pac-10 other than UCLA (i.e., Stanford and Wasington State).


                                    ah, a different statement altogether. now we're talking.
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                                    • onlooker
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 36572

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
                                      what about oregon state?!


                                      I think even Rice could beat them.
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                                      • Wassymac
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-22-06
                                        • 1090

                                        #54
                                        This has turned out to be a pretty entertaining thread. Keep it rolling ...

                                        1) Kansas
                                        2) North Carolina
                                        3) Tennessee
                                        4) Louisville
                                        5) NJIT
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                                        • mofome
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-19-07
                                          • 13003

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                          Georgetown has what 4 losses? They are all on the road to good teams. Memphis, Louisville, Pitt, and Syracuse(not so much). They way they play gives them a great chance in the tournament, they are very patient and experienced. Its a veteran team who doesn't make too many mistakes and Hibbert can bail them out anytime they need it. They are atop the best conference in the nation, and a great team.


                                          The hoyas will be a tough out. They play efficiently on both sides of the ball. Freeman gives them the explosive type guard that they haven't had in a while, its just a matter of whether he'll be ready to perform on the big stage.
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                                          • mofome
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-19-07
                                            • 13003

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by onlòóker


                                            I think even Rice could beat them.


                                            onlooker, lt, img, lk, and dozer would be -4 on a neutral court.
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                                            • Quebb Diesel
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-26-08
                                              • 3045

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by onlòóker


                                              I think even Rice could beat them.
                                              ha ha thats a bold statement...
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                                              • 5 star bomb
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 10-12-07
                                                • 5370

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Wassymac
                                                This has turned out to be a pretty entertaining thread. Keep it rolling ...

                                                1) Kansas
                                                2) North Carolina
                                                3) Tennessee
                                                4) Louisville
                                                5) NJIT

                                                NJIT


                                                So that on ESPN last night how they are like 0-30 or something. They are from Newark. Maybe jjgold can give us some insight on his hometown team from Newark
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                                                • onlooker
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 36572

                                                  #59
                                                  New Jersey Tech is last in the RPI (341) and is 0-27.
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                                                  • Wassymac
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-22-06
                                                    • 1090

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by 5 star bomb
                                                    NJIT


                                                    So that on ESPN last night how they are like 0-30 or something. They are from Newark. Maybe jjgold can give us some insight on his hometown team from Newark
                                                    Did I say NJIT??? I meant UCLA
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                                                    • mofome
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-19-07
                                                      • 13003

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by onlòóker
                                                      New Jersey Tech is last in the RPI (341) and is 0-27.


                                                      yeah, but whats their SOS? probably top 5 all time.
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                                                      • onlooker
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 36572

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by mofome
                                                        yeah, but whats their SOS? probably top 5 all time.
                                                        318.
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                                                        • LT Profits
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Wassymac
                                                          This has turned out to be a pretty entertaining thread. Keep it rolling ...

                                                          1) Kansas
                                                          2) North Carolina
                                                          3) Tennessee
                                                          4) Louisville
                                                          5) NJIT
                                                          Yeah, I was torn between NJIT and The Citadel for my 9th spot. I do think that Jacksonville State is a clear-cut 11th though.
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                                                          • mofome
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-19-07
                                                            • 13003

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by onlòóker
                                                            318.


                                                            Not as high as i had assumed.
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                                                            • Wassymac
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-22-06
                                                              • 1090

                                                              #65
                                                              Anyone that goes 0-29 deserves mention
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                                                              • Wheell
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-11-07
                                                                • 1380

                                                                #66
                                                                OK, I've analyzed the Pac 10:

                                                                UCLA beat Davidson on a home area neutral court game, lost to Texas at home, beat Mich St. on a neutral court game.

                                                                Wash st. beat Baylor and Gonzaga, both on the road.

                                                                Stanford has played a soft non-conference schedule with a win at Texas Tech being their only good non-com game.

                                                                USC beat southern ill on the road, beat oklahoma at home, lost to kansas at home and lost at memphis.

                                                                Arizona St: beat Xavier at home, lost at St Mary's and at Nebraska.

                                                                Arizona has losses to Kansas and Memphis, wins vs. Texas A&M and Illinois.

                                                                Cal beat Missouri and lost to Kansas St.

                                                                Oregon beat Kansas St., lost to St. Mary's and Nebraska.

                                                                Washington lost to Syracuse, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma St.

                                                                Oregon St. hasn't played a good non-con game... for good reason.

                                                                Overall I have the pac 10 at 12-13 vs. quality opposition. Not great but not shameful either. I'd have to say that the Pac 10 probably deserves 5 bids without much discussion, and only Oregon St. can be written off for dead.
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                                                                • Wassymac
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-22-06
                                                                  • 1090

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Wheell

                                                                  USC beat southern ill on the road, beat oklahoma at home, lost to kansas at home and lost at memphis.
                                                                  I believe that SIU game was on a neutral court in Southern California.
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                                                                  • onlooker
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                                    • 36572

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Wheell
                                                                    Arizona has losses to Kansas and Memphis, wins vs. Texas A&M and Illinois.
                                                                    Won at UNLV in last minute or 2 of game, and if I am not mistaking, had big comebacks to beat A&M and Illinois as well.

                                                                    Yes I know a win is a win, but they did struggle.
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                                                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-17-07
                                                                      • 52143

                                                                      #69
                                                                      I think they deserve 3 bids
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                                                                      • mofome
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-19-07
                                                                        • 13003

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Wheell
                                                                        OK, I've analyzed the Pac 10:

                                                                        UCLA beat Davidson on a home area neutral court game, lost to Texas at home, beat Mich St. on a neutral court game.

                                                                        Wash st. beat Baylor and Gonzaga, both on the road.

                                                                        Stanford has played a soft non-conference schedule with a win at Texas Tech being their only good non-com game.

                                                                        USC beat southern ill on the road, beat oklahoma at home, lost to kansas at home and lost at memphis.

                                                                        Arizona St: beat Xavier at home, lost at St Mary's and at Nebraska.

                                                                        Arizona has losses to Kansas and Memphis, wins vs. Texas A&M and Illinois.

                                                                        Cal beat Missouri and lost to Kansas St.

                                                                        Oregon beat Kansas St., lost to St. Mary's and Nebraska.

                                                                        Washington lost to Syracuse, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma St.

                                                                        Oregon St. hasn't played a good non-con game... for good reason.

                                                                        Overall I have the pac 10 at 12-13 vs. quality opposition. Not great but not shameful either. I'd have to say that the Pac 10 probably deserves 5 bids without much discussion, and only Oregon St. can be written off for dead.


                                                                        If you analyzed a bit further you would see that USC didn't beat S ill on the road. In fact, the game was played in California i do believe. A bit closer to USCs campus than that of S Ill. I'll leave the rest alone.
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