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  • mofome
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    • 12-19-07
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    #1
    Worst organization in the NFL: Washington or Oakland?
    each of these teams are a complete joke, which is worse?
  • 5 star bomb
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    • 10-12-07
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    #2
    Oakland by far not even close
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    • Deuce
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      • 01-12-08
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      #3
      Detroit Lions

      They have won 1 playoff game in NFL team history.
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      • buztah
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        • 03-23-07
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        #4
        New York Jets. They don't even respect their fans enough to have their own stadium.
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        • area51steve
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          • 06-01-07
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          #5
          raiders.. how are you gonna give randy moss away for a late round draft pick.. The lions will win a super bowl before the raiders do.
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          • Deuce
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            #6
            Originally posted by area51steve
            raiders.. how are you gonna give randy moss away for a late round draft pick.. The lions will win a super bowl before the raiders do.
            No.
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            • brock
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              • 01-07-08
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              #7
              Id say Lions over Oak and Wash
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              • Deuce
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                #8
                Originally posted by brock
                Id say Lions over Oak and Wash
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                • 5 star bomb
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                  • 10-12-07
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                  #9
                  Jason Campbell will be a legit franchise QB which automatically takes them out of being the worst. I think he is going to be a star in the NFL. He needs some better wrs
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                  • brock
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                    • 01-07-08
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by 5 star bomb
                    Oakland by far not even close
                    If its just between Oak and wash id say Oak
                    Al davis needs to go away
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                    • mofome
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                      • 12-19-07
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                      #11
                      snyder and vinnie? come on, these guys are the laughing stock of the league. sure they have had some decent players fall in their lap, but overall this organization is disgusting. there is one team projected to be over the 2008 cap, its the skins. they are over by more than 20 million.

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                      • Deuce
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                        #12
                        William Clay Ford and Matt Millen are laughing stocks of the league. The Skins have won a Superbowl as well as the Raiders.

                        The Lions hands down are the worst. They haven't won the NFC Central since 1993. Hell, last time they came into second in the division was 95. They are 488-556-32 all time boys. They have never beat the Skins in Washington in the history of both franchises. This team is dismal and the Fords don't care. They are still selling out every game.
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                        • 5 star bomb
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mofome
                          snyder and vinnie? come on, these guys are the laughing stock of the league. sure they have had some decent players fall in their lap, but overall this organization is disgusting. there is one team projected to be over the 2008 cap, its the skins. they are over by more than 20 million.


                          yeah he has tried to buy a superbowl for a while. I remember when he got Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, etc etc etc.... I cant even remember all the players he has paid for thinking it would take them to the top. Yeah financially he has not done a good job with the Skins at all...
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                          • Deuce
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                            #14
                            The Lions ruin players to. Barry Sanders is the most popular obviously. He could have bashed the leagues records but decided to cut it quits early because the team was so awful. Just recently, Fernando Bryant went from a star to bust. Sean Rogers...bust. Roy Williams...mediocre, Charles Rogers...bust. Mike Williams...bust. All those boys were All American caliber in college. They came to Detroit and were ruined. Dismal.
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                            • mofome
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                              • 12-19-07
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by 5 star bomb
                              yeah he has tried to buy a superbowl for a while. I remember when he got Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, etc etc etc.... I cant even remember all the players he has paid for thinking it would take them to the top. Yeah financially he has not done a good job with the Skins at all...


                              i cant believe the players wanted williams and saunders and he lets both go after all that happened last year. he preached about how things were going to change and he was gonna keep things 'in the family'. if dan snyder is beat to death sometime soon, dont be surprised if you dont see my name on the forums anymore.
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                              • mofome
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                                • 12-19-07
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Deuce
                                The Lions ruin players to. Barry Sanders is the most popular obviously. He could have bashed the leagues records but decided to cut it quits early because the team was so awful. Just recently, Fernando Bryant went from a star to bust. Sean Rogers...bust. Roy Williams...mediocre, Charles Rogers...bust. Mike Williams...bust. All those boys were All American caliber in college. They came to Detroit and were ruined. Dismal.


                                desmond howard
                                rod gardner
                                mike westbrook

                                3 recent all-american wr, first round picks for the skins. some of the worst picks ever. thats strictly talking wrs.

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                                • area51steve
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                                  • 06-01-07
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Deuce
                                  William Clay Ford and Matt Millen are laughing stocks of the league. The Skins have won a Superbowl as well as the Raiders.

                                  The Lions hands down are the worst. They haven't won the NFC Central since 1993. Hell, last time they came into second in the division was 95. They are 488-556-32 all time boys. They have never beat the Skins in Washington in the history of both franchises. This team is dismal and the Fords don't care. They are still selling out every game.
                                  The lions sell out every game because the fans stay true to their team even through the worst.. Can't say the same thing for most giants fans the way they ripped eli and sold tickets to patriots fans for the final game of the regular season. It's no secret that matt millen and the Fords need to be outta there.. Thats a big reason the lions are who they are today. But make no mistake they made progress this year going 8-8.. If they can draft some good defensive players and have some key off season signings and trades, you may very see the lions in the playoffs next season..
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                                  • SHAWN GOTTI
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                                    • 01-28-08
                                    • 165

                                    #18
                                    ID SAY OAK!
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                                    • Bigcrank23
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                                      • 11-14-06
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mofome
                                      i cant believe the players wanted williams and saunders and he lets both go after all that happened last year. he preached about how things were going to change and he was gonna keep things 'in the family'. if dan snyder is beat to death sometime soon, dont be surprised if you dont see my name on the forums anymore.
                                      I'll join you in that lynching anyday mofo...thats right Tiger I said lynch This guy is trying to play fantasy football with the skins. Cant wait to see what over priced, past his prime free agent he goes after this year
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                                      • purecarnagge
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                                        • 10-05-07
                                        • 4843

                                        #20
                                        While I hate the detrot lions, I'm sorry I really think matt milan has moved from being one of the worst gms in the league to a c- gm. He didn't get fired before he won't get fired now.

                                        Al Davis just doesn't understand the sport/salary issues anymore. It takes at least 2-3 years to turn a franchies around. Its not instant. He's had 5 coaches in 7 years... he is notoriously cheap on coaching, yet demands wins... Coaching = wins. They go super cheap on asst and cordinators and position coaches... Its a joke.

                                        Washington at least the owner pays to get talent/stadium, and the tailgating ain't bad. Washington is far from the worst franchise in the league but its not midway or upper half. But it aint the worst.

                                        Post young 49ers suck
                                        lions suck
                                        jets suck
                                        raiders suck
                                        dolphins suck
                                        Bills suck
                                        Rams suck
                                        cardinals suck

                                        This is a what have you done for me lately team. Joe Gibbs is a legend, and he turned that team around for a 2nd time. They are a playoff team this year, and they are the worst int he league? They have crazy owners and management doens't mean they are the worst.
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                                        • Wrigley
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                                          • 12-28-07
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                                          #21
                                          Oakland
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                                          • Seattle Slew
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                                            • 01-02-06
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                                            #22
                                            I'd say Oakland. Hard to believe Davis has gotten so bad.
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                                            • pavyracer
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                                              • 04-12-07
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                                              #23
                                              If I'm not mistaken Redskins is the only franchise worth more than a billion dollars. For that they can't be worse than Oakland.
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                                              • stump
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                                                • 09-14-05
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                                                #24
                                                raiders
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                                                • Poker_Beast
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                                                  • 09-14-06
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                                                  #25
                                                  Oakland!
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                                                  • mofome
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                                                    • 12-19-07
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                    If I'm not mistaken Redskins is the only franchise worth more than a billion dollars. For that they can't be worse than Oakland.


                                                    they are worth a lot thats for sure, but their football operations are run by complete idiots. its awful. the nfl laughs at the skins.
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                                                    • bigboydan
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                                                      • 08-10-05
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                                                      #27
                                                      gotta be the lions in the NFL
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                                                      • Deuce
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by bigboydan
                                                        gotta be the lions in the NFL
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                                                        • Cee
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                                                          • 12-24-07
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                                                          #29
                                                          Oakland, Al Davis doesn't know dick
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                                                          • gridiron guru
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                                                            • 02-21-07
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                                                            #30
                                                            I would have to say its the Detroit Lions even tho i love the city downtown area
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                                                            • swede96
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                                                              • 12-05-07
                                                              • 3875

                                                              #31
                                                              I'm going with the Raiders based on the fact that every Oakland fan I know is STILL crying about that ****ing tuck rule call. Losing games is one thing....whinning about it for years to come is just plain sad. Especially when that call wasn't the end all of the game.

                                                              BUT, I still need to send them a thank you card for our beloved Randy.
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                                                              • zerocage
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                                                                • 08-29-06
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                                                                #32
                                                                Oakland. And will be as long as Al Davis is in charge!
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                                                                • Sportsgirl
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                                                                  • 09-10-06
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Anything will Al Davis in it is the worst thing ever. Oakland without even a close second.
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                                                                  • Louisvillekid1
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                                                                    • 10-17-07
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Well, the skins just made the playoffs and the raiders are going to have 4 coaches in 4 years...

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                                                                    • The Seer
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                                                                      • 10-29-07
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Well since The Raiders & Skins have won SB before, I have to say Detroit is the wost. But I'll say that trading Jon Gruden to Tampa for draft picks was a mistake that the Raiders haven't recovered from.
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