Shari's evaluation of Brock's Rubberband record

[shari91]

Today, with Brock's agreement I am doing my own research into his Rubberband record and will post my findings here. In order to stop the constant issues that arise whenever he posts a Rubberband play, he has agreed to amend his record should I determine that he may have mistated, either lower or higher, the record in his signature.

Brockalicious, if I have time between tennis matches tonight I'm going to go through and compile your record for your rubberband plays. I think most people who know me well on here would say that I'm an honest kind of gal. Maybe givemeabj missed some or maybe you just forgot to update your record. But if I come up with your record being off, for better or worse, you should really change it just to put all this nonsense talk about your record to rest.

sounds good go back to 2008

I will.

His Rubberband plays started on 10/10/08 and I am now up to February '10 so will be done shortly and have used the words 'rubberband' and 'rubber band' to conduct my search so as not to omit anything. If it appears I'm a day off with any of my dates, please keep in mind I'm a day ahead of you here in Australia and that's the date and time stamp that appears to me on the posts.

[ZetaPsi808]

i love when brock posts these plays. whether they win or lose it gets the whole forum involved.

[flyingillini]

I am looking to hear what you have to say about them. I see them but often don't tail them. Brock at one time was given his own day at SBR. This went straight to his EGO and bragged about this to family and friends. SBR mean a lot to certain people but his Rubber Band Plays keep him going weekly. It's what he needs to do to stay sane. He is a good midwestern boy that means no harm or foul. He just gets involved in his own hype at times. He is good guy over all, I think. Brock, I want a rubber band play for tomorrow!

[MonkeyF0cker]

This should be interesting.

[rdo37]

The only plays that brock puts out that I tail are the Big Ten Basketball plays...

[KingKolzig]

i never doubted his record. i dont think he would have the balls to lie, someone would be all over it. i bet u find its exactly like he states

[MonkeyF0cker]

i never doubted his record. i dont think he would have the balls to lie, someone would be all over it. i bet u find its exactly like he states

You overestimate his intelligence.

[KingKolzig]

You overestimate his intelligence.

lol. so u think his record will be off. we will c

[obamaismyuncle]

His record is way off, at least 10 games in his favor..he didn't even add the loss yesterday to his record..Brock couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat..

[Hotdiggity11]

Uh oh, this could get interesting. Good luck Shari.

[jjgold]

I will tell you one thing Shari does not miss anything here so I hope Brock does not dispute here

She is thorough, well read and relentless which is scary combo

You cannot win against Shari, I have tried and failed.

[Cuse0323]

Well this should prove it either way once and for all, sounds good to me.

[konck]

Results please

[konck]

can we have an update

[jjgold]

It must take time

Lets relax

[poker_dummy101]

i know for a fact its off

rdo..most lines moved against him in NCAABB last year and he won... so i wouldnt look for his winning to continue

[shari91]

Almost done. Just rechecking everything now to ensure I haven't made an error.

[shari91]

If you just want the result, skip directly to the end of this post.

10/10/08: NCAAF NW/MSU Over 46.5 WINNER

10/17/08 NCAAF Ohio State ML WINNER

10/25/08 Two Rubberband plays: NCAAF Minnesota -1 1/2 WINNER
NCAAF Alabama ML WINNER


So far so good at 4-0 but on 10/25/08, Brock posted this and referred to a previous Texas play as a Rubberband winner.

A quick recap of my last Rubberband plays Northwestern/Michigan St OVER 47, won easily! Ohio st -3 at Michigan St, WON EASILY Texas -4 at home Vs missouri WON EASILY This week, Minnesota -1 1/2 and Alabama Money Line GET SOME!!

However on 10/19/08 in the thread where he originally posted the Texas play, he merely referred to it as HUGE and stated in the title he had one RB play: Ohio State.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/108519-4-games-love-saturday-including-one-rubberband-game.html

He does not refer to Texas as a RB play at any time until in the thread the week later so for my purposes, Texas does not count as a RB play and his record to 10/25/08 is 4-0.

10/30/08: Things get a bit confusing here again as Brock now refers to his 6-0 RB record although no plays were posted after 10/25 until 10/30. He is obviously counting Texas (which I have negated) but I'm not sure where the 6th one comes from.

You all know I am a perfect 100% 6-0 on rubberband plays, and a very respectible 17-6 overall this month in College football...

Nevertheless, he is still 4-0 as far as my record-keeping is concerned.

10/30/08: Two Rubberband plays: NCAAF Minnesota -6.5 LOSS
NCAAF Texas -4 LOSS

11/01/08 NCAAF Alabama ML WINNER

11/12/08 NCAAF CMU/NIU Over 49 WINNER

He was now referring to an 8-2 record, but I can only confirm a 6-2 record to this point. Let's continue...

11/15/08 Two Rubberband plays: NCAAF Florida over 49 WINNER
NCAAF Florida State ML LOSS

11/22/08 NCAAF Northwestern +3 WINNER

12/07/08 Brock now refers to a 10-3 RB record but I have him as 8-3 to this point. Even if I counted the Texas Huge play, I would only be able to vouch for 9-3.

A first for me in College hoops, those that follow me know my Rubberband plays were a solid 10-3 in College Football... Tonight we have WASHINGTON ST MONEY LINE As a rubberband play! Empty your wallets here boys, this play will make you cash!!

12/07/08 NCAAB Washington State ML LOSS

There is then a 4 month break until 03/05/09. He is currently 8-4, 67%.


03/05/09 NCAAB Wichita State -3.5 WINNER

03/12/09 Things go a bit astray again as seen by this exchange.

what is the rubber band record this year in college hoops? what was in college foots? like 8-3? pretty impressive

Its 5-1 in college hoops... was 11-3 in College football

ohhh good then I thought it was terrible in hoops and good in football didn't want it to be jinxed from the start (already has 85% of public on it)

As he stated on 12/07/08, this was his first college basketball RB play.

A first for me in College hoops, those that follow me know my Rubberband plays were a solid 10-3 in College Football...

He then confirms on 03/05/09 that he did indeed take a break from RB plays as I mentioned above.

You guys know i don't release these plays very often or on a whim, but this is for all who want to make serious money tonight.

not one rubberband play got me in a hole...look back at last fall, its been that long since i gave one out.

I am unsure where the 5-1 NCAAB Rubberband record is gathered from nor can I confirm the 11-3 NCAAF Rubberband record. At this point I have him at a combined 9-4.

03/12/09 NCAAB Washington -5.5 WINNER

03/13/09 Brock refers to his 6-1 Rubberband record for the year, which I assume he means NCAAB although as I stated above, I can only verify a 2-1 record in NCAAB, a 10-4 record combined.

03/13/09: Two Rubberband plays: NCAAB LSU -1.5 WINNER
NCAAB Michigan +2.5 LOSS

03/23/09 Brock refers to being 8-2 in his rubberband plays for the year.

Hey Fellas, Was away on vacation for the last week or so and it was actually nice to be away frmo a computer for so long, but i spotted the PLAY OF THE YEAR in NCAA Hoops on Thursday March 26th! 8-2 in my Rubberband plays, but this is considered better than that, one single play, 2 rubberbands needs for the cash.. MEMPHIS -4 1/2 Lock N Load boys...You'll be knockin on heavens door at the end of it. GOOD LUCK!

03/26/09 NCAAB Memphis -4.5 LOSS

04/26/09 While not an official Rubberband play, this was his Play of the Year in MLB. Since he used the word 'rubberband' later in the thread, I will count it.

Reds/Braves over 9.5 WINNER

There is then almost a year long break from Rubberband plays. At this point his record according to me was 12-6, 67%.

02/07/10 NFL Saints +5.5 WINNER

02/13/10 NCAAB Indiana State -2.5 WINNER

According to my findings, his record as of 02/13/10 is now 14-6 or a great 70%! However, Brock doesn't agree with me.

salud boys rubberband plays hit at a documented 85% clip. thats why the pop up so infrequently. congrats men!

02/20/10 He still doesn't agree with me and somehow has calculated an increased 5% in that week span despite not posting another Rubberband play in that time.

Wake Forest -2 *RUBBERBAND PLAY* LOCK N LOAD BOYS! You know when to load up, Rubberband plays hit at OVER 90% lifetime, don't believe me, look it up.

02/20/10 NCAAB Wake Forest -2 LOSS

03/06/10 NCAAB Baylor -3 WINNER

He is now 15-7, 68% according to my findings. After this winner he stated

WINNER!!! Documented OVER 85% winners with Rubber band plays!!

But then on 03/19/10, the day of his next Rubberband play his record has somehow increased by 2%.

These hit at a DOCUMENTED 87%!!! The BEST play I see on the board in the 1st 2 days is... TEXAS A & M -3 The Aggies will roll here, Utah St plays ZERO defense and will be overwhelmed. GOOD LUCK and you all who follow who the strength of these RUBBER BAND plays! SALUD!

03/19/10 NCAAB Texas A&M -3 WINNER

03/20/10 NCAAB Baylor -4 WINNER

03/21/10 NCAAB Texas A&M -1.5 LOSS

03/29/10 NCAAB Kansas State ML LOSS

04/01/10 NBA Utah 2H under 113 WINNER

04/02/10 NCAAB Dayton -3 WINNER

04/02/10 As of this date, I have Brock's record at 19-9 or 68% broken down to 8-3 in NCAAF, 8-6 in NCAAB, 1-0 in NFL, 1-0 in MLB and 1-0 in NBA.

Brock however feels differently on this date. I can only assume that he has started to add some of his 'huge' or 'big' plays into his numbers or has made a mistake with his calculations. I have not, however, looked into the record of any of his other posted plays. Only those titled 'Rubberband' or 'Rubber Band'.

As you all know, and i've gone through the records...RUBBER BAND plays are 25/30 overall (83%), but just in college hoops, they are 20/23 (87%)...did the official numbers from all the posts here in SBR going back to 2008

04/02/10 NCAAB Butler -1.5 WINNER

04/06/20 NCAAB Butler +7 WINNER

04/07/10 MLB St Louis/Reds over 8 WINNER

04/09/10 Yeah, well, I must admit I'm beyond confused now. Brock states he is 31/36 with most of those plays being NCAAB despite him only posting 3 plays since the 7 days before where he said he had only made 30 plays.

these are hitting 31/36 all time now, all mixed with baseball, college football and mostly college hoops GET SOME BOYS!!

04/09/10 MLB Detroit WINNER

04/13/10 Two Rubberband plays: MLB Toronto WINNER
MLB Rockies/Mets over 10.5 WINNER

04/16/10 MLB Rangers/Yankees over 8.5 PUSH (game was rained out before it could be declared completed)

04/17/10 MLB Oakland RL LOSS

04/21/09 MLB Reds/Dodgers over 8.5 WINNER

04/23/10 MLB Dodgers/Nats over 10 LOSS

04/27/10 MLB Yankees LOSS

04/30/10 NBA Utah -4.5 WINNER

05/15/10 MLB Cardinals LOSS

05/25/10 MLB Tigers LOSS

05/30/10 MLB Marlin/Phillies Under 9.5 WINNER. He is now 28-14 or 67%.

06/01/10 MLB Yankees/Orioles Over 10 LOSS

06/18/10 MLB Angels/Cubs Over 11.5 WINNER

06/19/10 MLB Texas/Astros Over 9 LOSS

07/02/10 At this point Brock refers to his 76% record. I however now have him at 29-16 or 64% before his Rubberband play on this day.

Anyway what we've got here is...a RUBBER BAND PLAY FOR YOU all 76% winners with these plays as you all know.. TORONTO/NY YANKEES OVER 9 1/2 (LIST CECIL AND BURNETT)

07/02/10 MLB Toronto/Yankees Over 9.5 LOSS

07/09/10 CFL Winnipeg -11 LOSS

07/22/10 MLB Cardinals WINNER

08/05/10 MLB Texas/Seattle Over 6.5 LOSS

This brings me to an all-time total of 30-19 or 61% of Brock's posted Rubberband plays, including the 04/26/09 Reds/Braves MLB Play of the Year for which I attributed him with the win.

[tunaguitar76]

do you do taxes?


61% is still pretty damn good.

[shari91]

do you do taxes? 61% is still pretty damn good.

61% is awesome!! I however felt his threads kept getting sidetracked by people hassling him about his record and thought maybe we could clear this up once and for all so he could just focus on putting out his plays!

[KingKolzig]

5 wins 10 losses in his last 15, that killed him. hes an average capper after that run

[mrmarket]

Of course his record his fudged but what does it matter. It's not like he's unique in doing in. And if you couldn't figure it out by yourself you're bound to lose your money tailing some other capper anyway.

[jjgold]

I think he has tailed off as we can see by Shari's excellent audit
Here is how you keep records Brock

[poker_dummy101]

what does all this mean?

1. dont trust a guy who loses 90k in gambling

2. variance happens

[Brock Landers]

as we can see, there is SOME dispute....if i take the LOWER end of her numbers i am still hitting at 61%, my records indicate, and they are updated after last night's loss, 73%...

Nice Job Shari

[poker_dummy101]

61% but lets not forget how many moneyline favorites in baseball lost

[poker_dummy101]

brock she has 19 posts of rubberband plays that lost and yet you still think you only have 15 losses?

where did those 10 other wins come from brock?

[will2survive]

I'm starting to think that these plays should be faded--Brock's a 61 percent cold fish who's been missing a lot more than hitting latelySALUD

[jjgold]

Shari does not make mistakes Brock

Brock forget baseball totals completely, many say they are sucker bets anyway

Brock no steroids =unders if your going to make a play

[sneak-a-peak]

Its still a very nice record!

There's a big difference between 73% and 61% so Brock how in the heck is there such a huge variance been the two?

[blackbeSSt]

brockly's winning % of 73 is almost as believable as his ripping off the credit union for $1000. BOTH ARE CRAP.

but props for hitting a true 61%

[will2survive]

It is a nice record but saying that you're 73 percent and not 61 percent is lying

[blackbeSSt]

It is a nice record but saying that you're 73 percent and not 61 percent is lying

have you read 99% of brocks threads?

[TodaysAction]

If you just want the result, skip directly to the end of this post.

10/10/08: NCAAF NW/MSU Over 46.5 WINNER

10/17/08 NCAAF Ohio State ML WINNER

10/25/08 Two Rubberband plays: NCAAF Minnesota -1 1/2 WINNER
NCAAF Alabama ML WINNER


So far so good at 4-0 but on 10/25/08, Brock posted this and referred to a previous Texas play as a Rubberband winner.



However on 10/19/08 in the thread where he originally posted the Texas play, he merely referred to it as HUGE and stated in the title he had one RB play: Ohio State.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/108519-4-games-love-saturday-including-one-rubberband-game.html

He does not refer to Texas as a RB play at any time until in the thread the week later so for my purposes, Texas does not count as a RB play and his record to 10/25/08 is 4-0.

10/30/08: Things get a bit confusing here again as Brock now refers to his 6-0 RB record although no plays were posted after 10/25 until 10/30. He is obviously counting Texas (which I have negated) but I'm not sure where the 6th one comes from.



Nevertheless, he is still 4-0 as far as my record-keeping is concerned.

10/30/08: Two Rubberband plays: NCAAF Minnesota -6.5 LOSS
NCAAF Texas -4 LOSS

11/01/08 NCAAF Alabama ML WINNER

11/12/08 NCAAF CMU/NIU Over 49 WINNER

He was now referring to an 8-2 record, but I can only confirm a 6-2 record to this point. Let's continue...

11/15/08 Two Rubberband plays: NCAAF Florida over 49 WINNER
NCAAF Florida State ML LOSS

11/22/08 NCAAF Northwestern +3 WINNER

12/07/08 Brock now refers to a 10-3 RB record but I have him as 8-3 to this point. Even if I counted the Texas Huge play, I would only be able to vouch for 9-3.



12/07/08 NCAAB Washington State ML LOSS

There is then a 4 month break until 03/05/09. He is currently 8-4, 67%.


03/05/09 NCAAB Wichita State -3.5 WINNER

03/12/09 Things go a bit astray again as seen by this exchange.





As he stated on 12/07/08, this was his first college basketball RB play.

He then confirms on 03/05/09 that he did indeed take a break from RB plays as I mentioned above.




I am unsure where the 5-1 NCAAB Rubberband record is gathered from nor can I confirm the 11-3 NCAAF Rubberband record. At this point I have him at a combined 9-4.

03/12/09 NCAAB Washington -5.5 WINNER

03/13/09 Brock refers to his 6-1 Rubberband record for the year, which I assume he means NCAAB although as I stated above, I can only verify a 2-1 record in NCAAB, a 10-4 record combined.

03/13/09: Two Rubberband plays: NCAAB LSU -1.5 WINNER
NCAAB Michigan +2.5 LOSS

03/23/09 Brock refers to being 8-2 in his rubberband plays for the year.



03/26/09 NCAAB Memphis -4.5 LOSS

04/26/09 While not an official Rubberband play, this was his Play of the Year in MLB. Since he used the word 'rubberband' later in the thread, I will count it.

Reds/Braves over 9.5 WINNER

There is then almost a year long break from Rubberband plays. At this point his record according to me was 12-6, 67%.

02/07/10 NFL Saints +5.5 WINNER

02/13/10 NCAAB Indiana State -2.5 WINNER

According to my findings, his record as of 02/13/10 is now 14-6 or a great 70%! However, Brock doesn't agree with me.



02/20/10 He still doesn't agree with me and somehow has calculated an increased 5% in that week span despite not posting another Rubberband play in that time.



02/20/10 NCAAB Wake Forest -2 LOSS

03/06/10 NCAAB Baylor -3 WINNER

He is now 15-7, 68% according to my findings. After this winner he stated

But then on 03/19/10, the day of his next Rubberband play his record has somehow increased by 2%.



03/19/10 NCAAB Texas A&M -3 WINNER

03/20/10 NCAAB Baylor -4 WINNER

03/21/10 NCAAB Texas A&M -1.5 LOSS

03/29/10 NCAAB Kansas State ML LOSS

04/01/10 NBA Utah 2H under 113 WINNER

04/02/10 NCAAB Dayton -3 WINNER

04/02/10 As of this date, I have Brock's record at 19-9 or 68% broken down to 8-3 in NCAAF, 8-6 in NCAAB, 1-0 in NFL, 1-0 in MLB and 1-0 in NBA.

Brock however feels differently on this date. I can only assume that he has started to add some of his 'huge' or 'big' plays into his numbers or has made a mistake with his calculations. I have not, however, looked into the record of any of his other posted plays. Only those titled 'Rubberband' or 'Rubber Band'.


04/02/10 NCAAB Butler -1.5 WINNER

04/06/20 NCAAB Butler +7 WINNER

04/07/10 MLB St Louis/Reds over 8 WINNER

04/09/10 Yeah, well, I must admit I'm beyond confused now. Brock states he is 31/36 with most of those plays being NCAAB despite him only posting 3 plays since the 7 days before where he said he had only made 30 plays.


04/09/10 MLB Detroit WINNER

04/13/10 Two Rubberband plays: MLB Toronto WINNER
MLB Rockies/Mets over 10.5 WINNER

04/16/10 MLB Rangers/Yankees over 8.5 PUSH (game was rained out before it could be declared completed)

04/17/10 MLB Oakland RL LOSS

04/21/09 MLB Reds/Dodgers over 8.5 WINNER

04/23/10 MLB Dodgers/Nats over 10 LOSS

04/27/10 MLB Yankees LOSS

04/30/10 NBA Utah -4.5 WINNER

05/15/10 MLB Cardinals LOSS

05/25/10 MLB Tigers LOSS

05/30/10 MLB Marlin/Phillies Under 9.5 WINNER. He is now 28-14 or 67%.

06/01/10 MLB Yankees/Orioles Over 10 LOSS

06/18/10 MLB Angels/Cubs Over 11.5 WINNER

06/19/10 MLB Texas/Astros Over 9 LOSS

07/02/10 At this point Brock refers to his 76% record. I however now have him at 29-16 or 64% before his Rubberband play on this day.



07/02/10 MLB Toronto/Yankees Over 9.5 LOSS

07/09/10 CFL Winnipeg -11 LOSS

07/22/10 MLB Cardinals WINNER

08/05/10 MLB Texas/Seattle Over 6.5 LOSS

This brings me to an all-time total of 30-19 or 61% of Brock's posted Rubberband plays, including the 04/26/09 Reds/Braves MLB Play of the Year for which I attributed him with the win.

Thanks for compiling this. Hopefully, this record garbage will no longer be an issue.

[sickler]

Soooooooo.......did Brock get caught telling liars?