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  • Jamie_UK
    SBR MVP
    • 01-12-07
    • 1103

    #36
    Originally posted by Bill Dozer
    BJO says they are happy to invest some of their budget in victims and make a contribution to the industry out of the gate. They feel that they are doing something great while showing how they pay.

    They have to be careful that after they flex some financial muscles because the smart players will give them a try. They state they are in an acquisition/branding mode right now and are aware that they are in a losing proposition. They will need to show some kind of long term plan and viable business model before climbing through the ranks. Right now they are set up to feed sharps who won't stay when the buffet is over.
    Exactly , and they will fail.
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    • ShamsWoof10
      SBR MVP
      • 11-15-06
      • 4827

      #37
      Originally posted by Jamie_UK
      Pinny do a pro job at managing their lines, I spend a huge amount of time watching the dynamic lines against other books, they do take educated money and switch the line, but they also take scalper/whore money which is simply money that is placed against books who are slow to change. They are only interested in managing a balanced book, and they do it VERY well. I make bets that change the dynamic lines at Pinny every day, I'm not sharp, i'm just a whore/scalper/arber, believe me its all weight of money.
      I know you are that's why you should know... Pinny. takes arb money for a reason... They know it arbs and sometimes they still don't move it... They know it's out there... That side does not "usually" win.. If it did they wouldn't take it and if "sharp" money was on the other side then they would get PLASTERED!!!... I did it for two years back in 02-04 and I NEVER ...NOT ONCE had to requested a payout from Pinny... It was ALWAYS the other books... ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • moonbeam
        SBR MVP
        • 03-02-07
        • 1496

        #38
        it was always at pinny for me...
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        • BigBollocks
          SBR MVP
          • 06-11-06
          • 2045

          #39
          Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
          I know you are that's why you should know... Pinny. takes arb money for a reason... They know it arbs and sometimes they still don't move it... They know it's out there... That side does not "usually" win.. If it did they wouldn't take it and if "sharp" money was on the other side then they would get PLASTERED!!!... I did it for two years back in 02-04 and I NEVER ...NOT ONCE had to requested a payout from Pinny... It was ALWAYS the other books... ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


          You give him way too much credit. He's a two bit smalltimer, and would have no reason to know which side hits more often. Your absolutely right about Pinny of course...
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          • ShamsWoof10
            SBR MVP
            • 11-15-06
            • 4827

            #40
            Originally posted by BigBollocks
            You give him way too much credit. He's a two bit smalltimer, and would have no reason to know which side hits more often. Your absolutely right about Pinny of course...
            Thank you... I did notice your post about him above... Let me know when you get those transcripts...

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            • Jamie_UK
              SBR MVP
              • 01-12-07
              • 1103

              #41
              Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
              I know you are that's why you should know... Pinny. takes arb money for a reason... They know it arbs and sometimes they still don't move it... They know it's out there... That side does not "usually" win.. If it did they wouldn't take it and if "sharp" money was on the other side then they would get PLASTERED!!!... I did it for two years back in 02-04 and I NEVER ...NOT ONCE had to requested a payout from Pinny... It was ALWAYS the other books... ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              OK , what they do is adjust the line to encourage money from people like me, but its all to do with managing the lines and create a balanced book, you would be surprised how little money it takes to change some lines at Pinny.

              Take an example like Cris who do 1.91 @ 4.5 , pinny will move to 2.06 (on 4.5) and drop the line to 4 @ 1.95, still overround but small enough to attract whore money, you can bet $1000 @ 2.06 and change the line to < 2.04, I do it every day.

              Its not opinion.
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              • ShamsWoof10
                SBR MVP
                • 11-15-06
                • 4827

                #42
                Originally posted by Jamie_UK
                OK , what they do is adjust the line to encourage money from people like me, but its all to do with managing the lines and create a balanced book, you would be surprised how little money it takes to change some lines at Pinny.

                Take an example like Cris who do 1.91 @ 4.5 , pinny will move to 2.06 and drop the line to 4 @ 1.95, still overround but small enough to attract whore money, you can bet $1000 @ 2.06 and change the line to < 2.04, I do it every day.

                Its not opinion.
                Yes it is an opinion.. You are like my one friend who plays on credit... He thinks he has the sole power to move lines... Yank...think about it for a minute.. If 2K-5K moves a line then how much do you think a BIG book takes on a game..? It's likely in the several hundred thousand so the line would look like a pinball machine... Lines do not constantely jump around everytime a decent sized bet is placed...

                I remember on serveral occasions I would place a large arb bet at Pinny. at +107 and it would move to +111 AFTER I just placed it... I knew the Pinny. side was a loser for sure then and I would go play the other side at another book at a better price (besides the arb)...

                Just a little common sense Yank... It's all it takes...

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                • Jamie_UK
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-12-07
                  • 1103

                  #43
                  You are like my one friend
                  Awww , just one friend
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                  • Jamie_UK
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-12-07
                    • 1103

                    #44
                    Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                    Yes it is an opinion.. You are like my one friend who plays on credit... He thinks he has the sole power to move lines... Yank...think about it for a minute.. If 2K-5K moves a line then how much do you think a BIG book takes on a game..? It's likely in the several hundred thousand so the line would look like a pinball machine... Lines do not constantely jump around everytime a decent sized bet is placed...

                    I remember on serveral occasions I would place a large arb bet at Pinny. at +107 and it would move to +111 AFTER I just placed it... I knew the Pinny. side was a loser for sure then and I would go play the other side at another book at a better price (besides the arb)...

                    Just a little common sense Yank... It's all it takes...

                    Your a punter, and you believe in punters myths.
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                    • ShamsWoof10
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-15-06
                      • 4827

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Jamie_UK
                      Awww , just one friend
                      That plays on credit and thinks he's god with the lines like you... yeah just one friend.. Thank god too... More then one of you is too much...

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                      • Jamie_UK
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-12-07
                        • 1103

                        #46
                        Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                        That plays on credit and thinks he's god with the lines like you... yeah just one friend.. Thank god too... More then one of you is too much...

                        lol, your aright, i'll be your friend
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                        • moonbeam
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-02-07
                          • 1496

                          #47
                          why are you using a girl with so ugly american boobs
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                          • thebigguy
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 12-12-07
                            • 279

                            #48
                            Yes Jamie you could have done much better

                            Pick up your game.

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                            • katstale
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-07-07
                              • 3924

                              #49
                              Back to the BJO. I got from earlier in the thread that they allow up to 2k bet via the internet. What is the max bonus allowed for the 10%? Also, anybody got a clue as to the rollover? i couldn't find this on the site and the live chat seems to be only for poker questions.
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                              • BrentCrude
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-16-05
                                • 4665

                                #50
                                Shamswolf,I got an e-mail saying they would give me $100 if I deposit $50.It's good till the 13th at 6 P.M eastern.I think it said before kickoff on the Thursday night NFL game.Not sure what the playthrough terms to qualify for a withdrawal are.That would be a good test drive for you with them.
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                                • ShamsWoof10
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-15-06
                                  • 4827

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by BrentCrude
                                  Shamswolf,I got an e-mail saying they would give me $100 if I deposit $50.It's good till the 13th at 6 P.M eastern.I think it said before kickoff on the Thursday night NFL game.Not sure what the playthrough terms to qualify for a withdrawal is.That would be a good test drive for you with them.
                                  Thanks BCrude that sounds SWEET!!! If they give me that I will certainly take it and give them a whirl...

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                                  • katstale
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-07-07
                                    • 3924

                                    #52
                                    Sam the sham, when you get through--how about a trip report? WR? 10% to how much?
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                                    • ShamsWoof10
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-15-06
                                      • 4827

                                      #53
                                      Ok... I will give them a try this weekend and give you all the info. when I know more...

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                                      • thebigguy
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-12-07
                                        • 279

                                        #54
                                        Hi Guys

                                        Any more news on Big Juicy Odds?

                                        I am about to open an account there as I am very impressed that they bailed out those players.

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                                        • pavyracer
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 82839

                                          #55
                                          I need to make an emergency deposit due to unforseen circumstaces (WTP). Any comments? Neas.
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                                          • ShamsWoof10
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-15-06
                                            • 4827

                                            #56
                                            Has anyone been paid out by this book recently.?

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                                            • BettingProphets
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 08-13-05
                                              • 275

                                              #57
                                              have emailed Charlie like 20 times never a response

                                              owner reads this board though I thought

                                              I always have believed they have a great product to endure the test of time

                                              hope I am right
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                                              • Bill Dozer
                                                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                • 07-12-05
                                                • 10894

                                                #58
                                                BP,

                                                Here is the contact info we have for her.

                                                charlie@bigjuicyodds.com
                                                1-888-288-6991
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                                                • curious
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 07-20-07
                                                  • 9093

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by BettingProphets
                                                  have emailed Charlie like 20 times never a response

                                                  owner reads this board though I thought

                                                  I always have believed they have a great product to endure the test of time

                                                  hope I am right
                                                  So, why don't you just call them...888-288-6991
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82839

                                                    #60
                                                    Thank you all for answering my question. I wouldn't know what to do if it wasn't for you folks.
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                                                    • BettingProphets
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 08-13-05
                                                      • 275

                                                      #61
                                                      brilliant idea about calling

                                                      any idea why it says "call cannot be completed from your calling area"?
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                                                      • katstale
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-07-07
                                                        • 3924

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by BettingProphets
                                                        brilliant idea about calling

                                                        any idea why it says "call cannot be completed from your calling area"?
                                                        Now that is too funny. Wish the emails would bounce back with that same message. Even Lenny has better CS than these guys.
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                                                        • curious
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 07-20-07
                                                          • 9093

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by BettingProphets
                                                          brilliant idea about calling

                                                          any idea why it says "call cannot be completed from your calling area"?
                                                          I call them all the time. Where are you calling from?
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                                                          • thebigguy
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 12-12-07
                                                            • 279

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                                            Has anyone been paid out by this book recently.?

                                                            Hi Shamswoof

                                                            I have recently cashed out $5,000 from Big Juicy Odds and have never had a problem with them.

                                                            Their low juice have helped my bottom line.

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