How can there be DRAWS in Stage 2 of the World Cup ?

[nobs]

Admit I dont know much about the way the world cup works, but I thought there had to be a winner now they we are going into the elimination rounds.

I was checking the odds and I see this.

USA +155
Ghana + 170
Draw + 215

So what happens if the draw ? Who advances ? Or is it considered a draw if it goes to OT ? If thats the case then the book better make that clear as someone betting USA will expect to be credited as winner if USA wins even if its in overtime.

can anyone explain ?

Thanks

[nobs]

I see one of my books ( The Greek 0 stipulates that its graded after regulation time - 90 minutes ) while my other 2 books dont make that stipulation.

They should just get rid of the stupid ass draw option, because most American bettors consider if it goes to extra time and USA wins then most would expect USA to be graded as a winner. Thats not a draw if a team wins in overtime, its a win for that team not a draw.

[DrStale]

Not overtime chief, goes to a shootout.

[Sunde91]

Plays are graded after 90 minutes (plus stoppage)

SBR, please sticky a thread to explain Soccer

[acarmelo1]

Those bets are Official 90mins + Stoppage time OT and SHOOTOUT doesnt count

[nobs]

Ok call it a shootout, doesnt change the fact that if USA wins in a shootout that is not a draw and if I bet USA I say USA is a winning bet

[Masu485]

i would like it better that way as well, but alas, it doesn't work like that. i'd love to cash a wager with an OT goal or win by penalty shootout, feels great

[acarmelo1]

If USA wins in OT or Shootout It will be a Draw for Betting Purposes

[acarmelo1]

For betting purposes it will be a DRAW

[nobs]

OK thanks for letting me know.

I just think books are going to have headache because most people in USA anyway expect shootout points to count.

why not just get rid of stupid ass draw option and have a real line.

Who will advance ?

USA -200
Ghana + 170

[Fishhead]

The scalps have been galore in this event..........good stuff.


Enjoy the games tommorrow gang, the last batch of the 1ST STAGE

[DrStale]

OK thanks for letting me know.

I just think books are going to have headache because most people in USA anyway expect shootout points to count.

why not just get rid of stupid ass draw option and have a real line.

Who will advance ?

USA -200
Ghana + 170

This isnt the first time the books have allowed soccer, and it isnt the first time Americans have bet the World Cup. People bet regardless and the books win, that's how this works.

[Kaabee]

OK thanks for letting me know. I just think books are going to have headache because most people in USA anyway expect shootout points to count. why not just get rid of stupid ass draw option and have a real line. Who will advance ? USA -200 Ghana + 170

There are books that do have who will advance lines

[acarmelo1]

3 way line is better for the books

[nobs]

I dont get you fishhead. I am all about the scalps, used to do it all the time.

First it wasnt worth the headache, even if i found a +150 and a -145 Ok I made a few bucks if I got the second one in without it saying " LINE HAS CHANGED FROM +150 to + 140" Which happened all the damn time.

Still I dont see how you found scalps galore with 3 betting options, but I admit I dont have that much time to hunt either. and a limited number of books.

[durito]

3 way line is better for the books

Jesus ****ing christ, I thought this thread was the dumbest ever before this.

[ronjon619]

They play 2 15minute halves if the game is tied after stoppage time.

[nobs]

This isnt the first time the books have allowed soccer, and it isnt the first time Americans have bet the World Cup. People bet regardless and the books win, that's how this works.

I know but if you think there wont be people betting USA and bitching up a storm when USA wins in shootout and its graded a loss, if you think that wont happen then we just disagree on that.

2 of my books dont even stipulate anything about a 90 minute rule.

Only the greek says that

[nobs]

There are books that do have who will advance lines

That makes a hell of a lot more sense

[nobs]

Jesus ****ing christ, I thought this thread was the dumbest ever before this.

why is this thread dumb ?

Durito I know you're just trying to bust my balls but I want toa sk you a serious question.

If USA wins in a shootout is that a draw ?

[ronjon619]

why is this thread dumb ?

Durito I know you're just trying to bust my balls but I want toa sk you a serious question.

If USA wins in a shootout is that a draw ?

yes. It's an official draw with the USA advancing.

[Kaabee]

If USA wins in a shootout its a draw if you are betting the normal way which only includes 90 minutes plus stoppage time.

[Brock Landers]

the draw after 90 mins is what makes this a bullshit bet...they fixed this for Hockey, FIX it for Soccer as well, no fukking draws, a winner, or a loser, thats it

[nobs]

I would consider in the minds of most Americans that would not be a draw.

A draw means it ends tied. That is like saying if the Lakers beat the Celtics in OT then the game is a draw.

I understand soccer has fked up rules, but I am just saying Most Americans bet USA and USA wins in shootout we expect that we won.

[jjgold]

Too fukkin confusing

Shootouts never determine who the better team is

[nobs]

the draw after 90 mins is what makes this a bullshit bet...they fixed this for Hockey, FIX it for Soccer as well, no fukking draws, a winner, or a loser, thats it

Agree 100%

You have to have a draw in the group stages because if its 1-1 the game is over.

Someone will definitly win now so what is the point of having draw option other than to make the books more money.

BS just make it a line like baseball

USA -200
Ghana + 170

[ronjon619]

also the 2 15 minute halves are not sudden death. All 30 minutes will be played and whats sucks is if your team scores first they can still lose.

[Kaabee]

5dimes has the to advance option
checked betcris and they have it too in they have it too

[nobs]

Too fukkin confusing

Shootouts never determine who the better team is

Maybe who has the better Goal keeper. Still they determine who wins, so there is no draw. Not using the actual definition of draw which means NO WINNER.

Lakers beat Celtics by 7 in Overtime, thats not a draw

[DrStale]

I know but if you think there wont be people betting USA and bitching up a storm when USA wins in shootout and its graded a loss, if you think that wont happen then we just disagree on that.

2 of my books dont even stipulate anything about a 90 minute rule.

Only the greek says that

Yeah, they'll bitch for 10 minutes and then bet the next game or redeposit. The books dont care.

[ronjon619]

betting soccer is a different animal. Good thing your asking these questions now.

[lakerboy]

Nobs the books clearly state that soccer ends in 90 minutes plus injury time. Its been like that forever. Why are you making such a big deal out of this? IF you dont like it then dont bet soccer. For fukk sakes.

[nobs]

I am not making a big deal, and Lakerboy I am looking at 2 books lines right now, and neither of them clearly state shit

[nobs]

The only book that says anything about that rule is the greek

[acarmelo1]

Just dont bet it if you are not sure of the result.