rebate wager wont pay me

[pokernut9999]

I have a strong hunch blackie had a well established business before SBR

He did and still does , these kids think he is some college guy that started booking 3 years ago.

Yet again if they could read they would know more as it gives a clue on their website .

[Grandmaster B]

Blackie sweating what?? Kid did not read the fukkin rules!!!

What dumb mother fukkers in this thread and have no clue what offshore gambling is

oh please enlighten us all as to what offshore gambling REALLY is

I always thought it was somebody booking bets off of US soil

maybe im mistaken

[vyomguy]

I cant believe how rude blackie and rebatewager have been in this thread...shocking. I know the guy didn't read the rules...but c'mon saying things like "if you don't like our rules, don't deposit" doesn't bode well for that book. That kind of attitude is not appreciated.

And jjgold...stop sucking blackies diick.

[jjgold]

VYOM who are you??

Do not talk to me like that every again

[pokernut9999]

I cant believe how rude blackie and rebatewager have been in this thread...shocking. I know the guy didn't read the rules...but c'mon saying things like "if you don't like our rules, don't deposit" doesn't bode well for that book. That kind of attitude is not appreciated.

And jjgold...stop sucking blackies diick.

Reminds me of restaurants that have signs

no shoes no shirt no service.

[SpiderMonkey]

I cant believe how rude blackie and rebatewager have been in this thread...shocking. I know the guy didn't read the rules...but c'mon saying things like "if you don't like our rules, don't deposit" doesn't bode well for that book. That kind of attitude is not appreciated.

And jjgold...stop sucking blackies diick.

What should he say? "If you don't like our rules, please deposit and then later you can create a 170 post thread about how you didn't read the rules?!?"

Fun.

[lyon804]

Another comical thread involving RW and it's schills. I certainly have no clue about the business model RW runs but I have to admit I love reading the fireworks that RW threads produce. What other book out there responds to adversity like this? I never see the owner of the The Greek and his schills ever respond??

Like Blackie said once before... "Your product is not for everybody" However, this kinda of behavior makes it not for anybody regardless of how well you reimburse losers or payout the occasional winner.



Just my 2 cents.. However, I hope you don't take Wal 66 or my prior advice from another thread and just chill some and let cooler heads prevail... For some of us including myself we would sorely miss the weekly entertainment around here.

[BLACKIE]

Poker if these guys think I'm a bit rough they should have read some of the shit when I first started out. A lot of people said a lot of shit about me and I fired right back. The bottom line is in the three years that my business has been exposed to this forum there has not been one legitimate claim logged against me. I may talk a lot of shit but I back it up with my actions. Name one other book that has come out in the last three years and has honored every rule and payout commitment stated on there web site.

[Holtgetsback]

Reminds me of restaurants that have signs

no shoes no shirt no service.

yes and in fine print....With advertisements of people eating with their shirts off and no shoes

anyways just let this thread die, player has been taken care of and their business is running well with 0 complaints

[excel]

I give my players 50% cash back on their losses. I pay then in hours when they win when they follow my rules. I spend a lot of money from my own pocket to do things that are fun for this forum but yet in every thread you choose to bash me. Who do you work for big daddy? What are your motives?

Blackie vs BigDaddy

[SpiderMonkey]

From Heritage Sports:

17. Accounts with aggregate winnings of more than $5,000 are considered to be playing on 'house money' Customers deemed to be playing with 'house money' are not eligible for the "once per 30 day Free Payout".

You know why I know its there? I read the rules.

[tropolis]

very interesting thread about these developments

[pokernut9999]

Another comical thread involving RW and it's schills. I certainly have no clue about the business model RW runs but I have to admit I love reading the fireworks that RW threads produce. What other book out there responds to adversity like this? I never see the owner of the The Greek and his schills ever respond??

Like Blackie said once before... "Your product is not for everybody" However, this kinda of behavior makes it not for anybody regardless of how well you reimburse losers or payout the occasional winner.



Just my 2 cents.. However, I hope you don't take Wal 66 or my prior advice from another thread and just chill some and let cooler heads prevail... For some of us including myself we would sorely miss the weekly entertainment around here.

Forgot to mention all the bashers that never played there, they outnumber everyone.

Bashers are cool here but not the people that really know the book

Typical SBR mentality.

[jjgold]

Another comical thread involving RW and it's schills. I certainly have no clue about the business model RW runs but I have to admit I love reading the fireworks that RW threads produce. What other book out there responds to adversity like this? I never see the owner of the The Greek and his schills ever respond??

Like Blackie said once before... "Your product is not for everybody" However, this kinda of behavior makes it not for anybody regardless of how well you reimburse losers or payout the occasional winner.



Just my 2 cents.. However, I hope you don't take Wal 66 or my prior advice from another thread and just chill some and let cooler heads prevail... For some of us including myself we would sorely miss the weekly entertainment around here.

Well very few people even talk about The greek anymore, its not a big time book anymore even though A rated

Guys start with Blackie for no reason, i like a book owner firing back because he knows guys trying to hurt his name and business.

Some of you guys better watch your mouths, when your trying to hurt someones business unfairly sometimes you might find yourself in a sticky situation that you really do not want to be in.

Rebatewager where the players play

[Grandmaster B]

Well very few people even talk about The greek anymore, its not a big time book anymore even though A rated

Guys start with Blackie for no reason, i like a book owner firing back because he knows guys trying to hurt his name and business.

Some of you guys better watch your mouths, when your trying to hurt someones business unfairly sometimes you might find yourself in a sticky situation that you really do not want to be in.

Rebatewager where the players play

again...see my sig

[mtneer1212]

If Blackie is wrong, he makes it right.

If Blackie thinks he is right, but can see how the customer could have made a mistake, Blackie makes it right, as was done in this case.

If Blackie knows he is right, and the customer knows he is wrong, the customer apologizes, and Blackie usually makes it right.

What exactly has Blackie done wrong here? I'm failing to see one item that the bashers have....... I don't like .20 baseball lines, so I don't play at Bookmaker during baseball season. Does it make them a bad book -- no. Do I bash them because of it? No.

[ProfaneReality]

jj tossing around veiled threats.. classic.

jj, you can't scare anyone.. you are a shut in, who would promote anything for a buck.

[excel]

If Blackie is wrong, he makes it right.

If Blackie thinks he is right, but can see how the customer could have made a mistake, Blackie makes it right, as was done in this case.

If Blackie knows he is right, and the customer knows he is wrong, the customer apologizes, and Blackie usually makes it right.

What exactly has Blackie done wrong here? I'm failing to see one item that the bashers have....... I don't like .20 baseball lines, so I don't play at Bookmaker during baseball season. Does it make them a bad book -- no. Do I bash them because of it? No.

[BigDaddy]

where is batemanpat at isn't he the top RW ass kisser?

i'm sure he is due in this thread at any moment

can anyone find the thread he posted where Blackie was hiring these kids to promote them on facebook etc..

LMFAO!

jjgold is the ring leader of this circus act.

un****ing real

[lyon804]

Well very few people even talk about The greek anymore, its not a big time book anymore even though A rated

Guys start with Blackie for no reason, i like a book owner firing back because he knows guys trying to hurt his name and business.

Some of you guys better watch your mouths, when your trying to hurt someones business unfairly sometimes you might find yourself in a sticky situation that you really do not want to be in.

Rebatewager where the players play

JJ, I never said a bad word about RW business model. I said I had no clue about it, but I enjoyed the entertainment of the threads produced by the owner and the schills..


What is laughable is you say the greek is not a big time book

That happens to be my book of choice and they are the benchmark of booking offshore.

I know you know my name and you have sources there and you can call and find out that they paid me well over 5 figures during the NBA season. Guess what? The greek treated me with class all the way and never once put me through over my muthafukin money.



Furthurmore... about the greek not being a big time book... I can bet 2K into the greek on the winning side and they don't even budge the line. Sometime the juice goes from -110 to -115 on the side but no point movement.

Can I get down 2K on a NBA side at RW?

[Fishhead]

Let's be honest here, REBATEWAGER is not a top 2 or 3 book..............JJ, not sure how you have them ranked so high, or anyone else for that matter................THIS IS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE OR IS THE CASE.

Hell, they are only a B- book at SBR and they pay for a BANNER!!


So first off, anyone rating RW even in the TOP EIGHT of offshore books is laughable!!!


Now for the other side of the coin..........


I have played at RW for the past 2-3 months PERSONALLY, and have enjoyed doing so.........Blackie has also extended a 50% rebate offer to ALL SBR MEMBERS, SPONSOR NUMBEROUS CONTESTS, PROVIDE TRIPS FOR POSTERS, ETC.,ETC, and has dealt with many negative people on this forum talkling about his book not only in a negative way, but also with facts that are simply not true

Some misconceptions by some.......

1. RW deals a 10 cent line........and great numbers to go with that.
2. After 30 days, one can have their limits significantly raised


In this thread alone, I have two VERY GOOD FRIENDS on the opposite side of the coin with RW(JJGOLD and JEFFKSU) and in my opinion both of you fellas are way to much to the extreme end with negatives and positives, as I have stated in this post.

REBATEWAGER is what it is..........a nice new book in the offshore world that provides clients with nice oppurtunities ...........a nice little B-/C+ book that has potential to become even better as time passes.

[BLACKIE]

The Greek is a great book no doubt about that and from time to time jj gets of the subject. As for the facts if you despoiled 4k you gut bet 2k on NBA sides. It's listed on our limits page. I don't need shills because I speak for myself. I'm hands on and I'm involved and that's why I voice my options. If you don't like them plenty of good books up top.

[wal66]

If Blackie is wrong, he makes it right.

If Blackie thinks he is right, but can see how the customer could have made a mistake, Blackie makes it right, as was done in this case.

If Blackie knows he is right, and the customer knows he is wrong, the customer apologizes, and Blackie usually makes it right.

What exactly has Blackie done wrong here? I'm failing to see one item that the bashers have....... I don't like .20 baseball lines, so I don't play at Bookmaker during baseball season. Does it make them a bad book -- no. Do I bash them because of it? No.

You are thinking logically and that's where you are wrong mtneer>

See in order to see things the right way you need to form a biased opinion of something first. Looking at both sides and evaluating all information doesn't fit the mold.

If this book or any other book doesn't opperate according to YOUR standards then said book is obviously a bad book. If you have had no problems with this book or any other book then you are obviously a shill for sad book. If there are NO sustancial violations, mediations or arbitrations with this book or any other book then obviously then the problem shifts to higher juice, lower limits, less offerings and targeted markets.

God forbid that this book owner or any other book owner takes offense and re-acts emotionally and ultimately attempts to make ammends with a player. Now do you see what you are missing mtneer?

Look obviously there was some over reaction on the players part and in the initial responses by RW and even Blackie. As I attempted to point out when doing business in the publics eye certain things will be frowned on. As we learned there was already explinations and interactions between the parties so an unbiased, less opinionated person could understand why RW and Blackie might bust a blood vessel and pop off.

The REAL PROBLEM is that threads like this could easily TARNISH the knowledge valued posters have when there is a REAL issue with a book of wrong doings. As of yet RebateWager hasn't fallen into that category from anything we have read in any of the threads about them.

As usual, I have no dog in this fight just trying to look LOGICALLY at the situation.

[BLACKIE]

Fish not a B-. We are a B and probably not one of the top books in the world but someday we will get there.

[pokernut9999]

Blackie is a standup guy and if you met him you would know.

The guy said if you do not like their rules don't play there , why is that bad ?

He is honest and hides nothing , and should be commended for all he has done here.


Now on a sidenote Blackie ....... send Lucia to the bash in Vegas

[excel]

...

[jjgold]

Greek definitely does not have the volume it did 5 years ago more because other books took their business like Jamaica and 5 Dimes and some other good books, of course Greek is a A book. It makes my top 5 of all time whenever I post my list of top books.

I say Rebatewager cracks top 5 within 2 years, maybe Blackie will add some options you boys are complaining about

Lets move on

[lyon804]

The Greek is a great book no doubt about that and from time to time jj gets of the subject. As for the facts if you despoiled 4k you gut bet 2k on NBA sides. It's listed on our limits page. I don't need shills because I speak for myself. I'm hands on and I'm involved and that's why I voice my options. If you don't like them plenty of good books up top.

Nothing against you Blackie. You seem like a good guy that runs a solid operation. Nothing wrong how you run your business. You seem to do positive things around the forums for contestants and SBR posters and you should be commended for that.

I think you incite people how you react. You kinda have that ganster/mob boss image here. No matter how good you run your business or how solid you are you kinda get the trolls worked up here. Now, all this is entertaining as hell for somebody like me because I don't have a dog in the race here.

I think you must thrive off confrontation. Like wall 66 posted earlier even though your rules are published you could have handled the situaiton better and I think you know what I mean. you are not a politically correct guy. nothing wrong with that. I think the world needs less Politically correct people. At the same time I think some of that non-diplomatic attitude gets the trolls going.


Just my 2 cents.

[jjgold]

Good post Lyon!!!!!

Confrontations are good

I should make a video playing the role of Blackie

[Fishhead]

Blackie, lite up a cigar this evening after the CELTS wrap up their 18th title.............THANKS

[Arsenal]

The Greek is a great book no doubt about that and from time to time jj gets of the subject. As for the facts if you despoiled 4k you gut bet 2k on NBA sides. It's listed on our limits page. I don't need shills because I speak for myself. I'm hands on and I'm involved and that's why I voice my options. If you don't like them plenty of good books up top.

So you are saying JJ gets no compensation whatsoever for his constant backing of your book?

[jjgold]

Arser I have always promoted books I like before Blackie

[pokernut9999]

So you are saying JJ gets no compensation whatsoever for his constant backing of your book?

I will compensate Blackie if he sends Lucia to the bash.

[phillyhata1]

jj why are you so mad at me man. i apologized i am not as knowledgeable as u about this stuff. it was a new book for me, i was concerned i was being scammed and thought sbr could help me. blackie and i settled the misunderstanding. had i known that it was gonna cause this big of a problem i wouldve never posted the thread. i really always watch your videos man and think your hilarious i have no beef with you man.

[excel]

Phillyhata for poster of the month.