The most unfortunate loss of my short wagering life !

**BigDaddy** · 10-29-07, 11:47 AM

pokernut what do your first 1600 posts consist of?

it just amazes me how some can be so clueless but be the first to jump on someone and post thats not true

get a clue before you make another 1600 useless posts

**pokernut9999** · 10-29-07, 11:50 AM

I see where I went wrong I was entering +38 +45 instead of +138 +145 my bad. Sorry

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 11:51 AM

should have played those new almost parlays , would have maybe got 50/1 odds lol who offers those bookmaker ? anybody else .........

**pokernut9999** · 10-29-07, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

pokernut what do your first 1600 posts consist of?

it just amazes me how some can be so clueless but be the first to jump on someone and post thats not true

get a clue before you make another 1600 useless posts

get a clue ? anyone that bets 10 teamers is clueless !!!

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 11:52 AM

well whatever thats over with

**pokernut9999** · 10-29-07, 11:53 AM

And read the second part of my first post. Be lucky if you would have gotten paid.

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 11:53 AM

thats not the point jerkoff your math is fuzzy thats the point

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 11:54 AM

im a happy go lucky crazy ass better i dont care if you think im clueless im just havin fun ............

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 11:55 AM

and hundred dollars is not gonna make or break my payroll

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 11:55 AM

5dimes wont pay me ? come on now

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 11:56 AM

their a respectable book who has deep pockets

**pokernut9999** · 10-29-07, 11:56 AM

My math knows that 10 team parlays are sucker bets and a book will stiff you on a 100k bet where you risked only 100.

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 11:57 AM

not from that book

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 11:58 AM

you dont know what your babbling about again , and this is all hypothetical debate i didnt win so fo get about it

**Ganchrow** · 10-29-07, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

when did they change their payout on 10 teamers to 1000/1

The OP received exactly true parlay odds, which is as expected at 5 Dimes.

See my parlay calculator.

**pokernut9999** · 10-29-07, 12:10 PM

Question about parlay calculators ? Most books I see have 300/1 on 10 teamers. 5Dimes has 642/1

so why do all the calculators spit out the same payouts when the odds are so different?

**Ganchrow** · 10-29-07, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

Question about parlay calculators ? Most books I see have 300/1 on 10 teamers. 5Dimes has 642/1

so why do all the calculators spit out the same payouts when the odds are so different?

Most book offer fixed odds when parlays are comprised solely of bets at -110 (thus the commonly quoted +260 and +600 on 2- and 3- team parlays, respectively).

The same books frequently offer "true parlay odds" on parlays consisting of one or money lines.

**Tchocky** · 10-29-07, 12:19 PM

This was with 5 Dimes...wasn't it? Would they pay out a 6 figure win?

**pokernut9999** · 10-29-07, 12:21 PM

What I am saying is I used 2 different calculators and entered 8 teams at -110 and one at +138 and one at +145 and got same payouts.

So when you have one site offering 300/1 and one site 642/1
the payouts should be different.

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 12:25 PM

if that jackpot poster got his 100 k from freakin betonusa scam sister books then i would think 5 dimes would pay ........

**Helmut** · 10-29-07, 12:26 PM

It doesn't matter because the book would have never paid you anyways.

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 12:27 PM

those sportsbook.com sister books scammed me out of 18 k almost 3 years ago my story is on sportsbookreview.com

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 12:27 PM

thats y i've done my research and chosen an A rated book to play with incase i hit big one day ...........

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 12:28 PM

helmut y u say that ?

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 12:29 PM

y wouldnt they pay ...........

**Ganchrow** · 10-29-07, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

What I am saying is I used 2 different calculators and entered 8 teams at -110 and one at +138 and one at +145 and got same payouts.

So when you have one site offering 300/1 and one site 642/1
the payouts should be different.

A sports book chooses its fixed parlay odds based on whatever internal criteria it wants.

True parlay odds, on the other hand, are determined by a mathematical formula without regard to any book's fixed odds.

**pokernut9999** · 10-29-07, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by BeatTheJerk

those sportsbook.com sister books scammed me out of 18 k almost 3 years ago my story is on sportsbookreview.com

haha go figure. And you trust someone to pay 100k on a 100 dollar bet. What drugs are you on ?

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 12:35 PM

Bill Dozer would have gotten my money, he's our offshore attorney lol

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 12:36 PM

free of charge

**pokernut9999** · 10-29-07, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Ganchrow

A sports book chooses its fixed parlay odds based on whatever internal criteria it wants.

True parlay odds, on the other hand, are determined by a mathematical formula without regard to any book's fixed odds.

The payout in question would pay 102k. Both calculators spit that out that same amount so which site is paying the correct odds .

Greek 300/1 Bookmaker 300/1 5Dimes 642/1

What I am saying if 5dimes is offering more than double the payout then how does a calculator figure this in?

One of the books has to be off here somehere

**Rollins08** · 10-29-07, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

The payout in question would pay 102k. Both calculators spit that out that same amount so which site is paying the correct odds .

Greek 300/1 Bookmaker 300/1 5Dimes 642/1

What I am saying if 5dimes is offering more than double the payout then how does a calculator figure this in?

One of the books has to be off here somehere

Pokernut,
Ganchrow is saying that the book can make the odds whatever they want. 5 Dimes is giving you the true odds of a 10 teamer. the others are cutting it in half. I don't see what is so hard to understand here.

**pokernut9999** · 10-29-07, 12:52 PM

that is what I am asking, which book is giving the real odds.

**Rollins08** · 10-29-07, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

that is what I am asking, which book is giving the real odds.

Well do you think a book would give out odds that are that much higher than the other two because they are nice, or because those are the true odds? Use some common sense. I don't know how old you are but use some freaking common sense. If you can't figure this out yourself you shouldn't be gambling and you certainly shouldn't be playing any poker. Unless I'm at your table.

**Ganchrow** · 10-29-07, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

The payout in question would pay 102k. Both calculators spit that out that same amount so which site is paying the correct odds.

That's "true parlay odds".

Originally posted by pokernut9999

Greek 300/1 Bookmaker 300/1 5Dimes 642/1

These are a book's arbitrarily determined fixed parlay odds. These only apply to parlays consisting solely of games offerred ar -110. These are not calculated figures but are simply assiigned by a book. As such parlay calculators don't take these figures into account.

Originally posted by pokernut9999

What I am saying if 5dimes is offering more than double the payout then how does a calculator figure this in?

5 Dimes is offering more than double the payout on fixed odds parlays. The OP's parlay was not a fixed odds parlay, hence 5Dimes 642/1 figure is irrelevant.

**BeatTheJerk** · 10-29-07, 12:59 PM

lmfao