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    men lie. woman lie. numbers don't...

    https://killersports.com/nfl/query?o...+S+D+Q+L+%21++

    and there are so many more that are consistent

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdom View Post
    men lie. woman lie. numbers don't...

    https://killersports.com/nfl/query?o...+S+D+Q+L+%21++

    and there are so many more that are consistent
    Liars figure, figures don't lie.
    Men lie, women cheat.

    Well, men cheat, we lie about it to.

    Um, what were we talking about again, oh SQL as it pertain to sports.
    Killer is a great site, I go to it every now and than.
    My bread and butter is baseball, I use my own database.

    One thing databases, stats whatever won't tell you, unless there were major injuries, the last game has no bearing on the nest game.
    Also, trends can be useful, however if a team is 5-1 lifetimes vs. another team but three of those games were played ten or more years ago, the trend is meaningless. If team 'a' beat team 'b' 35-6 is a killer blowout in 1995, it's no relevant if team 'a' is playing team 'b' again tomorrow.

    Point being, you need databases and stats as a tool to handicap, but you need to choose your stats wisely, use only relevant stats.

    The operative letter in SQL is 'Q'
    Q Query

    If a lefthanded pitcher is starting for team 'a', one thing I want to know is can team 'b' lineup hit lefthanded pitching.
    If the aforementioned lefty throws primarily curveballs I need to know does team 'b' have trouble with the curve, or does the lineup for team 'b' hit lefthanded pitching well, does team 'b' hit lefty curveball hitting pitching well?

    In MLB there are 30 teams, each team have 40 man rosters, that's 1200 players I need to track, even though only 26 of those 40 players are allowed in the dugout, current roster if you will, i still need to track 1200 players.

    Last season, out of those 1200 players, 491 were pitchers I needed to track, of those 491 pitchers, 137 throw left, 354 throw right.
    How do I know this? Easy, I query my database.

    See where I am going with this.
    With databases, and knowing how to use them, is most of the battle to successful baseball handicapping.

    Simply put in laymen's terms, SQL is an acronym for Structured Query Language, it's a programming language used for managing data.
    It's nothing new, SQL was first developed in the mid 70's when I was in grade school, I've been in IT since I got our of HS, I'm going to be 50, do the math, I've been aware of it for 30 years, without SQL, everything is guess work.

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    Sick of this LGBTSQDL crap being rammed down our throats

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    ^
    Nobody is telling you how to use it.
    Nobody is telling you how to handicap.

    My eight year old niece picks teams based on whose uniforms have the prettier colors, and I bet she can pick more winners than Johnny Vegas can, but since this is a SQL thread, I thought I'd contribute my two pennies and say it's a good handicapping tool is all.

    How's it going Pablo, how was the weekend?

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    data basses are a tool but they do not work because each data base is done by certain people asking a QUERY like no way data bases work

    i saw over at covers guys using data bases and they all lost each game 100% S/U and ats

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBill View Post
    data basses are a tool but they do not work because each data base is done by certain people asking a QUERY like no way data bases work

    i saw over at covers guys using data bases and they all lost each game 100% S/U and ats
    WTF are you babbling about Bill?
    Query is asking to pull up certain data I want.
    Query means to ask a question so to speak.

    Please stop.

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    Billy your put of your league here

    The thread for professionals

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    ^
    Nobody is telling you how to use it.
    Nobody is telling you how to handicap.

    My eight year old niece picks teams based on whose uniforms have the prettier colors, and I bet she can pick more winners than Johnny Vegas can, but since this is a SQL thread, I thought I'd contribute my two pennies and say it's a good handicapping tool is all.

    How's it going Pablo, how was the weekend?
    It was good.

    whoooosh!!! My post was not in reply to you. It was just an intentional bad joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo222 View Post
    It was good.

    whoooosh!!! My post was not in reply to you. It was just an intentional bad joke.

    Understood, I'm the king of intentional bad jokes.

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    Correct Nasher. I thought you might have been mad for encroaching on your territory.

    I will tread lightly.

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    Oh boy. This thread.

    I just don't know how to break it to you guys.

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    Anyone using spreadsheets is a jerk off

    They just donít have the power nor the speed to keep up with databases

    I was a math teacher
    Before I got fired from missing CB radios

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Anyone using spreadsheets is a jerk off

    They just don’t have the power nor the speed to keep up with databases

    I was a math teacher
    Before I got fired from missing CB radios
    Before file clerking and after landscaping, or vice versa?

    All I don is 'mine' for data that applies to certain situations and apply it.

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    Spreadsheet are too slow once you start building bigger files

    If youíre going to use SQL, I would lay off JavaScript especially if you have a lot of formulas. Write it in PHP. Itís lightning quick. All I do is teach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Anyone using spreadsheets is a jerk off

    They just don’t have the power nor the speed to keep up with databases

    I was a math teacher
    Before I got fired from missing CB radios


    Gold with a random attack on "spreadsheets" lmao

    What does have to do with anything?

    What does "using spreadsheets" and "power nor speed to keep up with databases" even mean?

    And how is that even related to being a math teacher?

    Laughing my ass off here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Spreadsheet are too slow once you start building bigger files

    If you’re going to use SQL, I would lay off JavaScript especially if you have a lot of formulas. Write it in PHP. It’s lightning quick. All I do is teach.
    Too bad none of that will help win at gambling long term, with very few exceptions and also perhaps to inspire creativity.

    But now we have machine learning, so creativity is a different animal.

    Also, that's not what I mean when I say stacking percentages.


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    The machine gives all the winners. Thereís no human emotions anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    The machine gives all the winners. There’s no human emotions anymore.
    I don't think there ever were.

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