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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    You're an idiot.

    Nobody was shocked you got Atl Hawks +1300, but a few of us now you were lying about the line.

    That's the issue, you are lying about the lines you get, and doing it after the fact. Several of us have called you out on it, but don't troll you about it.

    You just remain silent, because you know you keep getting caught lying about LIVE lines once games are over.

    It is what it is. You are what you are.

    Good Luck if you actually bet.

    You never responded when I actually took the time to post the screenshot of that bet. Yeah, I was lying, because I know how to go into a program and change images and lines.

    Even when you get proof and evidence, you continue to double down on your stupidity.

    You made an accustation. You got proven wrong. You don't admit your mistake or apologize, you just double down.

    And several people in that thread said they saw the same line.

    It's funny how you disappeared after you were wrong, but that's what you do it seems, because you never admit your mistakes. You're probably used to winning every single argument in life. Not that time buddy. Not that time.

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    The fact that you bet all your games pre game shows what a rookie you really are. You're trying to find an edge to get -103 instead of -110, when that bet is gonna be +300 in game at least at some point. You don't understand sports, you just understand math. That's why you don't win big predictions or hit crazy parlays. You hit your standard -110 plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. v. Neumann View Post
    It's impossible to make predictive models for the financial market as reliable as sport models. While the latter are artificial worlds with a very limited amount of rules with all important data being accessible, modeling the former would require a world machine. Nobody can predict market crashes, wars, pandemics etc., and even without such extreme events it's impossible to model all the influencing physical and psychological entities. There are no such extreme events in sports except unexpected losing or winning streaks, unbelievable wins of underdogs etc. - but with the big difference that their outcome probabilities can be nearly perfectly modeled, too.

    At sports betting risks are perfectly quantifiable, the real gamblers are at Wall Street.
    Knowing what I know about the financial system, especially currently, and sports (and math) I can assure you that, at this point, definitively, Neumann is right. There are a few exceptions to this, like understanding clear cycles, but your timing will always be off - that isn't an issue or a positive/negative in sports. The reality is that at this point the guys that do well in Wall St or otherwise are because they are directly connected with policy makers. Markets are far more about central planning and reaction to that than valuation. While valuation will come back in general with supercycle models (for example commodities coming up), it is not quite as quantifiable.

    The thing with the equities markets that is far better is that you have the theory of numbers/earnings/taxes all working in your favor. Sports betting is limited in all of these ways such that you don't have books that will take an amount of risk or have the "liquidity" that the world will have, especially with all of its bullsht derivative paper products at this point.

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    math helps but not always math human emotional is far more important in nfl and it runs from 1 year to next

    long tome ago Packers could not win at C ow boys 1 years C boys didnt ask GB if it was ok to kick record 8th fg to win

    next year GB home blowing spreads vs every one i was in casino told my buddy GB - 6 is a lock all his big money friends took Cowboys +6 and lost 1000's of dollars this was in the 90's but GB smoked Cowboys avenging that loss from year before

    then this one cardinals @ seattle got score rn up on them 52-3 next year Seattle was playoff bound cardinals out of it Cards +11 points beat seattle in seattle

    this year Bengals lost 1st game s/u @ steelers next game VS steelers kaboom winner easy

    Eagles 1st game at wash win easy week 5 34 -8

    home mnf the whole world took eagles wk 10 - 10.5 - 11 s/u hammered wire to wire losing 32-21 both halves

    and all that bs stats eagles never trailing in 2nd half out the window

    Patriots vs Miami also lost 1st game at miami wanna bet at home when they face miami they win!

    every year we have teams in div go flip flop

    Raiders lost by 1 point at Chiefs watch for rematch in LV


    amazing Raiders win @ Seattle they havent won @ seattle it said on bottom scroll line since 1998 or whenever

    raiderz never should be moved to las vegas and i think you cannot bet on raiderz games in Vegas

    like one year they restricted NHL Knights who were cracking every NHL team

    ok it has to do with mobile betting and you cannot do that in Vegas is you do not live there on mobile

    or any where outside in Vegas the geolocation software blocks you

    they know where you live and if your living in another state forgettabouttit

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