[Louisvillekid1]

Wait did you really thread yourself gtfo

[slayer14]

Crazy time wheel game

[stevenash]

No you don't. You only wager pass and come taking odds on every bet.
The come wager is just like another pass bet but for the next roll.
Playing come only accelerates your end result.

You can make one pass line wager/take your odds and sit and wait for your point(win) or 7(loss).
This is very boring as there could be 15-25 passes before your wager is decided. A lot of people play only 3 points.

That's what the casino wants though, your black chips splashed across the board.

[Mac4Lyfe]

nothing compares to counting cards in blackjack. Only game where player can have edge on house.
I've explained this before, although it's still possible to count cards the casinos have smartened up by cutting out more then 2 decks out of shoe. Your odds drastically change compared to 1.5 decks.
If you are flat betting and dont have a big bankroll you will be better off working at McDonald's with the time you'll be spending for minimal gains
If your back counting and only throwing down money on high true counts you better have a huge bankroll because you will be backed off pretty quickly.
If you aren't 100% accurate with your count you will lose.

I have only been accused of counting cards once in Vegas off the strip. I have had HUGE wins in BJ because I study cards. Not just count them. HUGE wins! If you are betting $25 then all of a sudden start betting $500 that's a dead give a way. I really don't ramp my bet up just because the count is high. I'm a bit more advanced. I have a very good memory. I can see patterns of cards in a deck. Even when a deck is shuffled, there's still patterns from deck to deck. I can literally visualize what card comes next at certain times. I can see certain cards follow other cards. I'll be at a table and often say "give me that 5", or I'll play 3rd base and take a dealers bust card. I tell people that I am an unorthodox player. I do not play by the book. I play by my feel and usually win. Most casual players hate that because they like consistency. They like to lose. Which is why I prefer playing high stakes by myself playing 1, 2 or 3 hands at a time The more hands I can see the better. I can play a 7 or 8 deck shoe or single, double decks. After a while I get in a groove of the distribution of the cards even with automatic shuffle machines. I actually prefer automatic shuffles as we can get right to the next game without delay. I've tried with continuous shuffles and can't do it. I stay away from continuous shuffle decks.

[stevenash]

In blackjack pay attention to the fives.
The five is the only card that can make a dealers hand 12-16 without busting and not have to draw another card too.

[Mac4Lyfe]

In blackjack pay attention to the fives.
The five is the only card that can make a dealers hand 12-16 without busting and not have to draw another card too.

Well actually 3, 4 or 5 are killer cards for the dealer but your point is dead on.

[Jeff247]

[QUOTE=Mike Huntertz;30782356]Craps or baccarat give you the best chance to have a winning session. Nobody is going to win over the long term.
Absolutely! Craps is best game and lots of fun. So make sure when there's a big roll and you make lots of money you COLOR UP AND LEAVE!! I've walked up to a tables, won $1000 in 15 minutes and when the shooter 7'ed out I left. Had dinner and enjoyed my winnings. I see to many people try to stay all day trying to get rich. You need to hit and run. Same as any game of chance. Come back the next day rested and relaxed!! Good luck!!

[OldBill]

@JEFF247 so fukkking true i see so many players come n go in 5 hour sessions it's like counting sheep 4 start way up getting lucky bang long shots 1 hop 2 12 11 etc...

2 hours later all gone I keep with system and gain 4150 more in that time because it's a grinding method small wins but almost 100% profit after comeout number is established i can guarntee not being burnt on come outs bet hop 7's and any 7 then bet 11 and 12 that covers the 15$ dont pass but now i have to wager more to cover that extra $8 laid out

i tried doing field $15 and DP $15 and that blew up quick any 7 i lose $30 5 players in a row came out with a 7 but none made points

and 7 out in 3 throws or most 5

dumb shit me

[DJK]

One on One Blackjack.

I just got done playing one on one $100 minimum blackjack at Hard Rock casino in Atlantic City and cleared 10K.

There was a player who was sitting at one of the two tables open at the time and he was just talking to a dealer while waiting for his Uber back to New York city. So, I asked him "How did you do?" and he just smiled and said "Ok". I was expecting an answer as to how much he won or lost, so I asked the dealer how he did and the dealer said he is not in position to divulge that information. So, I asked the player "How much did you win?" and he said about 100K. At the moment, I wasn't sure if he was bullshitting me or telling the truth, but I was taken back by what he said so I asked him how much he was betting and he said 1K up to 10K.

So, I said let's go and started playing and sure enough, the table was hot and I could not lose. Damn, I was playing $100 to $500 and cleared 10K, so if I did what the other player did and I would have cleared 50K at the worst. AND, I don't know why I stopped when I was winning like crazy. But, the winning could turn on a dime and start a really bad losing streak, so I took the win and quit while way ahead.

Probably played no more than 20 to 30 minutes at most as I played only about 2 shoes and it's only 6 decks.

[DJK]

Just last week, I met this really young kid also at Hard Rock, and two of his friends said he brought only $50 and he won over 60K. That has to be some type of record as at a $25 minimum table, if he lost 2 in a row he was finished.

How in the world he won $60,000+ with only $50 is nothing short of miracle.


He won playing blackjack too.

[pimike]

Charting baccarat

Yes

Best odds for the player

Just stay off the other added sucker bets they have now.

[eidolon]

This was all pre-Covid as I haven’t rolled up to Reno or flew to Vegas since, but I think BJ is the best. But I generally drink so can only play BJ for 2 hrs.

After BJ, I then head to craps if there are only 3-4 players. I hate crowded tables unless I’m with a group of friends and we’re just partying at the table. Small table is best as I generally just bet when I shoot with 3-3 diagonal on top. I do iron cross with 3-4 rolls then take it down. Dealers sometime hate it but it works for me in the long run.

Tip for the dark side: personally can’t say if it’s true but my friend says go when the table first opens as they use fresh and very sharp edges dice. These dice will 7 outs in very high probability until they are worn down.

That's some pretty good stamina.

[allabout the $$$]

OK let me explain the system again

$15 Minimum table BET Dont pass for $15 now lets say number established is 4 or 10

YOU need to lay 2 $ to WIN $1 ok lay $20 to win $10 if they 7 out YOUR total PICK up is $15 +$15 + $20 +$10 thats $60 you placed the 4 or 10 for $20 that wins $36 $60 7 0ut - $20 placed = $40 NET profit now if point is made YOU total pick up is $20 +$36 = $56 but you lose the DP money $15 +$20 thats $35 $56 -$35 = $23 NET profit

im not getting this and im a craps player.

what do you have out there on the roll? are you playing odds on the dont pass?

[allabout the $$$]

im going to make it easy

point is 4 i place 26 on it

i do dont pass for 25

where are you getting 4 #'s

15+15+ 20+ 10

[DJK]

Charting baccarat

If that worked, then everybody will be millionaires.

It's all pure luck with baccarat as NO ONE knows what it's going to be the next hand. The only way to win is when you catch a streak whatever it may be; whether it's a banker run or a player run or chop chop.

I saw two longest streaks ever in the last few years and one was at Borgata where it started with 3 Dragons and ended with 28 straight bankers in a row. The table was full so I could not get in and no one really made any money as they were all scared to bet that it could flip at any moment when it didn't.

Then, at Bally's on my wife's birthday, I saw 30 bankers in a row and it ended with that streak.

I gave my wife $200 to mess around prior to seeing that bank run, so I told her to sit down and start betting as there was just one seat open when we first saw it at 14 banks in a row. Just imagine how much you could win if you just let it ride to the end with only $100. Over $90,000.

That 30 banker run has to be a world record or something.

In my experience of playing baccarat, I see more people losing on long runs which makes no sense. My dad is one of them as he gets completely wiped out whenever there is a long streak. He is just an anti-trend bettor and he bets against the streak for whatever the odd reason and he presses too. He said he's going to fix it, but in 10 years he's been playing that game, he cannot fix it.

I'm completely the opposite. I bet the trends only and leave the table if it's an anti-trend board.

[Brooklyn Dick]

Some old timers here may know about this. Not long after Caesar's introduced Baccarat to LV this happened. Some dealers and one or two pit boss's were in on this. They created a disturbance and switched the shoe to one that was literally a "cold deck" top to bottom By the way now you see a chain connected to the shoe. This day was the reason why.

Anyway they had 3 or 4 people at the table betting. The shoe was set up so that the players simply start off with bank and play it till it loses. Then switch to Player and do the same. So there would be like 6 banks, 7 players, etc. The shoe was not even half way when the house had lost over One Million and they broke it down.

As far as I know they ended up with the money.. This was maybe 65-70 years ago when a Million was a Million.

[biggie12]

Well actually 3, 4 or 5 are killer cards for the dealer but your point is dead on.

no Steve is right 5 is the most important card
3,4,6,7 all hold the same value.

[OldBill]

@ those of confused how i get the total $$ after result here it is again

again simply lets use $15 min which i normally have live at parx casino

you place $15 on DON'T Pass point established is 6 ok you have to lay $6 to win 5 so you min D P with lay is $21

then have to place 6 for $18 which pays $7 for $6 $18 wins you $21 your total out on table is 21$ DP and $18 = $39

if they 7 out your paid on your DP $15 $15 and $5 on your $6 lay you pick up all chips YOU won the flat DP bet $15 pays YOU $15

thats $30 the $6 lay pays you $5 thats $11 = $41 in total Chips back in your rack

now you lost the $18 placed subtract that from $41 you picked up = $ 23 net profit

now reverse it he or she makes the point you won $21 and you take the $18 down thats $39 but you lost the DP and Lay of $21

your net profit is $18 39-21 = 18

making sure you make no bets after any natural come outs lose the $15 wait for dice to pass to next shooter I seen it happen a million times 7 7 7 number then everybody thinks great he got all the 7's off the dice wam bam boom every one max odds behind all place bets come bets etc... and POOF 5 secs later BAM 7 out

and i dont care what day of week it is day time night time you will see same patterns repeat in every freaking casino

the key to winning on DP is YOU never ever throw the dice NEVAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH pass dice to next shooter


most shooters are known as random shooters just pick up dice toss then against wall then throw

sometimes you get players not liking you winning betting against them i just say hey you can bet wrong also YOUR not paying me the house is they just collect all pass lines and odds in back all hardways all place bets loving that pay me only $50 and collect $100's

add it up folks 10 players all on pass line $15 thats $150 all 10 place all numbers 4 5 8 9 10 $78 each thats $780 plus $150 = $930

all 10 odds in back $150 +$930 = $1080 YOU only have the DP bet $15 and odds of say $24 to win $20 7 out you win 15 =15 =$30 $24 +$20 = $44 + $30 = $74 omfg let me be the house for 1 hour $1080 - $74 = $1006 profit

sometimes even i shoot dice using an all 7 set takes forever to get a 7 out sometimes like 20 throws

but stupid because i change table rhythm

better to be a non partcipant and just make your DP bet

[johnnyvegas13]

Best odds is slip and fall lawsuit

[biggie12]

I have only been accused of counting cards once in Vegas off the strip. I have had HUGE wins in BJ because I study cards. Not just count them. HUGE wins! If you are betting $25 then all of a sudden start betting $500 that's a dead give a way. I really don't ramp my bet up just because the count is high. I'm a bit more advanced. I have a very good memory. I can see patterns of cards in a deck. Even when a deck is shuffled, there's still patterns from deck to deck. I can literally visualize what card comes next at certain times. I can see certain cards follow other cards. I'll be at a table and often say "give me that 5", or I'll play 3rd base and take a dealers bust card. I tell people that I am an unorthodox player. I do not play by the book. I play by my feel and usually win. Most casual players hate that because they like consistency. They like to lose. Which is why I prefer playing high stakes by myself playing 1, 2 or 3 hands at a time The more hands I can see the better. I can play a 7 or 8 deck shoe or single, double decks. After a while I get in a groove of the distribution of the cards even with automatic shuffle machines. I actually prefer automatic shuffles as we can get right to the next game without delay. I've tried with continuous shuffles and can't do it. I stay away from continuous shuffle decks.

that's just crazy talk ��

[yahoonino]

Baccarat the best game to play at the casino the lowest odds against the players

[luvtogamble]

blackjack

[DJK]

I went down to play Pai Gow Tiles and it just closed, so I looked around and below is the baccarat board where a player made $13,000+ in about 13 hands and then went south from there down to his starting bankroll of $1,000. But, I think he kept the Oranges ($1,000 chips) he won on a 30 to 1 Dragon bet for $150 which paid him $4,500. Apparently, even that 6 in a row and 4 in a row banker runs in the middle couldn't save him from losing most of his $100 chips. He basically made most of his money in that 9 in a row banker run and 4 in a row player run as he was betting $1,000 a hand after starting with $300 and $500 on the bank from 2nd hand forward.

https://imgur.com/a/98g37Xp

Then, on the way out I watched a player playing with nothing but Oranges and within 5 minutes he lost $10,000 at least. He was down to one $25,000 chip and if I had to guess he already lost $25,000+.

I was extremely lucky that the same table was completely the opposite when I played there just two mornings ago.

[DJK]

There are two players I see often at Hard Rock who plays mostly the Dragon bonus bets for both sides in the amount of $100 to $500.

How in the world do you make money doing that shit? One guy always has tens thousands and bets hundreds on the Dragon bets and I almost never see him walk away with any winnings. Once in a while he would bet a side and he almost always loses.

The other guy hit 30 to 1 for $200 bet, so he made $6,000 and that was yesterday evening. He had at least $10,000+ with him then. This morning, he had less than $1,000 left. It's possible he cashed out and bought back in for only $1,000 this morning, but I doubt it. He said he was still down even after hitting that $6,000 Dragon bonus bet. That's what you get for betting mostly the Dragon bets.

[Mike Huntertz]

If you want to get lucky......this is where you want it!

[TommieGunshot]

There are two players I see often at Hard Rock who plays mostly the Dragon bonus bets for both sides in the amount of $100 to $500.

How in the world do you make money doing that shit?

https://www.888casino.com/blog/side-...carat-side-bet

[allabout the $$$]

@ those of confused how i get the total $$ after result here it is again

again simply lets use $15 min which i normally have live at parx casino

you place $15 on DON'T Pass point established is 6 ok you have to lay $6 to win 5 so you min D P with lay is $21

then have to place 6 for $18 which pays $7 for $6 $18 wins you $21 your total out on table is 21$ DP and $18 = $39

if they 7 out your paid on your DP $15 $15 and $5 on your $6 lay you pick up all chips YOU won the flat DP bet $15 pays YOU $15

thats $30 the $6 lay pays you $5 thats $11 = $41 in total Chips back in your rack

now you lost the $18 placed subtract that from $41 you picked up = $ 23 net profit

now reverse it he or she makes the point you won $21 and you take the $18 down thats $39 but you lost the DP and Lay of $21

your net profit is $18 39-21 = 18

making sure you make no bets after any natural come outs lose the $15 wait for dice to pass to next shooter I seen it happen a million times 7 7 7 number then everybody thinks great he got all the 7's off the dice wam bam boom every one max odds behind all place bets come bets etc... and POOF 5 secs later BAM 7 out

and i dont care what day of week it is day time night time you will see same patterns repeat in every freaking casino

the key to winning on DP is YOU never ever throw the dice NEVAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH pass dice to next shooter


most shooters are known as random shooters just pick up dice toss then against wall then throw

sometimes you get players not liking you winning betting against them i just say hey you can bet wrong also YOUR not paying me the house is they just collect all pass lines and odds in back all hardways all place bets loving that pay me only $50 and collect $100's

add it up folks 10 players all on pass line $15 thats $150 all 10 place all numbers 4 5 8 9 10 $78 each thats $780 plus $150 = $930

all 10 odds in back $150 +$930 = $1080 YOU only have the DP bet $15 and odds of say $24 to win $20 7 out you win 15 =15 =$30 $24 +$20 = $44 + $30 = $74 omfg let me be the house for 1 hour $1080 - $74 = $1006 profit

sometimes even i shoot dice using an all 7 set takes forever to get a 7 out sometimes like 20 throws

but stupid because i change table rhythm

better to be a non partcipant and just make your DP bet

much better explanation thank you

[DrunkHorseplayer]

BJ is by far the best table game, assuming that a BJ pays 3/2. Roughly one half of one percent house edge flat betting with basic strategy and positive EV if you spread and count.

[7deuceoff$uit]

@ those of confused how i get the total $$ after result here it is again

again simply lets use $15 min which i normally have live at parx casino

you place $15 on DON'T Pass point established is 6 ok you have to lay $6 to win 5 so you min D P with lay is $21

then have to place 6 for $18 which pays $7 for $6 $18 wins you $21 your total out on table is 21$ DP and $18 = $39

if they 7 out your paid on your DP $15 $15 and $5 on your $6 lay you pick up all chips YOU won the flat DP bet $15 pays YOU $15

thats $30 the $6 lay pays you $5 thats $11 = $41 in total Chips back in your rack

now you lost the $18 placed subtract that from $41 you picked up = $ 23 net profit

now reverse it he or she makes the point you won $21 and you take the $18 down thats $39 but you lost the DP and Lay of $21

your net profit is $18 39-21 = 18

making sure you make no bets after any natural come outs lose the $15 wait for dice to pass to next shooter I seen it happen a million times 7 7 7 number then everybody thinks great he got all the 7's off the dice wam bam boom every one max odds behind all place bets come bets etc... and POOF 5 secs later BAM 7 out

and i dont care what day of week it is day time night time you will see same patterns repeat in every freaking casino

the key to winning on DP is YOU never ever throw the dice NEVAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH pass dice to next shooter


most shooters are known as random shooters just pick up dice toss then against wall then throw

sometimes you get players not liking you winning betting against them i just say hey you can bet wrong also YOUR not paying me the house is they just collect all pass lines and odds in back all hardways all place bets loving that pay me only $50 and collect $100's

add it up folks 10 players all on pass line $15 thats $150 all 10 place all numbers 4 5 8 9 10 $78 each thats $780 plus $150 = $930

all 10 odds in back $150 +$930 = $1080 YOU only have the DP bet $15 and odds of say $24 to win $20 7 out you win 15 =15 =$30 $24 +$20 = $44 + $30 = $74 omfg let me be the house for 1 hour $1080 - $74 = $1006 profit

sometimes even i shoot dice using an all 7 set takes forever to get a 7 out sometimes like 20 throws

but stupid because i change table rhythm

better to be a non partcipant and just make your DP bet

What are you talking about??? Net profit is the difference between amount won vs amount risked. When you bet don't pass and lay minimum odds, you are risking $21 on that wager ($15 on DP and $6 odds). If a 7 comes before the 6, your total collected is $41, but only $20 of that is profit. You then have to deduct the $18 you placed on the 6, so your net profit is $2.

If the 6 hits before the 7, you collect $39 from your placed 6, but only $21 of that is profit. You then have to deduct the $21 you had on the DP ($15 on DP and $6 odds). So your net profit is $0.

The amount lost deducted from the amount you pick up is not your net profit.

[DJK]

New Jersey is without a doubt full of crazy dems.

They just can't tax you enough.

I just got an email from Borgata saying that I will now be charged extra $2.00 per night by a new state mandate.

Same stupid ass state is considering shutting down the Lukoil gas stations. Not only are they crazy but also stupid as hell as that's not going to hurt Russia but only the consumers. It's truly amazing how the politicians in NJ are so freaking stupid in comparison to PA which is just the next door.

Greetings from Borgata,

Please be advised that an additional $2 per day surcharge (plus applicable tax) has been imposed by our state government on all casino hotels located in Atlantic City, for all hotel room stays, effective on March 1, 2022. This communication is to inform you of the additional charge that you will see posted to your room bill on your next stay at Borgata. We apologize for any inconvenience and look forward to welcoming you soon.

Your Borgata Family.

[Mike Huntertz]

Let's agree on BJ/Craps/Baccarat....all good if you play basic strategy.
BJ with counting on a single deck is a huge edge....if ya can find one.

[guitarjosh]

Ultimate X if someone leaves multipliers for the next hand

[Mike Huntertz]

New Jersey is without a doubt full of crazy dems.

They just can't tax you enough.

I just got an email from Borgata saying that I will now be charged extra $2.00 per night by a new state mandate.

Same stupid ass state is considering shutting down the Lukoil gas stations. Not only are they crazy but also stupid as hell as that's not going to hurt Russia but only the consumers. It's truly amazing how the politicians in NJ are so freaking stupid in comparison to PA which is just the next door.

Greetings from Borgata,

Please be advised that an additional $2 per day surcharge (plus applicable tax) has been imposed by our state government on all casino hotels located in Atlantic City, for all hotel room stays, effective on March 1, 2022. This communication is to inform you of the additional charge that you will see posted to your room bill on your next stay at Borgata. We apologize for any inconvenience and look forward to welcoming you soon.

Your Borgata Family.

The Dems in NJ are so kind only adding a flat $2 rate......try out the crazy Dems in Nevada...Hotel rooms both on the Strip and Downtown come with a 13.35% tax.

[DJK]

The Dems in NJ are so kind only adding a flat $2 rate......try out the crazy Dems in Nevada...Hotel rooms both on the Strip and Downtown come with a 13.35% tax.

Actually, NJ's hotel tax is 13.62% so it's a tiny bit higher than Vegas.

Below is an example from Bally's if I was paying for the room for one night. What NJ state added on starting March 1st are the red bold items for an additional $2.27 per night on top of everything else. They already had $5.27 (City tourism fee+tax and State occupancy fee) way back when on top of the 13.62% hotel tax rate. Vegas doesn't have those bullshit fees.

I stayed in Vegas for the whole month last August and I paid $0.00 for 2 weeks staying at the CET properties because I had a Diamond card. But, I did pay some ridiculous resort fees and the taxes ($50+ a night) staying at the MGM properties like Vdara, Bellagio, MGM Grand, and Mandalay Bay for another 2 weeks. I did get enough resort credit for food at the MGM properties, so they kind of evened out; otherwise I would have never stayed at the MGM hotels. All rooms were comped for the whole months.

The rooms I get in Atlantic City are all comped and I have stayed here for almost every day for the past 1.5 years, so I paid only $5.27 a night which make up the mandated fees from the city and the state. So, the monthly cost to me was only $160 which is more than reasonable for staying in hotel rooms everyday. Now I have to deal with having to win another $70 a month to break even.

Unfortunately, MGM just got rid of charging the resort fees for the Gold card players starting this year. Had they done that last year, I would have saved $700+ last August for the two weeks stay in their properties in Vegas.

I stopped staying at Borgata many years ago just because they were the only ones not waving the resort fees for the higher level players when CET and Hard Rock do not charge their resorts fees (which range from $18 to $22 plus tax per night) for the higher level players. As a matter of fact, Borgata was the devil that started this resort fee crap in Atlantic City when MGM bought out Boyd's share and fully took it over.

It's the MGM chain that started the resort fee crap and the parking fees in Vegas and that led to all other casinos following suit.

ROOM CHARGES:	USD 79.00
NJ HOTEL ROOM FEE :USD 2.00 CITY TOURISM FEE TAX Details :USD 0.27 ROOM TAX Details :USD 10.76 STATE OCCUPANCY FEE Details :USD 3.00 RESORT FEE TAX Details :USD 3.27 RESORT FEE Details :USD 24.00 CITY TOURISM FEE Details :USD 2.00 NJ HOTEL ROOM FEE TAX :USD 0.27
GRAND TOTAL:	USD 124.57

[stevenash]

If you want to get lucky......this is where you want it!

BJ pays 3:2
You pay 50 for a BJ though