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    USA Players..Only Pick One Book To Bet

    Fandual here by a mile

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    40 years ago today- After a 68-62 home loss to LSU, Mississippi State athletic director Charlie Carr met with UNC asst basketball coach Roy Williams and offered him the job left open by Bob Boyd.

    Williams declined the job and took the Kansas job 2 years later.
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    None live in tx offshore for me.

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    They all suck equally

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    MGM

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    Wynnbet. Early lines, sometimes lots of value.

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    Anyone play at westgate?

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    Please Coach , give me a break !! Fanduel DOES NOT EVEN PUT UP SECOND HALF LINES ON MANY NCAA BASKETBALL GAMES!! No excuses accepted ! Wagerstreet software worth 10 million
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    Low Vig. BOL book with low juice and high limits. Can't find anything like that in the shitty US market.

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    Prob lean to Draftkings out of US licensed so far.


    part of that is based on their motorsport coverage though.

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    I am glad I don’t have to make that choice. None of them compare to Pinnacle or Marathon Bet.

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    Heritage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingillini View Post
    I am glad I don’t have to make that choice. None of them compare to Pinnacle or Marathon Bet.

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    Circa

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    Believe it or not Caesars, although Fanduel is close. Used to be DK. Limits tend to suck everywhere else.

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    agree with Stevex. right now for me: Heritage Sports
    Aside from the fact they always pay you. their cash back program is solid for volume players. free contests: like the squares last weekend, superbowl sqaures next weekend and their March Madness contest coming soon, which is pretty cool

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    Fandual has solid limits even for sharps

    Caesars ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Fandual has solid limits even for sharps

    Caesars ok
    Yeah, sort of, it's complicated.

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    Superbook seems pretty solid....Fandual for props,Wynn for straight bets& ML. No issues here with MGM as well

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    Any place where bets go for approval and it is common for them to be rejected and have the line move is disqualified from any consideration. So definitely no to Fanduel.

    Right now I would say Caesars, because they just let me back with a new account and it hasn't been flagged yet, so everything is going through multiple times without moving the number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Believe it or not Caesars, although Fanduel is close. Used to be DK. Limits tend to suck everywhere else.
    Circa?

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    Circa

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Anyone play at westgate?
    Good book but they are afraid of college basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Good book but they are afraid of college basketball.
    Why do you think this? Is it just because of low limits? Wait a few minutes, give them a chance to change the lines (or not), then bet it again. Is that really being afraid? I always thought that was bookmaking? It's the places that never let a player bet a line again (even if I wait an hour) that are tacky. Or worse, reject bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    Circa?
    Unfortunately I don't have access there yet. Hopefully they're coming to IL.

    I'm curious what other lesser-known books out there people like. I know MGM is shyte, but what about Ballys or Unibet or Wynnbet or...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Unfortunately I don't have access there yet. Hopefully they're coming to IL.

    I'm curious what other lesser-known books out there people like. I know MGM is shyte, but what about Ballys or Unibet or Wynnbet or...?
    Unibet, Twinspires, and Betrivers/Play sugar house are Kambi sports I believe. Open lines pretty late, a -109/-112 type book. Not good. Deposited in Unibet, got the risk free bet, and bailed. I deposited in both playsugarhouse and Unibet, then realized they had the same exact lines. Sugarhouse requires a 1x roll, so I cashed out of Unibet pretty immediately after taking the risk free bet.

    I actually like BetMGM. Occasionally can get pretty good deals there.
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    Hopefully Bill 688 Passes in NC and I will respond here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    Why do you think this? Is it just because of low limits? Wait a few minutes, give them a chance to change the lines (or not), then bet it again. Is that really being afraid? I always thought that was bookmaking? It's the places that never let a player bet a line again (even if I wait an hour) that are tacky. Or worse, reject bets.
    If your customers are sharp, you use that to your advantage by moving off their action, whether slightly or aggressively.

    That is what bookmaking is.

    Cutting limits is not bookmaking.

    Cutting limits is a way of saying we have no confidence in either our numbers or how to handle sharper action appropriately and we feel no need to try and improve on that.

    That's laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterstpub87 View Post
    Unibet, Twinspires, and Betrivers/Play sugar house are Kambi sports I believe. Open lines pretty late, a -109/-112 type book. Not good. Deposited in Unibet, got the risk free bet, and bailed. I deposited in both playsugarhouse and Unibet, then realized they had the same exact lines. Sugarhouse requires a 1x roll, so I cashed out of Unibet pretty immediately after taking the risk free bet.

    I actually like BetMGM. Occasionally can get pretty good deals there.
    I know. Kambi is so easy to beat. But they're books tend to limit hard. I'm still sort of alive at Barstool, but I expect it to end someday. Just wondering if Unibet's limits are better.

    From everything I've read, MGM limits fast and hard. But I'll certainly try it out. Supposed to be in IL March 5. I'll try out every book that comes online. Why the hell not. Definitely in need of some good new onshore outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    If your customers are sharp, you use that to your advantage by moving off their action, whether slightly or aggressively.

    That is what bookmaking is.

    Cutting limits is not bookmaking.

    Cutting limits is a way of saying we have no confidence in either our numbers or how to handle sharper action appropriately and we feel no need to try and improve on that.

    That's laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    If your customers are sharp, you use that to your advantage by moving off their action, whether slightly or aggressively.

    That is what bookmaking is.

    Cutting limits is not bookmaking.

    Cutting limits is a way of saying we have no confidence in either our numbers or how to handle sharper action appropriately and we feel no need to try and improve on that.

    That's laziness.
    Yes, and virtually every US-based book is lazy. They are marketing companies, not bookmakers. Has its pros and cons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Fandual has solid limits even for sharps

    Caesars ok
    I've heard similar that even a limited fanduel account is worth keeping funded but I think more value can be found at the other shops. There is money to be made at all of them with the crazy sign up bonuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I know. Kambi is so easy to beat. But they're books tend to limit hard. I'm still sort of alive at Barstool, but I expect it to end someday. Just wondering if Unibet's limits are better.

    From everything I've read, MGM limits fast and hard. But I'll certainly try it out. Supposed to be in IL March 5. I'll try out every book that comes online. Why the hell not. Definitely in need of some good new onshore outs.
    Didn't know Barstool was a kambi. Its odd, I always thought they posted lines quicker than Unibet/the others. Sometimes you can figure it out, and click inspect element, the lines are in a div with Kambi in the name. Not on Barstool or BetRivers.

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    Sugarhouse is soooo slow to move lines. These legal books are anything but sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    If your customers are sharp, you use that to your advantage by moving off their action, whether slightly or aggressively.

    That is what bookmaking is.

    Cutting limits is not bookmaking.

    Cutting limits is a way of saying we have no confidence in either our numbers or how to handle sharper action appropriately and we feel no need to try and improve on that.

    That's laziness.
    only fandual and Circa does that meaning more booking than most usa places

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