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  • BigBollocks
    SBR MVP
    • 06-11-06
    • 2045

    #1
    Giving Opposite Picks To Two Different Sites
    JJGold I've finally figured out what it is that you're up to. You come on here and talk about how you like your home state boys Rutgers, and then go on the RX and say that you're betting USF for ten thousand dollars. http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=522024

    You are on there for touting purposes old buddy, old pal. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm sorry to blow your cover, but you're already down $56K at the RX according to your listed bets, so the odds are you're not going to get any business over there now anyways.

    You might want to re-assess your goals and the way you're going about them, as your internet credibility seems to be going down by the day across the entire handicapping community...
  • curious
    Restricted User
    • 07-20-07
    • 9093

    #2
    Originally posted by BigBollocks
    JJGold I've finally figured out what it is that you're up to. You come on here and talk about how you like your home state boys Rutgers, and then go on the RX and say that you're betting USF for ten thousand dollars. http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=522024

    You are on there for touting purposes old buddy, old pal. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm sorry to blow your cover, but you're already down $56K at the RX according to your listed bets, so the odds are you're not going to get any business over there now anyways.

    You might want to re-assess your goals and the way you're going about them, as your internet credibility seems to be going down by the day across the entire handicapping community...
    Isn't this the same person who said that all "touts" are liars because they give out both sides of the same game?
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    • tacomax
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-10-05
      • 9619

      #3
      Originally posted by BigBollocks
      JJGold I've finally figured out what it is that you're up to. You come on here and talk about how you like your home state boys Rutgers, and then go on the RX and say that you're betting USF for ten thousand dollars. http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=522024

      You are on there for touting purposes old buddy, old pal. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm sorry to blow your cover, but you're already down $56K at the RX according to your listed bets, so the odds are you're not going to get any business over there now anyways.

      You might want to re-assess your goals and the way you're going about them, as your internet credibility seems to be going down by the day across the entire handicapping community...


      When you live in a dreamworld and bet monopoly money, you'll always live to see another day.
      Originally posted by pags11
      SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
      Originally posted by BuddyBear
      I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
      Originally posted by curious
      taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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      • BatemanPatrickl
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-21-07
        • 18772

        #4
        Originally posted by tacomax


        When you live in a dreamworld and bet monopoly money, you'll always live to see another day.
        Similar to people who have no real lives so they hide on the Internet like cowards. These people also don't-know-how-to-use hyphens as well.

        Real or fake, at least JJ bets.
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        • HedgeHog
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-11-07
          • 10128

          #5
          I don't care who bets or not; that's their choice. Shils that tout both side of a game are scum.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            I lost 10G's on this game, I never should of swtiched

            Now touts like Nover and others all give two sides too games, they have many websites under different names so money always coming in
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            • BatemanPatrickl
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-21-07
              • 18772

              #7
              Originally posted by HedgeHog
              I don't care who bets or not; that's their choice. Shils that tout both side of a game are scum.
              My point was that Tacomax, a poster who continually harasses other people, isn't even a gambler yet he is a member of SBR.

              People are allowed to change their minds about a bet.
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              • chano
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-02-06
                • 602

                #8
                JJ is a joke. All his posts are crap. This I figured out as soon as I read his first post. You guys need to let him do his thing and know that it is meaningless. Keep the shit coming JJ.
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                • HedgeHog
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-11-07
                  • 10128

                  #9
                  Pat:

                  Everyone has a right to change their mind on a bet. My problem is when a guy starts two threads at two different forums and touts opposite sides. It's unethical and reeks of payola.
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                  • BatemanPatrickl
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 06-21-07
                    • 18772

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HedgeHog
                    Pat:

                    Everyone has a right to change their mind on a bet. My problem is when a guy starts two threads at two different forums and touts opposite sides. It's unethical and reeks of payola.
                    I never knew JJ sold his picks?
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                    • HedgeHog
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-11-07
                      • 10128

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl
                      I never knew JJ sold his picks?
                      If he ever does, half his customers will get one side, and the other half the other. As I say, there's a certain smell to this. I don't have to see shit to know it's there.
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                      • JBC77
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-23-07
                        • 3816

                        #12
                        JJ Gold, you are officially on the hot seat.

                        I really don't think this is a big deal. Don't the majority of people out here make their own picks anyhow? Is Gold like a mini Bob? People are clamoring to get his daily release? Come on now.
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                        • Rollins08
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-20-07
                          • 1337

                          #13
                          Anyone who bets based on ifnormation from this forum deserves what they get. You can't believe the information or take it for any more than its worth. Just look at this forum as entertainment. I've never taken 1 bet from it.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            I move lines usually when I make a play

                            O course I changed my mind and before game time...lol what clowns I do it all the time.

                            I lost 10g's on game, I am only guy that admits defeat on these baords, most of you guys are closet gays and extremely insecure. and I feel sorry for you.


                            I am the real deal and that is why so powerful.
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                            • HedgeHog
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-11-07
                              • 10128

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              I move lines usually when I make a play

                              O course I changed my mind and before game time...lol what clowns I do it all the time.

                              I lost 10g's on game, I am only guy that admits defeat on these baords, most of you guys are closet gays and extremely insecure. and I feel sorry for you.


                              I am the real deal and that is why so powerful.
                              Wish you were a "closet handicapper". By touting both sides of the same game, it would appear that you are the one that "swings both ways".
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                If I was a tout and people buying picks that would be different, I am a gambler

                                Lol why is everyone obsessed with me????????

                                Hedger pick better books Ace, horrible you lost money their but it was your fault.
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                                • HedgeHog
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-11-07
                                  • 10128

                                  #17
                                  Louisville vs Conn: Which two sides do you like tonight?
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    I am taking Cards period on this one
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                                    • BatemanPatrickl
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-21-07
                                      • 18772

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      If I was a tout and people buying picks that would be different, I am a gambler

                                      Lol why is everyone obsessed with me????????

                                      Hedger pick better books Ace, horrible you lost money their but it was your fault.
                                      It seems SBR has a problem with posters (Tacomax) becoming obsessed with other members. I agree with the gay comment because there is no way I would spend time worrying about another dude.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Patrick I think like 30 guys want to fuk me here...the way they are obsesses with me.
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                                        • BatemanPatrickl
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-21-07
                                          • 18772

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          Patrick I think like 30 guys want to fuk me here...the way they are obsesses with me.
                                          Not a pretty image but most likely true. I have some stalkers myself.
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                                          • HedgeHog
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-11-07
                                            • 10128

                                            #22
                                            Pat:
                                            I think it's your Avitar everyone is obsessed with; the best in this forum.
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                                            • BatemanPatrickl
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-21-07
                                              • 18772

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                              Pat:
                                              I think it's your Avitar everyone is obsessed with; the best in this forum.
                                              Thank you kind sir but go to the Private Forum and you will see some downright creepy stuff. Dudes obsessed with my personal life.
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                                              • Rollins08
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-20-07
                                                • 1337

                                                #24
                                                I would look into getting a restraing order.
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                                                • BatemanPatrickl
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-21-07
                                                  • 18772

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Rollins08
                                                  I would look into getting a restraing order.
                                                  I would say the one or two people obsessed with me are lowlife scumbag losers so they are the types that the law can't find.

                                                  I have a plan in place that involves a few phone calls/e-mails to large companies.
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                                                  • curious
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 07-20-07
                                                    • 9093

                                                    #26
                                                    I just don't see how posting both sides in the same game would work for a tout or anyone else.

                                                    So, let's say I am a tout and I want to post both sides of the same game. I have website A and website B. I have a card tonight with 6 plays on it. How do I determine which side of which game to post on website A and which to put on website B? Let's say I put all the dogs on site A and all the favs on site B. And dogs have a great night. I look like a genius on site A and an idiot on site B. So, I'll mix them up. Since I am posting both sides I now have 12 picks. The best the picks can do is 6-6. Depending on how I mix and match them, I might go anywhere from 0-6 to 3-3 to 6-0 or anything in between on either site. I won't know ahead of time which games will be which. So, either I will look like a genius on one site and an idiot on the other site or I will look mediocre at best on both sites.

                                                    I just don't get how this would help me. The only thing a tout has is reputation, the only thing that builds their reputation is win-loss ratio. Or number of units won if they don't flat bet.

                                                    Now the example above is for one day. Suppose I go 6-0 on site A and 0-6 on site B. Tomorrow I have 6 plays and I go 3-3 on site A and 3-3 on site B. The next day I have 6 plays and I go 1-5 on A and 5-1 on B. Now I look mediocre on both sites. So, no one will follow me.

                                                    I just don't get it.
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                                                    • HedgeHog
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                      • 10128

                                                      #27
                                                      Curious:

                                                      Many touts do a "pay me after you win" (a percentage of the lock win) scheme. By double touting, they're sure to collect from some people all the time. Taking your 2 website scenario, the double dealing tout is hoping that one site is getting the vast majority of the wins, because those people will think he's God. Naturally the smart crooks post their plays under different handles, so clients don't catch on to the scam. If both sites become too mediocre, then it's time to setup 2 more conflicting sites.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                        Curious:

                                                        Many touts do a "pay me after you win" (a percentage of the lock win) scheme. By double touting, they're sure to collect from some people all the time. Taking your 2 website scenario, the double dealing tout is hoping that one site is getting the vast majority of the wins, because those people will think he's God. Naturally the smart crooks post their plays under different handles, so clients don't catch on to the scam. If both sites become too mediocre, then it's time to setup 2 more conflicting sites.

                                                        100% correct and all the guys on the front page here do it too as well as everyone at vegasinsider, ect.
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                                                        • curious
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 07-20-07
                                                          • 9093

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                          Curious:

                                                          Many touts do a "pay me after you win" (a percentage of the lock win) scheme. By double touting, they're sure to collect from some people all the time. Taking your 2 website scenario, the double dealing tout is hoping that one site is getting the vast majority of the wins, because those people will think he's God. Naturally the smart crooks post their plays under different handles, so clients don't catch on to the scam. If both sites become too mediocre, then it's time to setup 2 more conflicting sites.
                                                          This seems like a lot of work. Why not just learn how to handicap and pick winners? I did it and I'm not that smart.
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                                                          • curious
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 07-20-07
                                                            • 9093

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            100% correct and all the guys on the front page here do it too as well as everyone at vegasinsider, ect.
                                                            I love the way you accuse 100% of a group of people doing something. There is no way you can know if 100% of the people on the front page post opposite picks.

                                                            I signed up for LT's paid service for a while, made a few $$, can't complain, and never saw him touting both sides of the same game.
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                                                            • HedgeHog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-11-07
                                                              • 10128

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by curious
                                                              This seems like a lot of work. Why not just learn how to handicap and pick winners? I did it and I'm not that smart.
                                                              Because the tout can make much more $$$ fleecing the public than handicapping. Also, all the time spent setting up the scams leaves little left to do one's homework.
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                                                              • raiders72002
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-06-07
                                                                • 3368

                                                                #32
                                                                Coach is sharp. He just broke the news that the Gold Sheet and the RX are together.

                                                                He's the #1 offshore source.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by curious
                                                                  I love the way you accuse 100% of a group of people doing something. There is no way you can know if 100% of the people on the front page post opposite picks.

                                                                  I signed up for LT's paid service for a while, made a few $$, can't complain, and never saw him touting both sides of the same game.

                                                                  Son they have different names and websites beleive me, they are crooks looking to steal.
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                                                                  • picantel
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-17-05
                                                                    • 4338

                                                                    #34
                                                                    10 grand JJ. LOL nobody with half a brain would ever believe you have ever had 10 grand in your life much less bet on 1 game unless some of the books are paying you off to scam for them.
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      pico be careful here
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