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    bonzaii
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    Should Sportsbook be forced to show...

    What they do to create a line. Kind of like how Mcdonalds shows you what goes into their food if you want a tour? Be interested to see all the mechanics, formulas, and algorithms that go into making a line. I think most would be surprised what there going up against.

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    99% copycats

    then market shapes it from there

    common

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    I think most are aware that a lot of these books are just copying lines from other books but who is the one that sets the lines for everyone else to copy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzaii View Post
    I think most are aware that a lot of these books are just copying lines from other books but who is the one that sets the lines for everyone else to copy?
    Offshore market maker books like Betcris.

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    where does the original line come from that the books basically use

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    No, they shouldn't.

    Not at all. Any bettor can put the work in and figure that out.

    I don't agree with the McDonald's analogy either.

    Most books learn quickly to fall in line with the market, not the open or orginiators but most players have to understand that the originators and market moves all show not only the math involved, but intent as well. If books don't fall in line, they get picked off. It was the name of the game 2 decades ago.

    Remember, the goal is not to "get equal money on both sides" it's to get acceptable or enough action on each side. These are two different things.

    I regularly use several forecsasts and some of them will predict and mirror openers. It rotates and different methodologies apply at different times of the season. I've had a few threads that touch on this and have written extensively about it.

    Each line I typed in this post could have a page dedicated to it's entirety. Maybe I'll get to it, but I think you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    No, they shouldn't.

    Not at all. Any bettor can put the work in and figure that out.

    I don't agree with the McDonald's analogy either.

    Most books learn quickly to fall in line with the market, not the open or orginiators but most players have to understand that the originators and market moves all show not only the math involved, but intent as well. If books don't fall in line, they get picked off. It was the name of the game 2 decades ago.

    Remember, the goal is not to "get equal money on both sides" it's to get acceptable or enough action on each side. These are two different things.

    I regularly use several forecsasts and some of them will predict and mirror openers. It rotates and different methodologies apply at different times of the season. I've had a few threads that touch on this and have written extensively about it.

    Each line I typed in this post could have a page dedicated to it's entirety. Maybe I'll get to it, but I think you get the idea.
    I would guess 95% of bettors don't have a clue to what goes into making a line or could copy what a computer does to make a line for an individual game. Besides the fact that your paying -110 juice and people don't know how to make winnings bets because they don't know what games or side to choose correctly because they don't know the statistics or formulas to correctly forecast a game. There is a reason why there is hardly any information at all to become a winning bettor online. One, because most have no clue and either spew bs or information that is meaningless. And lastly, because the people that due have a clue don't want to share their info.
    Last edited by bonzaii; 03-12-21 at 12:50 PM.

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