[stevenash]

I don't really have a favorite NCAA football team (I'm a U Conn homer) I root for Alabama because my wife is a long time Tide fan so I pretty much watch all the games level headed with an open mind.

I've seen Miami and OK State play twice, three times this season.
Just going on the 'eye test' and before I get into my nerdy, geeky analytics I think OK State is the better team based on what I have seen.

Miami has not done anything for me since starting off 3 and 0.
I really think they started believing all that hype back then.
What have the Hurricanes really showed in the past 2 1/2 months except blow out the Dookies?

I saw that TCU game where the Cowboys got beat on that long TD pass play, that was disappointing, and I turned off that OU blow out game because it just wasn't that interesting and I really thought Okie State was going to give them a better game.

Who saw the Texas game?
I did. You can't tell me State didn't get robbed by some of those late calls.
All in all I think they are a good three loss team and better than Miami.
(Based on the old 'eye test')

Just got done with me geeky analytic numbers with the help of Sagarin's databases.
Okie State according to most metrics had the tougher schedule all the other numbers are pretty much no big difference,

Okie State has been running the ball well lately without Hubbard which surprises me some, I was just reading where Miami's D-Ends are going to miss this game due to declaring pro,

I really think Sanders can torch Miami.
Sagarin (my go to college football geek) has Ok. State 4.5 better in this game.
And since he knows more than me and I also think he's right here, why not.

54 dollars (-108 Heritage) to win 50
Oklahoma State -1

[carolinakid]

imo miami win this one today.......you have too much plus money on the ok st for the game and 1st half...

[RudyRuetigger]

we have a big time play


will release tomorrow

[TheLock]

Good write up, Nashstradomus.
I’m watching the market on this one.

[stackz125]

Any key starters out on both sides??

[jjgold]

Guess

[carolinakid]

Oklahoma State Injuries
Updated	Pos	Player	Injury	Status	Rec				Yds	Yds/Catch	TD
12/23	WR	Tylan Wallace	Knee	Probable	53				872	16.5	6
06:01am		is upgraded to probable Tuesday vs Miami Florida
Players listed as "?"
12/20	QB	Shane Illingworth	COVID-19	"?"
12:11pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Miami Florida
12/20	K	Alex Hale	Undisclosed	"?"
12:11pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Miami Florida
12/20	RB	LD Brown	Undisclosed	"?"
12:11pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Miami Florida
Players listed as OUT
12/21	UT	Jelani Woods	Left Team	OUT
09:28am		is out for season
12/12	RB	Chuba Hubbard	Left Team	OUT
10:57am		is out for season
11/30	OL	Teven Jenkins	Left Team	OUT
02:24pm		is out for season
10/01	OL	Cole Birmingham	Foot	OUT
06:22am		is out indefinitely
09/28	DT	Collin Clay	Eligibility	OUT
08:31pm		is out for season
Miami Florida Injuries
Updated	Pos	Player	Injury	Status
Players listed as "?"
12/20	WR	Jeremiah Payton	Undisclosed	"?"
08:55pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Oklahoma State
12/12	OL	Issiah Walker Jr.	Undisclosed	"?"
03:19pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Oklahoma State
12/12	LB	Zach McCloud	Undisclosed	"?"
03:19pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Oklahoma State
12/12	DT	Jared Harrison-Hunte	Elbow	"?"
03:19pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Oklahoma State
12/12	DT	Jonathan Ford	Undisclosed	"?"
03:19pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Oklahoma State
12/12	RB	Robert Burns	Undisclosed	"?"
03:19pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Oklahoma State
12/12	LB	Sam Brooks Jr.	Undisclosed	"?"
03:18pm		is "?" Tuesday vs Oklahoma State
Players listed as OUT
12/24	DL	Jaelan Phillips	Personal	OUT
06:01pm		is OUT Tuesday vs Oklahoma State
12/20	DE	Quincy Roche	Personal	OUT
08:57pm		is OUT Tuesday vs Oklahoma State
12/12	RB	Jaylan Knighton	Shoulder	OUT
11:33am		is out for season
12/08	CB	AL Blades Jr.	Medical	OUT
02:53pm		is out for season
10/08	S	Avantae Williams	Undisclosed	OUT
07:24pm		is out for season
09/18	QB	Tate Martell	Personal	OUT
08:50pm		is out for season
09/10	OL	Zalon'Tae Hillery	Personal	OUT
04:17pm		is out for season
09/10	OL	Kai-Leon Herbert	Personal	OUT
04:17pm		is out for season
09/04	OL	Navaughn Donaldson	Personal	OUT
01:43am		is out for season

[seaborneq]

No way will Miami play worse than they did against UNC. Miami has a chance with King at qb.

[stevenash]

No way will Miami play worse than they did against UNC.

Hurricane's were in a coma.

[Roger T. Bannon]

I would lean Oklahoma State but neither of these teams give a damn. If one of them does, it will be a blowout.

[hehfest]

I could see if it was a team like Tulane missing their D-Line because depth would not replace the same, but this is Miami. They've got backups that are better than Tulane's starters. Not in all cases, but case in point.

[gauchojake]

Is Tulane playing? No

Case in point.

[stevenash]

Is Tulane playing? No

Case in point.

I took the high road and kept my mouth shut.

[Philmill]

Just look at it like last nights NFL game.... Miami going to get blowed out like the Pats did....
And the Refs are going to be blowing their whistles and throwing flags to keep the game close so joe public will stay tuned...

[TheLock]

I would lean Oklahoma State but neither of these teams give a damn. If one of them does, it will be a blowout.

I don’t agree on the motivation issue. 9th graders playing JV basketball get motivated to play. Two top 25 teams will be motivated to win on ESPN.

[Okieirish]

I follow them and the Big 12. The OSU offensive line is awful. I like Miami. Honestly, I like anybody going against a BIG 12 team. The offenses have crashed in the Big 12 this year. That makes their defenses look better. They are not.

[TheLock]

I follow them and the Big 12. The OSU offensive line is awful. I like Miami. Honestly, I like anybody going against a BIG 12 team. The offenses have crashed in the Big 12 this year. That makes their defenses look better. They are not.

Solid input, pal. Thank you.

[stevenash]

I follow them and the Big 12. The OSU offensive line is awful. I like Miami. Honestly, I like anybody going against a BIG 12 team. The offenses have crashed in the Big 12 this year. That makes their defenses look better. They are not.

Good points.

[stevenash]

I don’t agree on the motivation issue. 9th graders playing JV basketball get motivated to play. Two top 25 teams will be motivated to win on ESPN.

And I agree with this.

I played organized sports, I would say a lot of posters here have played organized sports.

Albeit a pickup game of hoops on the blacktop or a D1 NCAA football game, once that game starts and you are on that court or that field or whatever you are playing for real.
It's the nature of the beast.

[Okieirish]

I like the under. I do think OSU does have a decent defense. Miami does too.

[stevenash]

I like the under. I do think OSU does have a decent defense. Miami does too.

Low 50's is what I am thinking.

[Roger T. Bannon]

I don’t agree on the motivation issue. 9th graders playing JV basketball get motivated to play. Two top 25 teams will be motivated to win on ESPN.

You have not watched a lot of bowl games apparently.

[TheLock]

You have not watched a lot of bowl games apparently.

Rog, you’re right I haven’t watched a lot, but, I have watched some.

I think you’re confusing bad football teams with lack of motivation. The motivation is there in 95% of these games, but there are a lot of bad teams playing in bowl games.

[Roger T. Bannon]

Rog, you’re right I haven’t watched a lot, but, I have watched some.

I think you’re confusing bad football teams with lack of motivation. The motivation is there in 95% of these games, but there are a lot of bad teams playing in bowl games.

No, I am basing it on bad bowl bets. I would not touch this game with a 10-foot pole.

[TheLock]

No, I am basing it on bad bowl bets. I would not touch this game with a 10-foot pole.

I won’t argue that.

However, I’m meeting some buddies for drinks and cigars soon and some ACTION is necessary.

[jjgold]

King is horrific

Okl St much better talent and played tougher schedule

[JamesBrown]

Going with Miami 1h.

[stackz125]

King is horrific

Okl St much better talent and played tougher schedule

Goldy has a point.
King is terrible.

[jagaf22]

Oklahoma State is the play Miami is missing a lot on defense. Jaelan Phillips and Quincy Roche are sitting out waiting for the draft. The Canes are also without Jason Blissett, that's three defensive lineman. In addition safety Amari Carter the second leading tackler on the team is out. Take OKState here!!

[Chi_archie]

Miami wins by 10

[TheLock]

On Miami +1 small recreational

2H will probably present better opportunity

[Roger T. Bannon]

I'm on Okla State pick in Pick 6. If they lose, I can call it a year.

[Smoke]

Good call stevenash

[jjgold]

King is horrific

Okl St much better talent and played tougher schedule

Thank You

[RM Logic]

I see Miami is turning in their usual bowl performance. They have lost 9 of their last 10 bowl games.