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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    Why Mattison and not Cook?
    cook was hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    I actually liked the move to go for it on 4th. It was 4th and maybe an inch. You get it and the game is over. They were getting huge chunks of yards on every running play before that. They kick to go up by 8 and you know Wilson goes down and ties it. They played to win and it didn’t work out.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbison View Post
    Zimmer made 3 massive mistakes

    1. went for 2 in the 3Q

    2. didn't go for 2 with 7 mins left in the 4Q to go up 6 instead of 5

    3. didn't kick the FG on 4th down late to go up 8

    the irony in all of this is that he would've kicked the FG there late if he had just never gone for 2 in the 3Q and kicked the XP. that's why you never chase points in the 3Q
    I agree with your number 2 only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    Why Mattison and not Cook?
    Cook got hurt first drive of 2h

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbison View Post
    Zimmer made 3 massive mistakes

    1. went for 2 in the 3Q

    2. didn't go for 2 with 7 mins left in the 4Q to go up 6 instead of 5

    3. didn't kick the FG on 4th down late to go up 8

    the irony in all of this is that he would've kicked the FG there late if he had just never gone for 2 in the 3Q and kicked the XP. that's why you never chase points in the 3Q
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I agree with your number 2 only.
    You are a democrat as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    4th and inches you go for it. This is what the stat guys say.
    But the stat guys can't put a number on momentum and doubt in a player's head. Seattle stopping the Vikings on 4th and 1 creates momentum and gives them life whereas going down 8 would have put a little more doubt in their head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NardVa View Post
    But the stat guys can't put a number on momentum and doubt in a player's head. Seattle stopping the Vikings on 4th and 1 creates momentum and gives them life whereas going down 8 would have put a little more doubt in their head.
    Also essentially ended the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    You guys are talking about the blitz?

    I'm talking about not taking the fg. Also why try for 2 earlier?
    Correct
    Therefore, a 30 -21 lead with a minute left
    Zimmer = bad coaching

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    Going for two in the 3rd was dumb, cause you don't really want to tie it up against RW and Pete. If you are still behind, they are generally a very passive offense and RW's competitive juices aren't flowing the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I agree with your number 2 only.
    you never chase points in the 3Q, never. what was the value in trying to tie the game at 21 in the 3Q? none. in fact, it's quite the negative value proposition because if you miss you're now down 2 and if your opponent scores a TD after that, you're down 9.

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    players didn't execute

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    blame the rb, the first down was there he picked the wrong hole


    Ek-GXoy-UWo-AAEDf-B
    It's called pressure. That's why you go up 8 instead of 5. Being up 8 puts more pressure on Seattle. Being up 5 actually put more pressure on the Vikings. Players do stupid things under pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbison View Post
    you never chase points in the 3Q, never. what was the value in trying to tie the game at 21 in the 3Q? none. in fact, it's quite the negative value proposition because if you miss you're now down 2 and if your opponent scores a TD after that, you're down 9.
    Don't bother. Democrats are part of the analytics thing.

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    Any Superbowl winning head coach (Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin, etc) would have went up 8. This is why Zimmerman has no Superbowl rings as a head coach and little to no playoff success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Don't bother. Democrats are part of the analytics thing.
    What do you have against numbers and logic? Too much thinking?

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    also, when Zimmer didn't for 2 in the 4Q with around 7 mins left, i immediately thought "hmmmm ok, so you'd rather be up 5 than potentially 4 (if you go for 2 and miss). that's a bit against the grain but makes SOME sense IF you think you can add a FG later and stretch it to 8."

    so by NOT going for 2 in the 4th, he was essentially committing himself to kicking a FG later on in the game to go up 8 IF the opportunity presented itself. well, as we know... that opportunity DID come, he had the chance to go up 8... but doesn't kick the chip shot FG?? what that did, as a result, was make the XP he kicked to go up 5 meaningless.

    if you're kicking the XP earlier in the 4th to go up 5, then you absolutely MUST kick the FG later to go up 8 if given the chance,otherwise you're negated the entire purpose of kicking the XP earlier to go up 5. to me that's just baffling how he could screw that decision up once he had already laid the groundwork for it earlier.

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    And if they kixk the FG and Wilson goes down and gets the 8 for OT, everyone here screams and says that's why you go for it on 4th and inches so you don't give Wilson the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    What do you have against numbers and logic? Too much thinking?
    Yes. I don't like losing. Who won the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbison View Post
    you never chase points in the 3Q, never. what was the value in trying to tie the game at 21 in the 3Q? none. in fact, it's quite the negative value proposition because if you miss you're now down 2 and if your opponent scores a TD after that, you're down 9.
    Bingo. Just take the points. To much time left to play all the what if scenarios. If he kicks the extra point in the 3rd (go up 27-21) then he doesn't go for it on 4th and short in the 4th. It's like he was trying to make up for the bad decision from the 3rd quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Yes. I don't like losing. Who won the game?
    And if they kick the FG and then lose then you're crying about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    And if they kixk the FG and Wilson goes down and gets the 8 for OT, everyone here screams and says that's why you go for it on 4th and inches so you don't give Wilson the ball.
    No they don't. In case you didn't notice sea missed the 2 point conversion. Why Make it easy? Make them get 8. That's the hardest thing to do right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    And if they kick the FG and then lose then you're crying about that.
    No. I wanted them to kick the fg. I'm okay with being up 8 . Not 5. Are you okay?

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    I had Minn ml, so you know how I feel!! KICK THE DAMN FG. THEN THEY HAVE TO SCORE A TD AND GET THE 2 point conversation just to go into OVERTIME!! SMFH!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    No. I wanted them to kick the fg. I'm okay with being up 8 . Not 5. Are you okay?
    Did you calculate the odds both ways or are you just guessing based on how you feel about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INVEGA MAN View Post
    I had Minn ml, so you know how I feel!! KICK THE DAMN FG. THEN THEY HAVE TO SCORE A TD AND GET THE 2 point conversation just to go into OVERTIME!! SMFH!!
    Bro don't bother. We have democrats telling us that doing the wrong thing is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NardVa View Post
    Any Superbowl winning head coach (Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin, etc) would have went up 8. This is why Zimmerman has no Superbowl rings as a head coach and little to no playoff success.
    Any intelligent coach would take the points - end of story !!
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    The 4th and 1 was a good call with poor execution; the decision to go for 2 in the 3rd quarter was a poor call. As Orbison said, chasing points is foolish.

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    Best was Minny TT over, cashed that - needed it after Rivers' interception show

    As for Minny losing, that's what shit teams do unfortunately

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    You get less than a yard and the game is over. Giving Russ the ball back with an opportunity to win/tie is a scenario we've seen a thousand times before and we already know how it ends.

    You saw how quickly Seattle went 94 yards for a touchdown, if the Vikes kick a field goal it just means the Seahawks probably would've only had to go 75 yards for a touchdown. Do you really want your hopes pinned on stopping Russ from getting a 2 point conversion after your defense is already gassed, when you could have ended the game by basically a forward lean?

    It's like when the Chargers could have gone for it on 4th and 1 when they played the Chiefs but punted it away because it was the "right" thing to do. Welp, you give Mahomes the ball, you get what you wish for. Same thing with Russ, you don't give them life if you have a chance to go for the kill.

    We're talking less than a yard here. It's not like it was 4th and 3. Hindsight is always 20/20. I thought it was the right decision, poor execution.

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    It was clearly the right call. Seattle D has been horrendous this year. 4th and inches for the win with kneel downs. You also have to factor in that Seattle were touchdown favorites and if it goes to OT Seattle is the better team and a big fav in OT. If you were Seattle and -7 for the game and in the same situation here you may kick the fg, but 7 pt road dog needing a few inches to keep the ball out of Wilsonís hands, you do it all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    It was the right call. You play to win. Not to go to OT.
    sorry i dont agree here... you kick a FG, then Seattle needs to go down 95 yards in 1 min 55 sec score 7, then convert the 2, no way they would have done that, lucky me... im a few $1000s richer now... yay!

    glad im not from mn.

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    It was obvious what happened, we all know what happened, and some of us got ******. CONGRATS TO THE UNDER BACKERS FOR penetrate SAKES! COMPLETE HORSESHIT, and it's even worse to sit here and read how people are trying to justify this foolishness because they won their bet, the shit was fixed, Zimmer didn't want the points, thats why they choked away the extra point in the 3rd with that stupid ass play for a 2 pt conversion that didn't work, and then they should have went for 2 earlier in the 4th and didn't, and then didn't kick the FG at the end choking away the game with ANOTHER horrible 2pt playcall, it's all about the points. That's why everyone is saying "the game was so strange" of course it was strange, they are trying to get the thrilling ending and still keep the game under, thats why Seattle scores no points in the 1st half and then all of a sudden 27 points to win by exactly 1 and keep the number under by .5, stop being naÔve. I'm sick of this shit with Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott and Aaron Rodgers pulling this type of crap all the time, i've seen this no points in 1st half and then 4 TDs in 1 qtr bullshit before. The first half went by so quickly even the announcer mentioned it, but the 2nd half went on forever. Dallas loves to do this shit too, go down big and then come back, it's bullshit and for ratings. Play the game the right way from the start of the game! Glad that fuk Dak broke his foot, karma for all the bullshit he's been involved with, won't have to watch them not play for 3 qtrs and then come back anymore. Russell Wilson definitely got karma coming for him.
    Last edited by Luckycharms2012; 10-12-20 at 07:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Shoot him right away.

    No fg?

    Tried an unnecessary xp.

    I want him shot in the eyes
    I didnt report this to the authorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I want him shot in the eyes
    Easy, just put him in a MAGA hat and send him to a BLM/Antifa protest zone. Shooter won't even be charged.

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