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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron View Post
    270 to win and Cali is 55 and NY is 29 on it's own and Hillary couldn't win



    those bigger states or more populated states are worth more electoral wise and the losers are still crying about it 4 years later

    maybe the DNC shouldn't rig who they give the nomination too
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Biden's strategy right now is let Trump keep shooting his own foot. No need to go on attack when Trump keeps throwing Hail Marys being down 2 touchdowns.
    Biden has no strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Exactly
    Not exactly.

    Per Capita both California and New York have a rough vote weight of less than 1, while Wyoming is 2.97

    So those states votes are not worth more

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Biden has no strategy.
    The strategy could be to let Trump bury himself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Coffee View Post
    The strategy could be to let Trump bury himself...
    he's already buried himself Blacker !

    in hard work !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manny24 View Post
    he's already buried himself Blacker !

    in hard work !!

    He does work hard...
    On Twitter..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Biden has no strategy.
    He doesn't need one. Trumps strategy is all the Dems need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Coffee View Post
    The strategy could be to let Trump bury himself...
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Not exactly.

    Per Capita both California and New York have a rough vote weight of less than 1, while Wyoming is 2.97

    So those states votes are not worth more
    Only a handful of states where your vote matters. It's crazy. If it were just popular vote, everyone's vote would matter exactly the same no matter where you are. Candidate couldn't just pander to specific demographic of swing voters in a handful of states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shafted69 View Post
    Very bad optics for Drumpf. Almost empty arena and his incoherent speech. He looks mentally & physically ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Only a handful of states where your vote matters. It's crazy. If it were just popular vote, everyone's vote would matter exactly the same no matter where you are. Candidate couldn't just pander to specific demographic of swing voters in a handful of states.
    Exactly! Election comes down to 4 states - Michigan, Pa, Fla, and Wis -- Those are the only states a poll matters. Rest of the US meaningless as far as nationwide polling goes... Sorry CNN!

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    Be thankful fellas.

    Could you imagine a US where election results just come down to two coastal cities, because of the concentration of people?

    They could vote themselves all the resources and screw the rest of the nation as pushes to change congressional influence would likely ensue. Even those changes didn't happen, we know where the pork would go with the justification of higher population centers.

    To think there are people that would abolish the current system with no United States replacement.

    They are likely just blind to the American doctrine of fariness because all they want to do is win an election.

    Like I said before, it's amazing the length both sides go to not only keep power, but to try to keep the other side from getting power.

    Including radical changes to the Law of the Land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Be thankful fellas.

    Could you imagine a US where election results just come down to two coastal cities, because of the concentration of people?

    They could vote themselves all the resources and screw the rest of the nation as pushes to change congressional influence would likely ensue. Even those changes didn't happen, we know where the pork would go with the justification of higher population centers.

    To think there are people that would abolish the current system with no United States replacement.

    They are likely just blind to the American doctrine of fariness because all they want to do is win an election.

    Like I said before, it's amazing the length both sides go to not only keep power, but to try to keep the other side from getting power.

    Including radical changes to the Law of the Land.
    Makes no sense. As it is now, election results comes down to handful of states, so they can cater to those states and ignore the decided ones. If it's simply one person one vote then everyone counts equally no matter where you are. Can't cater to any one place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Makes no sense. As it is now, election results comes down to handful of states, so they can cater to those states and ignore the decided ones. If it's simply one person one vote then everyone counts equally no matter where you are. Can't cater to any one place.
    Iíve tried to explain this exact thing. Some guys are just never gonna get it. The electoral college is terrible. Trump was finally right when he said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Makes no sense. As it is now, election results comes down to handful of states, so they can cater to those states and ignore the decided ones. If it's simply one person one vote then everyone counts equally no matter where you are. Can't cater to any one place.
    I agree that supervotes shouldn't occur nor should they, since they do occur, be able to counter the distirict that made a decision, that's downright election fraud in the truest since. But with the current system it's handful of states, that has changed through elections...and has it's battlegrounds. Without some kind of system, it becomes a handful of cities.

    Cities already have too much power. The can willy nilly violate federal laws.

    We have evolved to what we have evolved to, there's no changing that, but to decry the power of a handful of states at the cost of making it a couple of cities makes on thing very clear...

    It's more about winning elections and taking away or gaining power than it is the spirit of how the founding fathers set up the democratic republic.

    That's most certainly not good going forward for Uniting any States under one federal gov't.

    States are states for a reason and the college is set up with the spirit of that in mind.

    It seems like not just international borders are in jeopardy, but State borders as well. Putting a general vote out there without weghting state borders, some sort of divisions, ignores those very borders. What's next?

    You guys want to increase the Senate for more populated states and lessen those for the rural areas in mid America?

    The House of Representavies already makes those adjustments, for a reason. Don't forget the 3 branches and the rest of the Constitutional set up. You guys want to be smarter than the Founding Father's? You want to say they couldn't see this coming?

    Sheesh.

    Here's House map, with proof of fluidity, where you power hungry bitter we lost election seekers should focus...



    And here's that map that scares the election campaign heads for a certain side, leading them to knee jerk reactions to a document that is not yet outdated, wanting to change a system simply to win an election they don't deserve under the United States Constitution...








    Maybe the Executive Order should be constrained, not the election parts of the constitution.

    That could probably do everyone some good. As it stands, not much of the Constitution is followed by either side these days, let's be thankful the election is at least sort of followed.

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware of the Republican power grabs that help lead to the red map, but both sides engage in that behavior.

    Making the utlimate power grab though, becuase the current season fits, would be a terrible precedent as those rules would then forever be in flux.

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