1. 06-21-20 07:09 AM #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by horja1 View Post
    Did he actually say COVID-19 testing should be slowed down?
    Yep..
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  2. 06-21-20 07:35 AM #212
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    Facts...

    fukk opinions..

    Headcount of 6200...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrews.../#8d6a56e1fed5


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  3. 06-21-20 07:51 AM #213
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  4. 06-21-20 07:58 AM #214
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    TRUMP




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  5. 06-21-20 07:59 AM #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Coffee View Post
    Yep..
    It's the same logic he applied early on when he didn't want the cruise ship to dock. If they don't reach the shore, their positive cases don't count against the domestic numbers.

    What escapes him is that a positive test means a person can be isolated and not spread a virus with no cure or vaccine available yet. The vast majority who contract the virus won't get super sick, and some may not even know they had it. Most (as best as we can tell) however, will pass it along to others. His concern is looking bad (numbers wise) vs. limiting the actual spread.

    You see this bizarro logic outside of Trump though. Churches that stopped reporting abuse so it couldn't be tracked (and then they could claim there wasn't an abuse problem). Pro sports hiding positive tests for stimulants. Law enforcement reclassifying certain crimes (separating sexual assault from sexual interference) so they could claim a drop in numbers.

    Abraham Lincoln's favorite riddle was "If you call a dog's tail a leg, how many legs does it have?" The answer: four. Calling a tail a leg, does not make it a leg. Some things you can change the definition of without any real consequence (measuring how people "feel" or equating the DJIA to the health of the overall economy), but much like the spread of the virus, the facts don't attend rallies or listen to numbers or projections and then act accordingly.

    Slowing down testing does not lower the number of positive tests or mitigate the spread. But showing lower positive tests boosts parts of the market and gives seeming (but false) good news. For a president who has always valued perception over reality, this strategy makes sense.
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  7. 06-21-20 08:10 AM #217
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    Is this guy crazy?


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  8. 06-21-20 08:11 AM #218
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Holy shit. He can drink with one hand again.

    Ponce De Leon* should have been looking for a KFC and diet coke factory. Soon Trump will be draft (avoiding) age metabolically again.


    * yeah I know it's a myth.
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    What’s sad is these Democrats are too dumb to understand if Biden gets in he’s going to be controlled by the radicals and it’s going to be an epic disaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_Guest_Pro View Post
    they talked about it this morning on the news how they limited the amount of tix given out due to the pandemic
    Such bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    Holy shit. He can drink with one hand again.

    Ponce De Leon* should have been looking for a KFC and diet coke factory. Soon Trump will be draft (avoiding) age metabolically again.


    * yeah I know it's a myth.
    Trump emotionally 12. 6 years.
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  13. 06-21-20 08:35 AM #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    But showing lower positive tests boosts parts of the market and gives seeming (but false) good news. For a president who has always valued perception over reality, this strategy makes sense.
    Ok, but at least he should not advertise it.

    Also why do any tests at all? This way it can be reported that Covid-19 was eradicated = China 1 month ago
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    Sadly Deborah missed the rally because security would not allow he in with her bell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    What’s sad is these Democrats are too dumb to understand if Biden gets in he’s going to be controlled by the radicals and it’s going to be an epic disaster
    Step away from the Kool-Aid..
    Or drink it...
    Your choice...
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    The President of the United States amid the worst pandemic in a century:

    "Slow the testing down, please".
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    1,000,000 million ticket requests. Only 6,200 showed up. Trump could have had more people if he did a Zoom meeting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by horja1 View Post
    Ok, but at least he should not advertise it.
    Also why do any tests at all? This way it can be reported that Covid-19 was eradicated = China 1 month ago
    In theory sure. But if it were just people getting sick and missing some work, that could have been chalked up to seasonal ailments or "there's a bad bug going around"

    Having ICU's reaching critical mass for equipment and staffing, or having morgues fill up past capacity, would possibly cause even more panic than already exists in some circles.

    A good example is the anti drinking-driving group MADD. Because of their lobbying, you'd be stunned to find out what constitutes an accident where "alcohol was potentially involved" (hint, if you roll your car, pray to God someone didn't throw an empty beer can in the ditch 30 feet from where you ended up). The motives are good (prevent drinking and driving) so most people chalk it up to being beneficial (if not harmless) to fudge with the numbers.

    The pandemic exposed how the country lacked real federal leadership. Having 50 states compete against each other for supplies might as well have been 50 different countries. Having states order supplies and then having the feds step in and take them (and not even tell them) is at best negligent, and at worse, repugnant and malicious.

    The virus was coming here whether we banned travel from China or not. It's a hard time to learn about logarithmic math when it comes to how these things spread.

    A better thought out coordinated plan for testing and supplies however could definitely have lessened the number of infected and deaths.

    A terrible time to have terrible leadership.
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  19. 06-21-20 09:02 AM #229
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    Biden a leader??


    Lol
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  21. 06-21-20 09:07 AM #231
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    The rally was a bad idea and an epic fail...

    If you think or talk otherwise, you're confirming yourself as a fool..
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    Trump's campaign is embarrassed and will look to save face..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Coffee View Post
    Trump's campaign is embarrassed and will look to save face..
    It's never been in the DNA with Trump, but it may (underline "may") be one factor that costs him re-election. Whether it's dumb stuff like arguing over inauguration crowd sizes, using sharpie's on hurricane maps, or any number of dumb little mistakes, Trump truly believes that maintaining the myth is more important. In truth, he won because a lot of people just wanted to really shake things up. No gov't experience etc - he's going to get overwhelmed and penetrate up some things. But he's been exposed as someone who doesn't have even a basic understanding of civics, and who by even the admission of some in here who support him, has terrible judgement when hiring those around him.

    If Trump gave an interview today and laughed it off and said "well, score one for the trolls. I guess a million reserved tickets really was too good to be true LOL" - that totally takes the air out of the sails. The problem is, for the time leading up to the rally, Parscale and Trump were all about "no one has ever generated this kind of ticket demand" blah blah. So to walk it back and admit you got played, but spinning into "we know we can fill those arena's, we just need to be better about getting the tickets to the people who really want to go" would have diffused what is going to be another prolonged embarrassment. So now when he gets mocked for it, it'll be met with "YOU HAVE TDS!" because in their world, only he can dwell on stupid stuff, but not anyone opposed to him.

    Instead, they'll blame protesters, covid panic, fake news about threats of violence etc. As long as it plays to the base, then they could say "We prayed and God said to limit the number of people" and receive a collective "praise jesus" from the red hat retard brigade.
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  24. 06-21-20 09:21 AM #234
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    The Fire Marshall said there were 6,200 people that attended.
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  25. 06-21-20 09:45 AM #235
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  26. 06-21-20 09:48 AM #236
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    Actually you just got ROCKED by teens on TikTok who flooded the Trump campaign w/ fake ticket reservations & tricked you into believing a million people wanted your white supremacist open mic enough to pack an arena during COVID

    Shout out to Zoomers. Y’all make me so proud.

    - AOC's Twitter account

    Many tickets were ordered by these guys and never used.
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  27. 06-21-20 09:50 AM #237
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    Tik Tok is a Chinese Communist Party controlled platform and she's bragging about an effort to undermine a US election on there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    Tik Tok is a Chinese Communist Party controlled platform and she's bragging about an effort to undermine a US election on there?
    There was voting last night?

    The tik-tok stunt falls somewhere above flooding an online poll and below Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos"


    This basically replaces the 2012 Pitbull Stunt as the funniest crowdsourced prank in recent memory.
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  29. 06-21-20 09:53 AM #239
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    it was a great success money wise i was told this morning a lot of money was raise from the big donors there in the state..
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  30. 06-21-20 09:59 AM #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    There was voting last night?

    The tik-tok stunt falls somewhere above flooding an online poll and below Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos"
    The point I'm making is she is in total support to make things look different as they seem. Do you actually think the national media is going to run this story? The main narrative is going to be the lack of turnout. The real sad thing is that a House representative rubber stamps this effort instead of trying to win the people over with her own ideas.
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  31. 06-21-20 10:04 AM #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Everyone knows that testing will lead to more cases hence why most countries aren't encouraging testing. Do you not get the fact that most will not die or be in the hospital?
    This is Trump logic, but it's 100% wrong. The number of cases is exactly the same whether you know about it or not. The truth is... more testing will lead to FAR FAR less cases. Example... let's say there were 100 untested positive Covid-19 people at Trump's rally last night... whether they were tested or not they are still positive. However... had they been tasted I would think that at least SOME of them would have stayed home. More testing leads to less spread which leads to less cases. This is REALLY simple math here.

    Years ago I had a roommate that was heavily in debt. When he would get bills in the mail he would throw them right in the trash without even opening them up. If a person never looks at their bills does that mean that they have less debt than the person that does look at their bills? Just pretending to be ignorant about something doesn't change it's reality.

    I repeat... more testing leads to FAR FAR FAR less cases. If it were up to Trump... we would have zero testing and therefor zero cases in his mind. It doesn't mean it would be true. YOU CAN'T GASLIGHT A VIRUS! The reality of the number of positive cases is going to be the same regardless of whether you are interested in the truth or not. Choosing ignorance over knowledge isn't going to make anything magically go away. It's going to make things worse.

    Prediction... sometime next month one of the cult members at last nights rally will die from Covid-19 and they will wonder how that could have possibly happened. I'll tell you how it happened right now... it's because there were a bunch of untested people at the rally last night spreading the disease to everyone around them. This is simple math folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    The point I'm making is she is in total support to make things look different as they seem.
    Irony overload.

    On a night where Trump promoted the idea of less testing = less cases, you're upset about perception at the Hillbilly Nuremberg rally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Biden a leader??


    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    Irony overload.

    On a night where Trump promoted the idea of less testing = less cases, you're upset about perception at the Hillbilly Nuremberg rally.
    COVID 19 is so March 2020. Catch up with the times. The disease ain't going anywhere soon whether yo are out and about, or hunkered in your bunker. Just go out and enjoy life, and be careful with your elderly loved ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Coffee View Post
    Trump's campaign is embarrassed and will look to save face..
    Fire Parscale?
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