1. #1
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 394,847
    Betpoints: 10

    Your Belmont Stakes Play???

    Post position Horse Jockey Trainer
    1 Tap It To Win John Velazquez Mark Casse
    2 Sole Volante Luca Panici Patrick Biancone
    3 Max Player Joel Rosario Linda Rice
    4 Modernist Junior Alvarado Bill Moss
    5 Farmington Road Javier Castellano Todd Pletcher
    6 Fore Left Jose Ortiz Doug O'Neill
    7 Jungle Runner Reylu Gutierrez Steve Asmussen
    8 Tiz The Law Manny Franco Barclay Tagg
    9 Dr Post Irad Ortiz Jr. Todd Pletcher
    10 Pneumatic Ricardo Santana Jr. Steve Asmussen

    Belmont Stakes odds


    Horse Updated odds Morning line odds
    Tiz The Law -125 6-5
    Tap It To Win +600 6-1
    Dr Post +700 5-1
    Sole Volante +800 9-2
    Pneumatic +1000 8-1
    Max Player +1800 15-1
    Modernist +1800 15-1
    Farmington Road +2500 15-1
    Fore Left +3300 30-1
    Jungle Runner +5500 50-1

    Why is Tiz The Law such a heavy favorite?

    Tiz The Law stamped his status as the favorite for the Kentucky Derby had it been run on May 2 by speeding to victory in the Florida Derby on March 28. With the Grade 1 race at Gulfstream Park also being 1 1/8 miles, it makes sense Tiz The Law keeps that same vibe for the Belmont Stakes.

    Tiz The Law has shown great instincts with his deliberate pace early in races before picking the right time to hit his fastest gear and pull away. It's appropriate that his first Triple Crown race is in New York, given he's both locally owned by Sackatoga Stable and bred by Twin Creeks Farm.

    HIs 82-year-old trainer, Barclay Tagg, once had a dominant popular horse in Funny Cide, who won both the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness in 2003. Based on the impressive results that include four wins in five races, Tagg has conditioned Tiz The Law to be able to win with different styles from different posts.

    Is Tap It To Win the biggest threat to upset Tiz The Law?

    Tap It To Win has good recent experience at Belmont Park having just won the Allowance (1 1/16 miles) on June 4. Tap It To Win relies on starting fast and wouldn't surprise anyone if he had the early lead on Saturday. The question is whether, even with the shorter distance, whether he can hold up until the end with Tiz The Law working to leave a lot in the tank for the stretch.

    Sole Volante might be a better choice for the upset as the opposite kind of horse. He needs to stay in it early because he is strength is closing. Neither horse is as well-rounded as Tiz The Law, but a big burst somewhere could end up paying off.

    Going deep into the field, Dr Post can give Tiz The Law some trouble right next to him at No. 9 if he can stay with him halfway through the race. Max Player and Farmington Road are the true longshots to watch, however.

    Max Player won the Grade 3 Withers, a 1 1/8-mile race at Aqueduct when he last raced on Feb. 1. Linda Rice, who is attempting to become the first female trainer to win the Belmont Stakes, has worked to make him feel at home on the track. Max Player is ridden by Joel Rosario, who won a much longer Belmont Stakes with Sir Winston last year.

    Farmington Road needs a fast, tight race but those would be ideal conditions for him to shock everyone after coming in fourth in the 1 1/8-mile Arkansas Derby on May 2.

    Which post position is the most favorable in the Belmont Stakes?

    Tiz The Law is trying to change a long-standing trend from No. 8, which has produced only 5 past winners. No. 1 has by far produced the most winners, at 23, which is an obvious boost to the chances of Tap It To Win.

    Then come No. 3 and No. 5, tied for 13 winners each, playing well into the upset chances of Max Player and Farmington Road. No. 2 has been rather effective between two favorable spots, producing 11 winners and providing some hope for Sole Volante.

    Two years ago, Triple Crown winner Justify came through from No. 1. Sir Winston made it work with the middle from No. 7 last year.

    Which trainers have had the best Belmont Stakes success?

    Mark Casse, who trained Sir Winston for his first victory, builds a stronger case for Tap It To Win. Todd Pletcher, a three-time Belmont Stakes winner, has both Farmington Road and Dr Post in the mix. The only other trainer with a Belmont victory is Steve Asmussen with Creator in 2016, but he has two shaky entries in Pneumatic and the overwhelmed Jungle Runner.

    Which jockeys have had the best Belmont Stakes success?

    While Manny Franco and Tagg are both looking for their first wins with Tiz The Law, there's some good experience elsewhere. Before Sir Winston, Rosario also won with Tonalist in 2014. John Velazquez is looking to make it three with Tap It To Win, after victories with Union Rags in 2012 and Rags to Riches in 2007.





    Jose Ortiz is going for the big upset with Fore Left after bringing home Tapwrit in 2017. HIs brother, Irad Ortiz Jr., won for Asmussen with Creator and is trying to do the same for Pletcher with Dr Post.

  2. #2
    BIGDAY
    angelman.org
    BIGDAY's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 02-17-10
    Posts: 48,474
    Betpoints: 25856

    Points Awarded:

    ChuckyTheGoat gave BIGDAY 16 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  3. #3
    USCPHILLYGUY
    HORSES MODERATOR
    USCPHILLYGUY's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-15-12
    Posts: 21,372
    Betpoints: 24192

    Holy shit. A horse racing post from the horse racing mod

  4. #4
    vitterd
    vitterd's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-14-17
    Posts: 58,463
    Betpoints: 3673

    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    Holy shit. A horse racing post from the horse racing mod
    I’m tailing you today. Gimme a play in the big race!

  5. #5
    USCPHILLYGUY
    HORSES MODERATOR
    USCPHILLYGUY's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-15-12
    Posts: 21,372
    Betpoints: 24192

    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post
    I’m tailing you today. Gimme a play in the big race!
    TAP IT TO WIN. GL vitty

  6. #6
    vitterd
    vitterd's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-14-17
    Posts: 58,463
    Betpoints: 3673

    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    TAP IT TO WIN. GL vitty
    Ok thx. Gonna hammer it! Good luck!!
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: USCPHILLYGUY

  7. #7
    gummo
    Bearcats
    gummo's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-04-06
    Posts: 6,299
    Betpoints: 1147

    I have Tap it to Win as well.
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: USCPHILLYGUY

  8. #8
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 394,847
    Betpoints: 10

    3 Max Player

  9. #9
    BOA12
    BOA12's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-19-12
    Posts: 18,592
    Betpoints: 1317

    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    TAP IT TO WIN. GL vitty

  10. #10
    BOA12
    BOA12's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-19-12
    Posts: 18,592
    Betpoints: 1317

    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post
    Ok thx. Gonna hammer it! Good luck!!
    Hammer time. Don't kill the odds vitt.

  11. #11
    bobbyfk
    Las Vegas Local
    bobbyfk's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-19-09
    Posts: 15,218
    Betpoints: 1464

    not playing the favorite here

    1-2-5-9 $2 exacta box most likely
    Points Awarded:

    ChuckyTheGoat gave bobbyfk 8 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  12. #12
    BOA12
    BOA12's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-19-12
    Posts: 18,592
    Betpoints: 1317

    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyfk View Post
    not playing the favorite here

    1-2-5-9 $2 exacta box most likely
    1 8 exacta $12.00. Only playing #1 WP, like the value on your play. Homework doer.
    Last edited by BOA12; 06-20-20 at 12:42 PM.

  13. #13
    DrunkHorseplayer
    Redskins forever
    DrunkHorseplayer's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-15-10
    Posts: 6,738
    Betpoints: 17037

    The chalk won't lose if he runs even his B+ race. If it was a mile and a half, I might try to beat him but not at a mile and an eighth. Looks like 1/2 and goodbye.

  14. #14
    BOA12
    BOA12's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-19-12
    Posts: 18,592
    Betpoints: 1317

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    The chalk won't lose if he runs even his B+ race. If it was a mile and a half, I might try to beat him but not at a mile and an eighth. Looks like 1/2 and goodbye.
    2 horse race, to me, you got it right. 3/5?

  15. #15
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,351
    Betpoints: 7550

    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    Holy shit. A horse racing post from the horse racing mod
    It's crazy mad world we live in these days Philly.

    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: USCPHILLYGUY

  16. #16
    DrunkHorseplayer
    Redskins forever
    DrunkHorseplayer's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-15-10
    Posts: 6,738
    Betpoints: 17037

    Only way to play this is hope the chalk doesn't show up and try for boxcars. I'll take a $12 flyer on a $1 tri 2,3/2,3,9,10/2,3,9,10.
    Last edited by DrunkHorseplayer; 06-20-20 at 02:11 PM.

  17. #17
    USCPHILLYGUY
    HORSES MODERATOR
    USCPHILLYGUY's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-15-12
    Posts: 21,372
    Betpoints: 24192

    Great promo on 4njbets. You bet a horse to win and it places or shows you get your win ticket refunded.

  18. #18
    hanco21
    The Lord of No Rings..AJ Smith Egomaniac
    hanco21's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-19-06
    Posts: 3,397
    Betpoints: 2035

    The Law wins everytime.....Bluelivesmatter

  19. #19
    pologq
    When you are SBR you are SBR 4 Life
    pologq's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-07-12
    Posts: 19,873
    Betpoints: 5971

    jj posting what we need today

  20. #20
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 27,697
    Betpoints: 21183

    Quote Originally Posted by hanco21 View Post
    The Law wins everytime.....Bluelivesmatter

    hanco...u a Charlie Joiner fan?

  21. #21
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 27,697
    Betpoints: 21183

    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyfk View Post
    not playing the favorite here

    1-2-5-9 $2 exacta box most likely
    If it hits, I'll ship u some pts, pal.

  22. #22
    gummo
    Bearcats
    gummo's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-04-06
    Posts: 6,299
    Betpoints: 1147

    Tremendous value on Solo Volante

  23. #23
    sweethook
    sweethook's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-21-07
    Posts: 12,643
    Betpoints: 9824

    put me it charlie

  24. #24
    Foxx
    Foxx's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-25-11
    Posts: 5,669
    Betpoints: 9657

    Think the favorite gets it done

  25. #25
    hanco21
    The Lord of No Rings..AJ Smith Egomaniac
    hanco21's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-19-06
    Posts: 3,397
    Betpoints: 2035

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    hanco...u a Charlie Joiner fan?
    Great player, a little before my time though

  26. #26
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 394,847
    Betpoints: 10

    franco will fuk it up

  27. #27
    KnuckleHeadz
    KnuckleHeadz's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-11-19
    Posts: 8,169
    Betpoints: 4126

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    franco will fuk it up
    What did you do with that homo who cry’s from his patio? Have t heard from him since last weekend

  28. #28
    hanco21
    The Lord of No Rings..AJ Smith Egomaniac
    hanco21's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-19-06
    Posts: 3,397
    Betpoints: 2035

    Easy money

  29. #29
    dark star
    dark star's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-04-09
    Posts: 3,889
    Betpoints: 5406

    I was balls deep on 3...oh well great race

  30. #30
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 394,847
    Betpoints: 10

    Good work on all the winners I got blasted today I don’t mean a lot of money just lost a lot of races

  31. #31
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 27,697
    Betpoints: 21183

    Quote Originally Posted by hanco21 View Post
    Great player, a little before my time though
    ok, PAL. Catch u later, hope your teams win.

  32. #32
    SBR_Guest_Pro
    SBR Intern
    SBR_Guest_Pro's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-10-15
    Posts: 3,959
    Betpoints: 2933

    american pharaoh is being forced to change his name. racist against pharaoh's

  33. #33
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 394,847
    Betpoints: 10

    I wonder if that horse has
    A shot at the Triple Crown

  34. #34
    ChuckyTheGoat
    ChuckyTheGoat's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-04-11
    Posts: 27,697
    Betpoints: 21183

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I wonder if that horse has
    A shot at the Triple Crown
    Being talked up as a big-time horse.

  35. #35
    DrunkHorseplayer
    Redskins forever
    DrunkHorseplayer's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-15-10
    Posts: 6,738
    Betpoints: 17037

    He has a big shot at a not-really-a-triple-crown.

Top