and nobody with a brain is surprisedOriginally Posted by Kermit
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05-09-20 12:23 AM #36
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05-09-20 12:30 AM #37
Sure, but how do you feel about it? Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron
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05-09-20 12:30 AM #38
3rd world here we come. free free free for everyone . no need to work
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05-09-20 12:35 AM #39
Where is the logic behind someone making less than $1,000 when working receiving $2,000 when not working? Wouldn't it make more sense for the checks to be somewhat based on regular income instead?
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05-09-20 12:39 AM #40
Not questioning the stat you heard but a quick search revealed this to me: Originally Posted by Kermit
CDC Data:
Average Age of Those Who Have Died from COVID-19 in U.S. 75
Source: https://tinyurl.com/ybcojx3r
The current life expectancy for U.S. in 2020 is 78.9
a 0.08% increase from 2019.
Source:
https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...ife-expectancy
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05-09-20 12:43 AM #41
Agreed! Originally Posted by juicername
However, I believe "tip" earners and other GIG economy workers
should be provided for in a fair & reasonable manner as their
typical means of earning income is also on hold.
Also,
what happens to the health insurance of workers who had company
health insurance before bankruptcy...or prior to being layed off?
Are they no longer covered?Last edited by mezmurized2; 05-09-20 at 12:46 AM.
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05-09-20 12:43 AM #42
i'm not worried about COVID at all... haven't been since the start. my sister had it in december (she didn't know of course at that time) and we were all at her house for christmas dinner and nobody got sick after that Originally Posted by blankoblanco
been working this whole time
my 90 year old grandpa goes grocery shopping without a mask on
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05-09-20 01:25 AM #43
Originally Posted by mezmurized2
Your quick search reveals the stats for the US. I didn't mention anything about the location.
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05-09-20 01:30 AM #44
Originally Posted by mezmurized2
Agreed!
However, I believe "tip" earners and other GIG economy workers
should be provided for in a fair & reasonable manner as their
typical means of earning income is also on hold.
Also,
what happens to the health insurance of workers who had company
health insurance before bankruptcy...or prior to being layed off?
Are they no longer covered?
As I can speak from experience in the field is that "Tip earners" lie about what they actually earn.
At the restaurant I used to manage 10 years ago, the servers would turn in their tip reports every Sunday, and Monday morning we would go through them and input the numbers into Payroll.
These girls(and a few guys) would report that they made $175 in tips knowing the exact number to report against their hourly rate of $2.81 so that their paycheck would balance out at Zero.
The reality was that they were pulling $600 to $700 every week.
So how do you claim you are making $175 a week for 10 years and now all of a sudden say that you need $600 a week to live on?
This is a prime example of lying about what you make can come back and bite you in the ass.
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05-09-20 01:42 AM #45
Originally Posted by Kermit
Agreed!
For those people who lied, karma might be a b1tch!
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05-09-20 01:52 AM #46
Originally Posted by King Mayan
Don't forget Trillions in tax cuts for the 1% and large corporations.
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05-09-20 01:59 AM #47
Early NYC numbers Apr 14 Originally Posted by Kermit
AGE
Number of Deaths Share of deaths With underlying conditions Without underlying conditions Unknown if with underlying cond. Share of deaths
of unknown + w/o cond.0 - 17 years old30.04%3000%18 - 44 years old3094.5%24425401.0%45 - 64 years old1,58123.1%1,343591793.5%65 - 74 years old1,68324.6%1,272263856.0%75+ years old3,26347.7%2,2892794714.2%TOTAL6,839100%5,1511371,55124.68%
[1] Underlying illnesses include Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, and GI/Liver Disease. [source]
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05-09-20 02:03 AM #48
BREAKING: A member of Mike Pence's staff has tested positive for coronavirus. Maybe every member of this administration making a public point not to wear masks wasn’t the smartest move in retrospect?
A *second* Pence staffer has now tested positive for coronavirus. It’s almost like the virus isn’t deterred by shallow displays of American exceptionalism?
UPDATE: One of the staffers confirmed to have the virus is Mike Pence's press secretary, Katie Miller. Katie Miller is married to Stephen Miller, one of Trump's top advisers.
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05-09-20 02:04 AM #49
Originally Posted by mezmurized2
Agreed!
However, I believe "tip" earners and other GIG economy workers
should be provided for in a fair & reasonable manner as their
typical means of earning income is also on hold.
Also,
what happens to the health insurance of workers who had company
health insurance before bankruptcy...or prior to being layed off?
Are they no longer covered?
You both make good points Originally Posted by Kermit
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05-09-20 02:05 AM #50
Don't be so sure. Originally Posted by Vikings2
He rubber stamped the last one which was socialist economic policy in a nutshell.
It's almost as if Bernie Sanders has been wearing a Donald Trump mask since mid-March.
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05-09-20 02:06 AM #51
Yes, you are correct. Originally Posted by Kermit
I just thought I would make my response more relevent to us
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05-09-20 02:07 AM #52
MADISON, Wis. — More than 70 people who tested positive for the coronavirus since an April 24 rally at the Wisconsin state Capitol indicated they had attended a large gathering, but the state Department of Health Services cant’ say if they were at the rally because it is not tracking specific events.Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Goodsitt said Friday that when someone tests positive for COVID-19 they are asked if they attended any large gatherings. But the department did not add the April 24 rally, which attracted about 1,500 people, to the list of specific questions.PHOTOS: 1,500 gather at Madison Capitol in planned, permitless protest to Safer at Home extensionThe department did add a question after the April 7 election to determine if people had been at the polls. As of Thursday, 67 people who were tested positive for COVID-19 had also reported being at the polls. But because many of them had other exposures, health officials have not been able to conclusively determine where they caught the virus.The rally was organized and attended by people who oppose the state’s Safer at Home order and want to allow more businesses to reopen sooner than would be currently allowed. The order expires on May 26.Capitol police did not grant a permit for the rally because it went against the stay-at-home order, which prohibits public gatherings of any size.Many of those in attendance did not maintain a 6-foot distance from others, or wear masks or other protective gear.The state health department said there have been 1,986 confirmed cases where onset or diagnosis happened on or after April 26. Of those, 72 people reported attending a large gathering.
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05-09-20 02:08 AM #53
That's always been your life motto, hasn't it. Originally Posted by Brock Landers
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05-09-20 02:16 AM #54
GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) — The Trump administration shelved a document created by the nation’s top disease investigators with step-by-step advice to local authorities on how and when to reopen restaurants and other public places during the still-raging coronavirus outbreak.The 17-page report by a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention team, titled “Guidance for Implementing the Opening Up America Again Framework,” was researched and written to help faith leaders, business owners, educators and state and local officials as they begin to reopen.It was supposed to be published last Friday, but agency scientists were told the guidance “would never see the light of day,” according to a CDC official. The official was not authorized to talk to reporters and spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity.The AP obtained a copy from a second federal official who was not authorized to release it. The guidance was described in AP stories last week, prior to the White House decision to shelve it.The Trump administration has been closely controlling the release of guidance and information during the pandemic spurred by a new coronavirus that scientists are still trying to understand, with the president himself leading freewheeling daily briefings until last week.Traditionally, it’s been the CDC’s role to give the public and local officials guidance and science-based information during public health crises. During this one, however, the CDC has not had a regular, pandemic-related news briefing in nearly two months. CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield has been a member of the White House coronavirus task force, but largely absent from public appearances.MORE ON THE OUTBREAK:
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The dearth of real-time, public information from the nation’s experts has struck many current and former government health officials as dangerous.“CDC has always been the public health agency Americans turn to in a time of crisis,” said Dr. Howard Koh, a Harvard professor and former health official in the Obama administration during the H1N1 swine flu pandemic in 2009. “The standard in a crisis is to turn to them for the latest data and latest guidance and the latest press briefing. That has not occurred, and everyone sees that.”The Trump administration has instead sought to put the onus on states to handle COVID-19 response. This approach to managing the pandemic has been reflected in President Donald Trump’s public statements, from the assertion that he isn’t responsible for the country’s lackluster early testing efforts, to his description last week of the federal government’s role as a “supplier of last resort” for states in need of testing aid.A person close to the White House’s coronavirus task force said the CDC documents were never cleared by CDC leadership for public release. The person said White House officials have refrained from offering detailed guidance for how specific sectors should reopen because the virus is affecting various parts of the country differently. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.Full Coverage: Virus Outbreak
Asked Thursday about the CDC report, White House coronavirus adviser Dr. Deborah Birx said: “No one has stopped those guidelines. We’re still in editing.” She told CNN, ”It was more about simplification.”The reopening guidance was described by one of the federal officials as a touchstone document that was to be used as a blueprint for other groups inside the CDC who are creating the same type of instructional materials for other facilities.The guidance contained detailed advice for making site-specific decisions related to reopening schools, restaurants, summer camps, churches, day care centers and other institutions. It had been widely shared within the CDC and included detailed “decision trees,” flow charts to be used by local officials to think through different scenarios. One page of the document can be found on the CDC website via search engines, but it did not appear to be linked to any other CDC pages.Some of the report’s suggestions already appear on federal websites. But the guidance offered specific, tailored recommendations for reopening in one place.For example, the report suggested restaurants and bars should install sneeze guards at cash registers and avoid having buffets, salad bars and drink stations. Similar tips appear on the CDC’s site and a Food and Drug Administration page.But the shelved report also said that as restaurants start seating diners again, they should space tables at least 6 feet (1.8 meters) apart and try to use phone app technology to alert a patron when their table is ready to avoid touching and use of buzzers. That’s not on the CDC’s site now.“States and local health departments do need guidance on a lot of the challenges around the decision to reopen,” said Dr. Marcus Plescia, chief medical officer of the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials. “You can say that restaurants can open and you need to follow social distancing guidelines. But restaurants want to know, ‘What does that look like?’”The White House’s own “Opening Up America Again” guidelines released last month were more vague than the CDC’s unpublished report. They instructed state and local governments to reopen in accordance with federal and local “regulations and guidance” and to monitor employees for symptoms of COVID-19. The White House guidance also included advice developed earlier in the pandemic that remains important like social distancing and encouraging working from home.At a briefing Wednesday, White House spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany echoed the administration’s stance that states are most responsible for their own COVID-19 response: “We’ve consulted individually with states, but as I said, it’s (a) governor-led effort. It’s a state-led effort on ... which the federal government will consult. And we do so each and every day.”The CDC is hearing daily from state and county health departments looking for scientifically valid information with which to make informed decisions.Still, behind the scenes, CDC scientists like those who produced the guidance for “Opening Up America Again″ are working to get information to local governments. The agency still employs hundreds of the world’s most respected epidemiologists and doctors, who in times of crisis are looked to for their expertise, said former CDC director Tom Frieden. People have clicked on the CDC’s coronavirus website more than 1.2 billion times.States that directly reach out to the CDC can tap guidance that’s been prepared but that the White House has not released.“I don’t think that any state feels that the CDC is deficient. It’s just the process of getting stuff out,” Plescia said.
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05-09-20 03:11 AM #55
i gotta work like a day ad a half to make that much
what am i supposed to do the rest of the month?
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05-09-20 03:14 AM #56
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05-09-20 03:19 AM #57
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05-09-20 05:02 AM #58
Yep and your name is Moron
Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron
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05-09-20 05:16 AM #59
Trump really is the second coming! God Bless his soul!
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05-09-20 05:42 AM #60
I think that will be the final nail in our economic coffin.
I'm starting to get "conspiracy" vibes. (as in wiping out the middle class)Last edited by Roscoe_Word; 05-09-20 at 05:46 AM. Reason: later thought
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05-09-20 05:42 AM #61
the death rate is very high over 45
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05-09-20 05:47 AM #62
CR bookies are praying this will PASS
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05-09-20 05:49 AM #63
Sammy USA bookies too
They are way closer to bankruptcy because of massive Costs and debt they are in already from start up
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05-09-20 05:52 AM #64
JJ
75% of posters would lose all stimulus $$$ to bookies
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05-09-20 09:50 AM #65
This would be the most likely scenario. It wouldn't be per month, but maybe another lump sum payment of $2k. Originally Posted by blankoblanco
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05-09-20 10:29 AM #66
to those that suggested on page 1 that this does not pass
some form of it will pass and it will be right around $2k / month
to the men over 50 and 60, in the next decade might not be a bad time to leave the planet for the kids
there will be no SS anyway
and do you really want a chip in your ass?
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05-09-20 10:44 AM #67
Truly mind boggling Originally Posted by goduke
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05-09-20 12:26 PM #68
Our dollar is going to be so weak
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05-09-20 12:34 PM #69
i like how they go from saying monthly to days. Whoever wrote this is a novice
$2,000 a MONTH for up to 90 DAYS.... idiots...
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05-09-20 12:41 PM #70
What shocks me is you believing that ANY political party is lookout for the common folk. All politicians regardless of party do not give two fukks about any of us Originally Posted by goduke
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