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    Vladimir Nemashkalo ML (-230) vs Ilya Novikov
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    Nemashkalo is on fire lately...I refer to him as "myagi"...bol


    took shirokov ml (+134) vs petkov...


    *DEAD 3-1...he phuckin sucks
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    took vladimirovich to win over ovchinnikov...O wins first two, then V takes two...then V loses in 5th set. DEAD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELNATURAL View Post
    Ok the people betting this sport.

    How do you decide on a winner?

    Must be some angle here. Does anyone who bets these matches know each players ability ?

    Lefty vs lefty or lefty vs righty better?

    I’m intrigued.
    Honestly, deciding on the winner doesn't really help gambling in any sport. If I spent my business trying to figure out who would win in major American sports, it would be a tough grind. I know this because I do and I have.

    Picking winners could be the easy part of gambling, but making money off of that is the tough part.

    I think that year when the GS Warriors won a record number of games, a bettor laying them each game would have been up about 9 units. The next year they were 67-15 and the better hitting each game lost a couple units.

    I do not think the market is efficient but I do avoid the closer matches and odds. I like looking at the players that are over -300 in the market, and even if I can figure them to be -500 or -600, making value, I’ve just been hitting them in the open parlays.

    What I’ve found is that those guys that are big favorites, in some of the leagues, of course win; but usually win 3-0 or 3-1. It’s not usually a 3-2 venture and the LIVE markets are using cookie cutter odds.

    These cookie cutter odds are not tailored to the individual matches and some of these big favorites can become real value to win 3-0 or 3-1. Also, when the dog does surprise early and wins the 1st match, I’ve found a lot of success hitting that 3-1.

    There is a lot pinging and ponging and the better players revert back to norm and tend to stay better quickly.

    Quick enough to pick up a buck or two LIVE, if you’re paying attention. It’s not unlike the major sports, the markets tend to have pockets that fall behind in odds adjustments. Fortunately in the major sports, those pockets can rotate and repeat.

    You do have to pay attention but this is how you can win money in sports betting without being too focused on how to pick the winner of an individual game or match.

    Being creative at how you look at what’s offered and the market as a whole.
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    All that said, I do not like the Ukranian Win Cup as much.

    A -380 favorite went up 2-0 and should have cleaned up, but took it to 5 anyway. I was not in it LIVE, thankfully, but did have the -380 as the 3rd pick in an open 4 pick.

    A little too close for comfort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cecil127 View Post
    Nemashkalo is on fire lately...I refer to him as "myagi"...
    Hit with Nemashkalo at -325 now he's +377 against Stanislav Bychkov at 10:20 PST tonight, Bychov is -685.

    But Stanslav Bychkov is a +271 dog to Roman Pavlenko at 8:50 PST, Pavlenko is -435.

    How good is Pavlenko?

    Trying to map the solid guys but the odds are just crazy with some of these Russina Pro League matches.
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    myagi has beaten bychkov 1 out of 13 meetings.
    pavlenkos rolling tough lately.
    18 meetings w/bychkov and bychkovs won 7. last seven games won by pavlenko. hell, byhkov only won 5 of those 26 sets played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Hit with Nemashkalo at -325 now he's +377 against Stanislav Bychkov at 10:20 PST tonight, Bychov is -685.But Stanslav Bychkov is a +271 dog to Roman Pavlenko at 8:50 PST, Pavlenko is -435...
    ...Trying to map the solid guys but the odds are just crazy with some of these Russina Pro League matches.
    The lines...

    9:20
    Pavlenko -630
    Bychkov +358

    10:20
    Bychkov -730
    Nemashkalo +396

    10:50
    Pavlenko -210
    Nemashkalo +148

    Is this a left/right thing like El Natural mentioned above?

    Also, there's a good example of a pair that one might avoid in game Pavlenko/Byshkov.

    You're right, it's only 5 of 26 sets, but they have history for such a big line...



    There aren't enough 3-0's here and too many 3-2's.

    But I like the rich history.
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    Now I know he's a big favorite with Bychkov, but look at this history...



    We don't have the LIVE line yet, but there could be a 3-0 or, if myagi wins set number 1, a 3-1 bet out there.

    I don't know though, I like the -300 to -480 type range. It seems like the best LIVE numbers are found there. We don't typically see many -730's to work with here.

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    Took Trushkin to win in 3 sets vs Ivanov and arutiunyan +640

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    KVB,

    You are saying to play the favourites live if they are losing early. Ok.

    The in game live odds change very quickly and the “swings” in these games are incredible. You have to be quick!

    So many games. I wouldn’t be surprised if some are fixed.

    Anyone here wager over $10,000 on a ping pong match before ?

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    Trushy +145 live down 2-1

    Cashed it.

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    These guys are still going to at it tremendous

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    someone tell me the score keepers are not also the judges in these matches...cause theyre also players! thinking/hoping judges are off screen?

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    If anyone using 5dimes, their lines are sometimes way off from pinnacle/ bookmaker. Just something I noticed, not even sure if it's a proper market at pinn but maybe someone can use to their benefit

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    Do they play till like 3 or 4 am their local time,seems like their playing ping pong 20 hours a day in Russia and Ukraine?

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    My lock of the day is Viktor Ivanov (-175) over Alexander Hribkov at 12:30.
    parlayed with Belarus Premier League Soccer

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    loser

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    chasing with Gribkov(-163) over Yuri Merkushin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420 View Post
    chasing with Gribkov(-163) over Yuri Merkushin
    good call.

    liking Bazilevsky to win vs Ivanov @ 2:30pm est (-110)
    also Grib to beat lyfenko @ 4 pm est. (-186)
    and Nemashkalo to win vs petrov (+162)

    parlayed +669

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    baz chit the bed...
    grib (-180) vs lyfenko
    vahnin (-168) vs krokhin
    merckushin (+390) vs yanshaev

    parlayed +1110

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    Quote Originally Posted by cecil127 View Post
    baz chit the bed...
    grib (-180) vs lyfenko
    vahnin (-168) vs krokhin
    merckushin (+390) vs yanshaev

    parlayed +1110
    didnt hit the parlay but caught merckushin +2.5 for some value

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    more juice being laid around here than bodybuilders

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayLA View Post
    didnt hit the parlay but caught merckushin +2.5 for some value
    I was able to catch merkushin @ +500 live after he lost the 1st set...fast and furious
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    like gribkov @ ~+300 vs yanshaev 6:30 pm est.
    for that price im game.

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    This kid is still at this game my God

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    This kid is still at this game my God
    lol cecil lives for the rush

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    ah, if it was sunny ida been on a roof fixing a leak...just something to do to pass the time now that the basement/shop is clean, oils changed on all vehicles, taxes are done, work set up for this week etc...

    gribs won the 1st set but lost the match 3-2...

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    I met Cecil

    6-3
    125

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    lol cecil lives for the rush
    lol

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    Lot of arbs if you can bet at Euro books

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELNATURAL View Post
    KVB,

    You are saying to play the favourites live if they are losing early. Ok.

    The in game live odds change very quickly and the “swings” in these games are incredible. You have to be quick!

    So many games. I wouldn’t be surprised if some are fixed.

    Anyone here wager over $10,000 on a ping pong match before ?
    nearlt impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Lot of arbs if you can bet at Euro books
    yes... lateky been great volleyball and tennis as well ss tqble tennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I met Cecil

    6-3
    125
    ah yea,back in my 'fighting days'...now im up to 132. feel like a blimp.

    like safonov(+104) vs merkushin
    Gribkov (+200) vs yanshaev
    safonov (-110) vs Gribkov
    Last edited by cecil127; 04-27-20 at 06:42 AM.

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