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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanko View Post
    Best tip.... Join SBR so you can learn from JJ.
    no sir

    you won’t learn much from JJ

    he rarely ever includes a write up with his picks

    all he does is post a spreadsheet with 5 random fake $100 bets

    JJ won’t teach you much about women either

    he is a good dude and a dear friend though

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    You'll need a minimum of a $100K if you're eating and paying rent or mortgage off it.

    1.5% of bankroll on any play.

    Have at least 3 outs.

    Get other respected minds around you to ask opinions (Preferably guys that know mathematical edge)

    Work. I mean work. You're looking at 10-12 hour days. It's not wake up, look at stats for 30 minutes,bet, then go to the golf course and drink and tee off and watch the game after. That's what most think. Couldn't be farther from the truth.

    Expect losing streaks and know how to deal with them

    Expect winning streaks and how to deal with them

    Determine if this is what you really want to do for a living. There are easier as much less stressful ways to make a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    the title of the thread is about becoming a professional gambler.... no?

    your response in my opinion was what lacked intelligence.

    You could say becoming a teacher or a doctor is for suckers but hey if that is what someone is passionate about why throw dirt on their dreams?
    Gambling is a vice just like alcohol,drugs, and whores. It's nothing to be proud of and comparing that to being passionate about becoming a doctor or teacher is idiotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swaggy P View Post
    Gambling is a vice just like alcohol,drugs, and whores. It's nothing to be proud of and comparing that to being passionate about becoming a doctor or teacher is idiotic.
    F.u.c.k what everybody else thinks, you sound like a lifetime losing gambler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    F.u.c.k what everybody else thinks, you sound like a lifetime losing gambler.
    Anyone addicted to gambling or is deceived into thinking they can make a living out of it is a loser and needs help.

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    Can simply bonus arb and print $100k a year. If you hit a couple middles or pushes on one it's extra.

    If you are good at multiple forms of gambling like poker, daily fantasy etc where your win-rate can be more defined then you can make even more.

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    look up collegegambler on coverss and youll know how much of a nightmare it was, look up hollywoodcg on youtubee as well youll see him flip out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swaggy P View Post
    Anyone addicted to gambling or is deceived into thinking they can make a living out of it is a loser and needs help.
    How much have you lost ? This industry has definitely been cruel to you. Continue to enjoy waking up early & listening to some asshole tell you what to do everyday, the “Man” has you right where he wants you making money for him. (Unless you are self employed otherwise)

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    sharks, bank loans....

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    open marino pick thread and bet said game for as much as you can muster

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Let me know
    Not much point in letting anyone know as they are not going to do it and most likely dismiss it completely. But here it is anyway:

    -first work on making it profitable, even if it is not a profession.
    -value / expected value is all that matters. I can bet $100 on black on a roulette wheel and the only possible outcomes are to either win $100 or lose $100, but the only thing that matters is losing $5.26 in value.
    -hi-lo count in blackjack or finding video poker with +100% paytables are the most straightforward and easiest ways to win.
    -with spots, only bet the best available line. If the best line available is at a book I don't have access to, there's most likely no bet for me, as I am losing too much value.
    -when betting the best number available, don't need to know anything else about the teams, players, sport.
    -if bets are consistently +EV overall based on the closing line, start betting more.
    -from there, it can become a profession with a professional level income.
    -like I said originally, you're not going to do it and continue to repeat yourself that no one wins, when there are lots of guys who do win doing very little more than what I just outlined here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swaggy P View Post
    Gambling is a vice just like alcohol,drugs, and whores. It's nothing to be proud of and comparing that to being passionate about becoming a doctor or teacher is idiotic.
    Swags anything you do in life when you take it to extremes is probably gonna be bad for you..



    Gambling - If you only play the nickle slots you will be ok

    Alcohol - Drinking a glass of red wine every night is probably good for you.

    Drugs - hmmm? Smoking weed on occasion never killed anyone.

    Whores - Well now that's playing with fire in more ways then one..

    Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-13-20 at 09:52 PM.

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    Learn what the odds/prices mean. You'll see prices like +100, -105, -110, -115 etc every single day. Learn what these prices mean. I'd be surprised if most guys on SBR had any clue at all what the break even percentage was even on a bet like +150.

    Let's say there were 100 marbles in a bag. 39 were blue and 61 were red. If someone offered you the price of +150 if you could blindly pull out a Blue marble... should you take that bet? Why or why not.

    If you cannot answer the question above. You should quit sportsbetting until you can answer it easily.

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    Corbin you’ve been on the gambling forums for 20 years. If you haven't figured it out by now...

    BAUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    Not much point in letting anyone know as they are not going to do it and most likely dismiss it completely. But here it is anyway:

    -first work on making it profitable, even if it is not a profession.
    -value / expected value is all that matters. I can bet $100 on black on a roulette wheel and the only possible outcomes are to either win $100 or lose $100, but the only thing that matters is losing $5.26 in value.
    -hi-lo count in blackjack or finding video poker with +100% paytables are the most straightforward and easiest ways to win.
    -with spots, only bet the best available line. If the best line available is at a book I don't have access to, there's most likely no bet for me, as I am losing too much value.
    -when betting the best number available, don't need to know anything else about the teams, players, sport.
    -if bets are consistently +EV overall based on the closing line, start betting more.
    -from there, it can become a profession with a professional level income.
    -like I said originally, you're not going to do it and continue to repeat yourself that no one wins, when there are lots of guys who do win doing very little more than what I just outlined here.
    You forget about the single or double zeros?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newton0038 View Post
    You forget about the single or double zeros?
    that would qualify as "losing 100"

    the best advice so far is DISABLE THE ONLINE CASINOS

    pretty sure i'm not the only one who has shoved off a ton of money on those damn things

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    Learn what the odds/prices mean. You'll see prices like +100, -105, -110, -115 etc every single day. Learn what these prices mean. I'd be surprised if most guys on SBR had any clue at all what the break even percentage was even on a bet like +150.

    Let's say there were 100 marbles in a bag. 39 were blue and 61 were red. If someone offered you the price of +150 if you could blindly pull out a Blue marble... should you take that bet? Why or why not.

    If you cannot answer the question above. You should quit sportsbetting until you can answer it easily.
    That is such a great question for the forum. I'd live to see a poll go up and all the regulars vote without anyone posting the answer. I bet a decent amount would get it wrong.

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    start with basic ats and over/under stats compare them with model predictors to find discrepancy. The more picks, time goes by learn from mistakes and fine tune your created tool. Do not like the word professional to much pressure for performance, means solely from that source not good. Start with a starter fund and never risk unreasonable amounts, keep small goals and workout the numbers. have fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    that would qualify as "losing 100"

    the best advice so far is DISABLE THE ONLINE CASINOS

    pretty sure i'm not the only one who has shoved off a ton of money on those damn things
    Online casino's is a great way to lose your bank roll. I agree stay far away from them for starters.

  20. #55
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    discipline money management

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    I miss being a pro

    Loved the escorts and attention of being successful

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I miss being a pro

    Loved the escorts and attention of being successful
    what did you in? what was the downfall??

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    that would qualify as "losing 100"

    the best advice so far is DISABLE THE ONLINE CASINOS

    pretty sure i'm not the only one who has shoved off a ton of money on those damn things
    yes sir. i have

  24. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by combination lock View Post
    That is such a great question for the forum. I'd live to see a poll go up and all the regulars vote without anyone posting the answer. I bet a decent amount would get it wrong.
    and your answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden fleece View Post
    what did you in? what was the downfall??

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    best advice ever is think in propabilities not possibilities

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    Thanks men

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    Lot of great posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsamazing777 View Post
    and your answer?
    Take at least 3 preferably more red ones out and you have a deal. Its amazing you were interested.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Casino
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    Tell us mooooore grandpa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by combination lock View Post
    Take at least 3 preferably more red ones out and you have a deal. Its amazing you were interested.....
    .5 edge

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    Best tip? Don’t become a professional. What is your career path? Very limited upside even if “successful”.

    You should diversify your investments for the future. When young, 20-30% of that can be for speculative positions, which gambling could qualify if “invested” properly.

    Admitting you are not smarter or “sharper” than the data analytics programs of book software is your first step. Unless you’re good with python coding and other data tool sets. Then maybe. Specific situations are exceptions like unders in props for the super bowl.

    Once you’ve realized your own bets are likely -EV, look for truly +EV cappers. Talking years of profitability proven.

    Canttouchayo in CBB spreads, doubledime in nhl and CBB totals. A couple names across the pond in CFB.

    Determine their ROI and assign unit values per their wagers. Say you have $5000 to invest, then maybe you tail each of one capper’s plays for $100-$200 each.

    Again, this whole process needs to be efficient and followed by rule not by emotion. Not making your own bets or doubling up a bet if you “like” it. Similar rule applies when investing in stocks. Create a set of trading rules for when to invest and when to sell. Stick to them.

    Otherwise just enjoy sports betting and other gambling as a recreational activity. Don’t gamble over your head.

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    Eagles with a winning post

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    bet for fun and assume a bet as a loss as soon as you bet the money. if it wins, its gravy.

    look at betting as paying for entertainment, not to make money to live.

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    "These are all guesses so take the points and you wont get hurt so bad" - jjgold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    "These are all guesses so take the points and you wont get hurt so bad" - jjgold
    "a butt is a butt, makes no difference if you're sticking it in a man's butt or a woman's butt"

    - sam odom

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