[JayLA]

Zona Cincy total 47??? Looking like ovaaaaa

[2daBank]

Zona Cincy total 47??? Looking like ovaaaaa

Thinking that as well. Should be like a gazillion passes in that game and no scary pass rushers for ginger this week and no prime time lights that hurt his pale skin!!! What the weather gonna be like?

[asiagambler]

McCallister and evens have had some battles!! He don’t usually punk evens like he did cooper last week tho. And Godwiin in the slot a weapon! Shamus always has those picks lurking but I don’t think saints gonna contain these guys like Dallas. For some reason saints and Dallas just tough for each other’s offenses Been a few games now just like last week!

Yeah for sure Godwin and Evans are on a tear, I'm seeing a lot of explosive plays for both sides here. It really depends what kind of gameplan Payton has here. I tried digging around a little and didn't find much. But, Tampa has really shut the run game down. So I just can't see how Saints are going to attack it other than letting Bridgewater throw it, he's got the weapons. Goff threw for over 500 yards on them

[JayLA]

Thinking that as well. Should be like a gazillion passes in that game and no scary pass rushers for ginger this week and no prime time lights that hurt his pale skin!!! What the weather gonna be like?

Cloudy with a Chance of showers

[shocka1212]

on the saints ML... Large

Vikings will cover unfortunately for my giants.. its what Kirk Cousins does against bad secondaries and with the giants being absolutely depleted at linebacker, the tight ends and cook gonna have all those crossing routes anytime they really want em.

I mean, I lean Chicago ats but Oaklands been on the road for almost a month now, they're almost used to this shit by now.

everyone and their mother gonna take packers +3.5 so you know Dallas will cover that #... they really didn't give the ball to Zeke nearly as much as they could have last week. they'll fix that.

if you're digging a long shot parlay, Cards/Titans ML could very well hit.

Also, that Atlanta/Houston game scares the hell out of me. not touching it. Atlanta is a disaster on the road, every stat both on the field and ATS and the better roster is only favored by less than a touchdown? yea somethings fishy enough there to keep me away. Bill Obrien holding them boys back if you ask me. no thanks

[JayLA]

on the saints ML... Large

Naaaaaaaoooo

[asiagambler]

Cincy total I actually bet under 47.5

Does Arizona really not have a pass rush? I thought Chandler Jones and Suggs were doing ok in that regard.

Cincy's OL is really really bad with Cordy Glenn still out.

Also a quote from Zac Taylor I thought maybe hinting they want to run more and take the pressure off Dalton

“The amount of rushes hasn’t been where it needs to be. That’ll carry over to the whole room. It’s not just Joe (HB Joe Mixon), it’s Gio and all of those guys. We need to do a better job of staying on track and getting runs going – the play-actions, the keepers, and all of that stuff is married together. We certainly want to involve our playmakers to the full extent, and Gio hasn’t gotten a ton of touches yet.”

[2daBank]

Yeah for sure Godwin and Evans are on a tear, I'm seeing a lot of explosive plays for both sides here. It really depends what kind of gameplan Payton has here. I tried digging around a little and didn't find much. But, Tampa has really shut the run game down. So I just can't see how Saints are going to attack it other than letting Bridgewater throw it, he's got the weapons. Goff threw for over 500 yards on them

Saints passing game is just not explosive, hasn’t been since week 12 or so last year. Brees and teddy b both dink and dunkers. That kinda why I added on I’m back to liking Tampa ml. Agree Bucs gonna hit explosive plays and I gotta believe Bowles sees the film and his guys gonna be jumping short shit! Make teddy b prove he can hit them over the top!! Can he? I dunno?? This kinda feels like a announce themselves spot to me for Bucs. I said all off season I didn’t like saints to win div, I thought atl would be back but maybe it Tampa? I love their staff, love their weapons, just don’t trust shamus (but I loved him out of college!), could be he just needed better coaching?

[Sol Diablo]

Zona Cincy total 47??? Looking like ovaaaaa

Diablo Jr. told me tonight that AZ gets their first win of the season. When I put him to bed. Even named the score. He says 13-10.

I'm not sure you want to bet against that. LOL

[2daBank]

Cincy total I actually bet under 47.5

Does Arizona really not have a pass rush? I thought Chandler Jones and Suggs were doing ok in that regard.

Cincy's OL is really really bad with Cordy Glenn still out.

Also a quote from Zac Taylor I thought maybe hinting they want to run more and take the pressure off Dalton

“The amount of rushes hasn’t been where it needs to be. That’ll carry over to the whole room. It’s not just Joe (HB Joe Mixon), it’s Gio and all of those guys. We need to do a better job of staying on track and getting runs going – the play-actions, the keepers, and all of that stuff is married together. We certainly want to involve our playmakers to the full extent, and Gio hasn’t gotten a ton of touches yet.”

Makes sense. It’s crazy how little mixon been doing in that offense. I can never figure zona out so you might be right, I never bet their Games really but my leans wrong every week!!

[asiagambler]

Saints passing game is just not explosive, hasn’t been since week 12 or so last year. Brees and teddy b both dink and dunkers. That kinda why I added on I’m back to liking Tampa ml. Agree Bucs gonna hit explosive plays and I gotta believe Bowles sees the film and his guys gonna be jumping short shit! Make teddy b prove he can hit them over the top!! Can he? I dunno?? This kinda feels like a announce themselves spot to me for Bucs. I said all off season I didn’t like saints to win div, I thought atl would be back but maybe it Tampa? I love their staff, love their weapons, just don’t trust shamus (but I loved him out of college!), could be he just needed better coaching?

But how much of that is because of Brees' declining arm strength? Bridgewater in theory has a good arm right? Just hasn't been asked to do much yet. While the numbers might say the passing game isn't explosive, you can't tell me Michael Thomas and Tedd Ginn aren't big play threats!

[JayLA]

But how much of that is because of Brees' declining arm strength? Bridgewater in theory has a good arm right? Just hasn't been asked to do much yet. While the numbers might say the passing game isn't explosive, you can't tell me Michael Thomas and Tedd Ginn aren't big play threats!

Tedd Ginn is a softy

[JayLA]

Diablo Jr. told me tonight that AZ gets their first win of the season. When I put him to bed. Even named the score. He says 13-10.

I'm not sure you want to bet against that. LOL

I think Diablo Jr overestimating the D's in this game..

But you all have about talked me away from it.

So far we got
Ravens-3.5
Bucs+3

[2daBank]

But how much of that is because of Brees' declining arm strength? Bridgewater in theory has a good arm right? Just hasn't been asked to do much yet. While the numbers might say the passing game isn't explosive, you can't tell me Michael Thomas and Tedd Ginn aren't big play threats!

Oh it def because Brees declining arm strength, but I’ve always thought the knock on teddy was limited arm strength as well? I’ll say this much even if I’m right about Tampa I think the over makes a ton of sense. I don’t see Bucs jumping on them and saints not trying to push it down field, I liked under in LA last week and that was shot once Bucs jumped out and rams threw it 97 times! Lol

[asiagambler]

Tedd Ginn is a softy

True but can't deny his speed. That's something can't be taught and probably why he's still in the league!

[2daBank]

I think Diablo Jr overestimating the D's in this game..

But you all have about talked me away from it.

So far we got
Ravens-3.5
Bucs+3

Ravens?? And laying the hook?! We dont like that!! Lol

[shocka1212]

Naaaaaaaoooo

bets already placed but I'm fully expecting to wake up and see the line drop to Tampa +2 for the "fuk my life" moment of the day

[JayLA]

Ravens?? And laying the hook?! We dont like that!! Lol

I know. I'm sold on this Ravens team though. Never one to lay over 3 on the road but call me square!

[asiagambler]

Oh it def because Brees declining arm strength, but I’ve always thought the knock on teddy was limited arm strength as well? I’ll say this much even if I’m right about Tampa I think the over makes a ton of sense. I don’t see Bucs jumping on them and saints not trying to push it down field, I liked under in LA last week and that was shot once Bucs jumped out and rams threw it 97 times! Lol

I honestly don't know regarding Teddy, I assume you're right. But even then, as you said, this looks like it could turn into a shootout. Of course, Payton could play it conservative but I think it's worth taking a shot at 45.5

[2daBank]

on the saints ML... Large

Vikings will cover unfortunately for my giants.. its what Kirk Cousins does against bad secondaries and with the giants being absolutely depleted at linebacker, the tight ends and cook gonna have all those crossing routes anytime they really want em.

I mean, I lean Chicago ats but Oaklands been on the road for almost a month now, they're almost used to this shit by now.

everyone and their mother gonna take packers +3.5 so you know Dallas will cover that #... they really didn't give the ball to Zeke nearly as much as they could have last week. they'll fix that.

if you're digging a long shot parlay, Cards/Titans ML could very well hit.

Also, that Atlanta/Houston game scares the hell out of me. not touching it. Atlanta is a disaster on the road, every stat both on the field and ATS and the better roster is only favored by less than a touchdown? yea somethings fishy enough there to keep me away. Bill Obrien holding them boys back if you ask me. no thanks

Large huh? Feels insane to me but I Been wrong a lot this year! lol.

You absolutely right bout O’Brien, and he killing their future w his desperation to save his job throwing away draft picks left and right shit!! Guy is a total hack. Has a star at qb and doesn’t even understand protection schemes! Although I don’t see atl front being a huge problem for them. I’d be far more confident in Houston than minny myself.

[asiagambler]

I know. I'm sold on this Ravens team though. Never one to lay over 3 on the road but call me square!

I just couldn't bet either side of this game because I think Brandon Williams is really really important to how it plays out. Browns ran all over them last week and a big reason was because Williams was out.

I posted in a nother thread that Ravens were looking to sign Domata Peko mid week but weren't successful. It seems to me that this would seem to indicate Williams is more doubtful for this game. i can see Conner having a big game with Williams out. Pittsburgh OL is pretty damn good too.

[2daBank]

I know. I'm sold on this Ravens team though. Never one to lay over 3 on the road but call me square!

Bro, even back when I loved the ravens I always always always take the points when I can get more than 3 in this series. These games destined to come down to the end for life!!! I’m not sure what you sold on about them now? They beat Miami and zona!! Their defense a shell of itself, I like Roman calling plays for Lamar (he was kap OC as well when he had his sick run), I like they brought Ingram in and think saints miss him, but Steelers ain’t done this year yet. This game going to wire.

[shocka1212]

Large huh? Feels insane to me but I Been wrong a lot this year! lol.

You absolutely right bout O’Brien, and he killing their future w his desperation to save his job throwing away draft picks left and right shit!! Guy is a total hack. Has a star at qb and doesn’t even understand protection schemes! Although I don’t see atl front being a huge problem for them. I’d be far more confident in Houston than minny myself.

Tunsil not even worth a 3rd rounder in my book but what do I know.

[2daBank]

I just couldn't bet either side of this game because I think Brandon Williams is really really important to how it plays out. Browns ran all over them last week and a big reason was because Williams was out.

I posted in a nother thread that Ravens were looking to sign Domata Peko mid week but weren't successful. It seems to me that this would seem to indicate Williams is more doubtful for this game. i can see Conner having a big game with Williams out. Pittsburgh OL is pretty damn good too.

Ravens d has issues all over, they have lost so much. I think they will improve as harbaugh teams tend to do on d but you right, Steelers oline is excellent. This div is so wide open, cincy only team not in it.

[2daBank]

Tunsil not even worth a 3rd rounder in my book but what do I know.

I mean he built like and possesses the attributes of a elite tackle, havnt seen him ever play like it tho. I thought getting him and stills was incredibly helpful to this years team but a gm with any eye to future doesn’t make that trade imo.

[asiagambler]

I have to admit, the Steelers +3.5 is looking attractive but to me Rudolph just hasn't shown me enough. Ravens' secondary is still injured but is Rudolph good enough to take advantage? I'm not sure. Plus who knows what kind shape Mike Tomlin has the team in. I wouldn't be shocked at all if his team lays a giant egg

[JayLA]

I have to admit, the Steelers +3.5 is looking attractive but to me Rudolph just hasn't shown me enough. Ravens' secondary is still injured but is Rudolph good enough to take advantage? I'm not sure. Plus who knows what kind shape Mike Tomlin has the team in. I wouldn't be shocked at all if his team lays a giant egg

That's what I'm betting on! I think tomlins out next year!

[2daBank]

I have to admit, the Steelers +3.5 is looking attractive but to me Rudolph just hasn't shown me enough. Ravens' secondary is still injured but is Rudolph good enough to take advantage? I'm not sure. Plus who knows what kind shape Mike Tomlin has the team in. I wouldn't be shocked at all if his team lays a giant egg

Really? I don’t buy that for a second. I’ve got plenty of issues w Tomlin but having his team ready for game like this has rarely been a problem imo. I still think Rudolph can be a legit starter in this league but he hasn’t been as good as I thought he might be. Cardinals went up and down the field on this ravens secondary tho, I think he gonna be fine.

[JayLA]

I think Humphrey can hold juju

[asiagambler]

Really? I don’t buy that for a second. I’ve got plenty of issues w Tomlin but having his team ready for game like this has rarely been a problem imo. I still think Rudolph can be a legit starter in this league but he hasn’t been as good as I thought he might be. Cardinals went up and down the field on this ravens secondary tho, I think he gonna be fine.

It's true his teams have generally played well in these divisional rivalries. Something seemed off last week though. He looked like his team just won the Super Bowl when they beat the Bengals

[2daBank]

I think Humphrey can hold juju

Honestly like I said in 1st post matchups, analysis, who even playing means very little to me here., I still look at these teams as being extremely close and I know what happens most the times when they play, if you gave me 3.5 w ravens id take it too! And really think it a gift getting it with home team!! You telling me in Balty this spread is 9-10??? There no fukkin way these teams are separated by that much and Steelers have a legit home field!!

[2daBank]

It's true his teams have generally played well in these divisional rivalries. Something seemed off last week though. He looked like his team just won the Super Bowl when they beat the Bengals

Lol. I dunno, maybe you reading into too much or I’m not nearly enough! I’d say it was relief for a team that knows they better than they started off, surely that win won’t make this team complacent? I can’t buy that! I won’t!

[asiagambler]

Lol. I dunno, maybe you reading into too much or I’m not nearly enough! I’d say it was relief for a team that knows they better than they started off, surely that win won’t make this team complacent? I can’t buy that! I won’t!

Your guess is as good as mine. Sometimes it feels like I'm trying to read tea leaves handicapping this stuff lol

[JayLA]

That's why we're here boys. Love Asia and banks chopping it up

[2daBank]

I’m starting to get little tired tho and we mostly now talking bout a game I’m freaking committed too!! Lol. Need some more thoughts/ideas on others. I had kinda a hard time w this card filling out the sbr point version of westgate contest w no totals to choose from!!

I used Steelers, bears in both, giants niners Bucs for 1 of them and colts packers in another (hate those 2 actually now, have to submit before I started really focusing on card, lol).,