need help on a Cricket dispute

forex · 10-02-07, 11:13 AM

I don't even know what a wicket is and quite frankly don't want to know. I don't consider it a sport.

BigBollocks · 10-02-07, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by forex

I don't even know what a wicket is and quite frankly don't want to know. I don't consider it a sport.

Well then you certainly shouldn't (and probably don't) consider baseball a sport, seeing as how baseball derived from cricket. Cricket involves a lot of eye contact and solid fielding, and in my opinion is a more difficult game than baseball. It's the 2nd biggest game in the world, and thus the sheer number of people who play the game make it even tougher to crack into the elite.

In reading your post you're probably an American who absolutely loves baseball and doesn't know what the hell you're talking about, but even you say you "don't know and quite frankly don't want to know." Seems to be the mantra of American youth these days. Not only our we getting progressively dumber, but we're aggressive in maintaining our ignorance.

BigBollocks · 10-02-07, 11:55 AM

Sorry Justin, as for your question I'll answer it later on tonight if no one else has chimed in. Are you just looking for general grading rules and the game format differences between a 20/20 and a test match, or do you have a specific grading dispute that you're trying to get to the bottom of? Cheers....

vanman · 10-02-07, 01:02 PM

a test match is played over 5 days and they can end in a draw.
a 20/20 match takes about three hours to play each team has 20 overs to score as many runs as they can if the scores are level they have what they call a bowl out to determine the winner so for grading purposes the bowl out should be included

forex · 10-02-07, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by BigBollocks

Well then you certainly shouldn't (and probably don't) consider baseball a sport, seeing as how baseball derived from cricket. Cricket involves a lot of eye contact and solid fielding, and in my opinion is a more difficult game than baseball. It's the 2nd biggest game in the world, and thus the sheer number of people who play the game make it even tougher to crack into the elite.

In reading your post you're probably an American who absolutely loves baseball and doesn't know what the hell you're talking about, but even you say you "don't know and quite frankly don't want to know." Seems to be the mantra of American youth these days. Not only our we getting progressively dumber, but we're aggressive in maintaining our ignorance.

In response to your comment. How do you quantify cricket is the 2nd biggest game in the world? I actually hate baseball also. The only sports that I consider actually sports are soccer, football, hockey, rugby and maybe a few others that I can't think of.

If you are quantifying it by location, sure, the asian countries have the most people but that doesn't mean the amount of players makes it an elitist game. I am sure a lot of people would like to be pros but it's not possible for them because of the social norm where education is before sports over there.

As for your comment about (Not only our we getting progressively dumber, but we're aggressive in maintaining our ignorance), well I concur, and the third word in that sentence speaks for itself.

Art Vandeleigh · 10-02-07, 04:47 PM

I've seen cricket a couple of times, don't know too much about it, seems like baseball where foul territory is actually fair territory, and there's only a home plate and 2nd base. It does seem very challenging though.

I'd say at least two things need to change to make it a more appealing game to Americans, the first would be to change some rules to add drama to the game, not too many matches end up going down to the wire. The second suggestion I'd have is instead of a tea-break in the afternoon they might want to change it to a Heineken break, you never know it could give baseball a run for it's money with those adjustments.

Santo · 10-02-07, 06:14 PM

Of course, we don't really care about making it appealing for Americans, as it does just fine as is

Vanman gave the answer, and I'd suspect it's related to the bowl out in the 20/20 WC, but would be interested to see the details of the dispute.

Justin7 · 10-03-07, 09:49 AM

thanks for the responses (and explanation, Vanman).

tribet · 10-03-07, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by vanman

a test match is played over 5 days and they can end in a draw.
a 20/20 match takes about three hours to play each team has 20 overs to score as many runs as they can if the scores are level they have what they call a bowl out to determine the winner so for grading purposes the bowl out should be included

Bowl outs are not always included it depends on the book,Justin which book is it?

Justin7 · 10-03-07, 11:43 AM

tribet,

I don't normally identify books or players during the dispute resolution. If the investigation concludes with the book in the wrong, I'll identify it.

tribet · 10-03-07, 12:11 PM

Well I know the rules but without knowing which book it is can't really clarify it for you.

vanman · 10-03-07, 03:02 PM

If the book in question makes no mention of bowl outs not included then they surely must pay out on the official result which would be after any bowl out as the rules of cricket state that in the event of a tie then a bowl out is used to determine a winner.

bigboydan · 10-23-07, 12:50 AM

How did this one ever turn out Justin?