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    Carr quits when he gets hit - Game will be decided through the trenches - can wake and Quinn get 2 carr? Oakland O-line is solid - BOL OP

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    You're going to be on the losing side of the bet, my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgame85 View Post
    This is one of the nonsense lines you get week 3. If the books really thought Miami was a true favorite then a 2-0 team at home vs 0-2 would be much higher than -3. Raiders a much better team and will prove it Sunday.
    thats a solid point

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Carr quits when he gets hit - Game will be decided through the trenches - can wake and Quinn get 2 carr? Oakland O-line is solid - BOL OP
    Look at these numbers Carr vs Tannehill

    Overall PFF grade: Carr 71.2 and Tannehill 66.2 (out of 100)

    Passer rating when clean: Carr 101.7 and Tannehill 101.1

    Passer rating under pressure: Carr 33.1 and Tannehill 122.9

    Turn over worthy plays: Carr 3.61% and Tannehill 6.25% just to clarify when i say Carr has 3.61% that is the percentage of all his plays that are either turnovers like INTs and fumbles or potential turnovers like dropped INTs or calls reversed etc.

    Derek Carr this season has been under pressure on 19 drop backs, hes 9 for 17 with 108 yards, two INTs and two sacks

    Ryan Tannehill this season has been under pressure on 13 drop backs, hes 5 for 8 with 58 yards, one TD and 5 sacks

    I know its really earlier but these numbers tell me that when Carr is under pressure hes either trying to make plays, or throwing the ball away.... where Tannehill is taking sacks. Tannehill is at the helm of a very conservative and slow-paced offense and has thrown his two INT's under no pressure.

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    no way

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    saw gruden today talking in code. that khalil trade was not his doing. it was a financial move. he has been talking pass rusher all week as all heat has been on him about the move. even saying the kids coming out college aren't great pass rushers and how hard they are to find. Schefter reported long ago the team was cash strapped and couldn't afford to even pay a signing bonus. this move was above gruden's head at ownership level. but he got 100 mil so wtf is he really gonna say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEDDY@604 View Post
    Look at these numbers Carr vs Tannehill

    Overall PFF grade: Carr 71.2 and Tannehill 66.2 (out of 100)

    Passer rating when clean: Carr 101.7 and Tannehill 101.1

    Passer rating under pressure: Carr 33.1 and Tannehill 122.9

    Turn over worthy plays: Carr 3.61% and Tannehill 6.25% just to clarify when i say Carr has 3.61% that is the percentage of all his plays that are either turnovers like INTs and fumbles or potential turnovers like dropped INTs or calls reversed etc.

    Derek Carr this season has been under pressure on 19 drop backs, hes 9 for 17 with 108 yards, two INTs and two sacks

    Ryan Tannehill this season has been under pressure on 13 drop backs, hes 5 for 8 with 58 yards, one TD and 5 sacks

    I know its really earlier but these numbers tell me that when Carr is under pressure hes either trying to make plays, or throwing the ball away.... where Tannehill is taking sacks. Tannehill is at the helm of a very conservative and slow-paced offense and has thrown his two INT's under no pressure.
    Nice statistic numbers - I see raiders game locally all the time - Carr is a different QB after that injury few years ago - Donald roll into his knees on Monday night football and he play scare the whole 2nd half- like I said this game is a coin flip ? Who’s the better QB? Of course I think Carr is? But like I was saying? Raiders got a good O-line- even the rams defense didn’t really pressure him! Also held down a good Denver d-line with von Miller -

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Nice statistic numbers - I see raiders game locally all the time - Carr is a different QB after that injury few years ago - Donald roll into his knees on Monday night football and he play scare the whole 2nd half- like I said this game is a coin flip ? Who’s the better QB? Of course I think Carr is? But like I was saying? Raiders got a good O-line- even the rams defense didn’t really pressure him! Also held down a good Denver d-line with von Miller -
    Rams got one sack and Denver got one sack. Rams are the best defense in the nfl and broncos are a top 10 defense with arguably with a top 3 pass rush

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    Tough spot for the Raiders with back to back road games and this one being a Cross Country trip to Miami at 1pm Eastern Time... It's early in the season but the Dolphins Defense has played very well so far. ..GL

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    Tony Romo said it best: “on any given Sunday the best team isn’t as good as you think and the worse team isn’t as bad as you think”

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    I agree. But I still wouldnt touch it. Parlay the Seahawks, for all you got. And if the raiders win, you easily have a winning, 2 team parlay, instead of a straight bet.. 🤑
    Or better yet. Lets just bet each other.
    I got Seahawks, you got De Raiders. 200 grand big enough for you?

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    Raiders have talent, but always lack discipline. Gruden dumped Crabtree, Mack, and King too...
    This is a big game and season for Carr.

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    I need to see this all in bet ticket

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    Wouldn’t touch this game for anything big

    Raiders slightly better team but certain factors against them (Heat and Early game for west coast team)

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    31-10 Raiders!

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    I took raiders on moneyline for 3k. I agree both teams are definitely average. Nothing special to be excited about on either side. But I do see the raiders winning a close one by a field goal.

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    like the spot, MIami IMO is over playing themselves and Oakland is due... I wouldn't be going crazy betting in this game, but do like the Raiders

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    pretty sure its gonna be near 90 in miami and hotter on the field. one of hotter florida septembers this year. mia is a good home september team in close games if my memory is correct. not to mention oak giving up about a buck fifty on the ground.

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    Game over

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    rip

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    Had Miami -3 on BTP contest. Any know how P...ck is doing today?

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    Will Gruden be in the MNF booth tomorrow
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    Gruden might go 2-14

    What a loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by recon1 View Post
    Tony Romo said it best: “on any given Sunday the best team isn’t as good as you think and the worse team isn’t as bad as you think”

    nostradamus. odd the 1 cbs broadcast team had vikings game

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    another classic SBR all in burial...

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    All In the hardest bets to win

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Gruden might go 2-14

    What a loser
    most overrated contract/coach signing so far this decade...he won't make it 3 seasons, guy is a loser

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    Raiders blow yet another game. Gruden is just a awful coach

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    Quote Originally Posted by timdog12 View Post
    Raiders blow yet another game. Gruden is just a awful coach
    only his 3rd week. sheesh. forced to get rid of mack. team can't stop the run. not the easiest schedule either. a lot of pressure but there are pieces he can use over the years and he has time and draft picks. they will be competitive. gonna need defense to beat chiefs chargers and broncos in that division.

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    Raiders blown leads in every game so far, cant finish, lack mental toughness, typical RRRRRRaiders choke job

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngambler View Post
    another classic SBR all in burial...
    Its Sad that the Kids had faith in the Raiders on the Road.. It Happens I guess

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    Carr soft just like his jagoff brother, terrible red zone INTs in every game so far, too many sacks, no clutch factor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Who the fukk besides my wife(huge Raiders fan) would go all in on the Raiders in this game?
    When Carr threw that last interception, I heard the remote getting smacked off of the coffee table in the living room.

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    tough game, raiders defense just not that good and the offense is yet to click they should be avg 27+ easy

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    never go all in

    every game has the same chance of winning

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