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    Need help good people here

    So I have a local, Baker Mayfield odds were at +1200 at 8am...so bet it.

    Now he's saying it was mislisted and should hAve been -350....
    Anyone have a resource to confirm the odds at this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    So I have a local, Baker Mayfield odds were at +1200 at 8am...so bet it.

    Now he's saying it was mislisted and should hAve been -350....
    Anyone have a resource to confirm the odds at this time?
    i posted odds in one of the threads cuz i was following mayfields odds fall fast

    i posted this at 6:12 am and the odds on mayfield had dropped from +500 a few mins before


    swear i was looking at this line 5 minutes ago and it was +500

    i got this feeling the browns are taking mayfield


    Thu 4/26 9 Baker Mayfield drafted #1 overall +420
    8:00PM 10 Baker Mayfield not drafted #1 overall -650

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    7:17 am

    hour ago baker was +420 to be drafted 1st overall look at the odds now hmm

    Thu 4/26 9 Baker Mayfield drafted #1 overall +320
    8:00PM 10 Baker Mayfield not drafted #1 overall -460

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    915 am


    from +500 to +230 hmm


    Thu 4/26 5 Baker Mayfield drafted #1 overall +230
    8:00PM 6 Baker Mayfield not drafted #1 overall -310

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    not too long after that odds went off the board and betonline i got this at 10:22 am baker was -200 fav



    Wow look at this betonline odds i can't believe this baker mayfield was +500 to go number 1 a few hours ago is now the -200 fav



    75051 Josh Allen +650
    75052 Sam Darnold +100
    75053 Josh Rosen +3300
    75054 Baker Mayfield -200
    75055 Saquon Barkley +1600
    75056 Bradley Chubb +10000

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    Any way to prove it? I'd love to be able to have a resource to send the guy and show that at the bet ticket time it was BLANK.


    Also.... How can he say it was mislisted..seems to me he was just too slow to update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Any way to prove it? I'd love to be able to have a resource to send the guy and show that at the bet ticket time it was BLANK.


    Also.... How can he say it was mislisted..seems to me he was just too slow to update?
    i'm not sure how you can prove it unless there is some place that keeps track of line movements for props i copied the lines directly from 5dimes website and posted it here but if you were talking about 8 am eastern time he def wasn't -300 then but alot less than +1200

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    Playing with fire. Did you bet it because you heard or read news about Mayfield going #1? If so then I think you have your answer regarding a bad line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Playing with fire. Did you bet it because you heard or read news about Mayfield going #1? If so then I think you have your answer regarding a bad line.
    I mean yeah it was getting hot for him to go but.... I don't get how if matters really.

    Wiz do you know of a site that tracks movements like that?

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    if you had bet it last night you would have no issue at that +1200 number maybe u can settle on like +200 or +300

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    I mean yeah it was getting hot for him to go but.... I don't get how if matters really.

    Wiz do you know of a site that tracks movements like that?
    If the rumblings were out then the line was stale. Tough for books to keep up with that on those kinds of specials.

    I donít know of a site that tracks. But youíre not gonna win this battle with your guy. I know that much.

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    thing that sucks is if baker didn't go number 1 they would keep your money but since he did they refund

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    Thammer rising

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    thing that sucks is if baker didn't go number 1 they would keep your money but since he did they refund
    He's just gonna pay out at -350... Which is horse shit. Should be at least +300

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    He's just gonna pay out at -350... Which is horse shit. Should be at least +300
    house always wins

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    Props always get bet down when there is an angle.. I've seen that happen in MMA so many times over the years...

    That's why you gotta stay on props and pay attention when they first come out.. You fall asleep you lose value.. Just that simple...

    It's not easy or fun to browse thru 100's of props in all sports every morning trust me.. Political props too.. I don't stay on it like I should.. That could be the difference between making bank and little bank though

    I'd kill for a new prop value alert thread in all sports that was NOT open to the public.. Pro gamblers staying on it only.. So many team and player props in all the major sports that are missed daily for value....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Props always get bet down when there is an angle.. I've seen that happen in MMA so many times over the years...

    That's why you gotta stay on props and pay attention when they first come out.. You fall asleep you lose value.. Just that simple...

    It's not easy or fun to browse thru 100's of props in all sports every morning trust me.. Political props too.. I don't stay on it like I should.. That could be the difference between making bank and little bank though

    I'd kill for a new prop value alert thread in all sports that was NOT open to the public.. Pro gamblers staying on it only.. So many team and player props in all the major sports that are missed daily for value....
    I don't think you understand the post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    I don't think you understand the post?
    I understood the post I just was posting in general and outside the box and thinking of prop value decreasing immediately when the line value is obviously off when it first comes out...

    I know you got screwed out of your original placing betting odds. I've been bumped off bets before just like you did.. It happens with books. I usually just got refunded though and the bet was cancelled out.

    I was just posting in regards to prop betting in general with decreasing odds..

    Sorry hope that clears things up..

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    Bets like this pretty much a waste of time, at least online. With a local lol.

    Old days u could hit them when shit like today happened but then they tightened up to point the rules will state "if bet made after public knowledge it is void".

    That's when I stopped looking at them

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    He should pay you at the correct odds for the time, at least.

    But if he thinks you intentionally took a shot at him he's probably going to be a hard ass about it. Probably why he quoted you the horrible -350 in the first place.

    As twizzle said, pick your battles. Doesn't sound like he's going to let you win this one.

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    No local bookie is going to honor that. Good luck.

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    Thanks all.
    Good insight! I'm not too worried about it but thought I'd try and see what options there were. Me and a few buddies all use this guy and only have been for a month so wanted to see if he was pulling BS on us

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    Same exact thing happened to me yesterday

    As the rumor mill was swirling mayfield was still listed in the +450 range so I bet it only to have a message saying the bet was cancelled bc correct odds were -200

    One of the cons of playing with locals as they've cancelled bets like that with me before

    The worst feeling is when they actually hit like last night

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    Terrible break

    I wonder why they do not honor bets?

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    Some examples I can recall right away was an nba playoff series last yr that had Memphis grizzlies as a +50000 underdog against San Antonio instead of +5000. I grabbed Memphis with intentions of hedging for a 20k profit before it was cancelled

    Another one was a small superbowl halftime show prop bet where lady Gaga sang 2 verses of the national anthem before going into pokerface. The bet was pokerface as the first song and it was initially graded as a +400 win before being changed to a loss

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    Doesn't matter what changed.

    You bet the odds that were offered to you.

    He should pay end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Doesn't matter what changed.

    You bet the odds that were offered to you.

    He should pay end of story.
    My thoughts exactly... IF it was some crazy like error in the line like he was listed at +10000 or some shit I could get it. But dude... You just were way too slow to update lines so you lose? Pay up.

    At this point in time the wager is graded at a win at the +1200... Let's hope he keeps that honored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I'd kill for a new prop value alert thread in all sports that was NOT open to the public.. Pro gamblers staying on it only.. So many team and player props in all the major sports that are missed daily for value....
    This wouldn't be hard to build as a service, the problem is getting accurate and timely data from the books without paying an arm and a leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    My thoughts exactly... IF it was some crazy like error in the line like he was listed at +10000 or some shit I could get it. But dude... You just were way too slow to update lines so you lose? Pay up.

    At this point in time the wager is graded at a win at the +1200... Let's hope he keeps that honored.
    If the guy pays you at -350 , and he probably will, be mad, but work to beat him in the future by having a 2nd and if possible a 3rd local. Sharpen your odds and improve your playing %. Don't leave him, beat him. Once you do, that shortstop will cut you off. And even if he does pay you, still get a 2nd bookie. Just the fact that he mentioned it tells you all you need to know about the guy.
    There are few better feelings when using a bookie than to get cut off. It feels great !

    Good luck.

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    Damn tough break

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    If the wager is graded as a win at those odds then the bookie is on the hook for that amount

    My locals subscribe to a website that is a separate entity as I'm sure yours does as well. I'm pretty sure they cancelled all the bets from the root server in my case which means the website your bookie uses either forgot or didn't care to

    Either way if it's there and unchanged on the graded wagers he should absolutely be liable

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    Best option:
    Stop being a broke dik taking shots at locals and post up some cash on a respectable off-shore site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyBigNuts View Post
    Best option:
    Stop being a broke dik taking shots at locals and post up some cash on a respectable off-shore site.
    I do both, they each have their pros and cons. I personally prefer the locals

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