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    Department of Homeland Security vows to enforce Donald Trump's travel bans



    Donald Trump’s travel bans will continue to be enforced by the The Department of Homeland Security (DHS), despite a New York judge placing a temporary stay on it being executed.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-travel-bans-department-of-homeland-security-vows-enforce-court-order-a7551601.html

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    typical ex branch of our govt

    continue policy until final judgement by court sys

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    Will they continue the extrajudicial executions though?

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    put them all on a fukkin boat and get them the fuk out of the usa

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    why does a new york judge have the power to stop it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    why does a new york judge have the power to stop it?
    They don't. Homeland security and border control officers are following Trumps orders. Basically telling judges to go f themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    why does a new york judge have the power to stop it?
    Everyone appointed by obama thinks they are above the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    why does a new york judge have the power to stop it?
    Hmm, idk, maybe because it's illegal and against what the constitution states this country was founded on? Checks and balances working just as the founding fathers intended. And before anyone starts the typical lib comebacks this is not about politics it's about the constitution of the United States!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpAngles View Post
    Hmm, idk, maybe because it's illegal and against what the constitution states this country was founded on? Checks and balances working just as the founding fathers intended. And before anyone starts the typical lib comebacks this is not about politics it's about the constitution of the United States!
    Oh are you a legal scholar? Please tell me the part of constitution that forbids the President of the USA to impose reasonable screening restrictions on non-citizens! The constitution give ZERO protections to Non-usa citizens u penetrating moron. Read it some time

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpAngles View Post
    Hmm, idk, maybe because it's illegal and against what the constitution states this country was founded on? Checks and balances working just as the founding fathers intended. And before anyone starts the typical lib comebacks this is not about politics it's about the constitution of the United States!
    it just keeps getting better and better

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    Trump is the greatest thing ever to happen to the liberal movement

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpAngles View Post
    against what the constitution states
    Non-citizens are not protected under the constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Trump is the greatest thing ever to happen to the liberal movement
    I know, the guy should get a medal. He was able to bring out every lib nut job out into the open in a matter of a week. With all the stupidity from day to day on the lib side it is waking everyone one up to the fact of how PC and moronic Obama days were. Libs doing business as usual only there is no Obama to praise the stupidity and now everyone else is just laughing. The whole, "I am going to tell mommy", approach is great. These people overacting to everything is priceless, like they are going to stop anything. Another few months of this and the democrats are going to bury themselves completely with all this delusional shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    why does a new york judge have the power to stop it?
    The judge is a federal judge, and yes a federal judge has the power to issue the order and no-compliance is can lead to contempt charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelRain View Post
    Non-citizens are not protected under the constitution
    You might want to read the Constitution. Concentrate on the number 14.

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    Amidst a constitutional crisis, Trump is watching Finding Dory. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...mmigration-ban

    Come to think of it, maybe hell learn something. Dory is basically a Dreamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuesser View Post
    You might want to read the Constitution. Concentrate on the number 14.
    What does granting citizenship to freed slaves have to do with refugees from 3rd world countries in 2017?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Amidst a constitutional crisis, Trump is watching Finding Dory. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...mmigration-ban

    Come to think of it, maybe hell learn something. Dory is basically a Dreamer.
    well just on the basis of this post we can be sure of one thing. Circus business will be okay across the nation because there is no longer any shortage of clowns.

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    No wonder the guy was elected, his loudest followers don't understand basic principles of this country! This was settled by the Supreme Court in the 1880s when they ruled the Chinese exclusion act was unconstitutional.

    When Dick fkn Cheney comes out against this action you know damn well it's a blunder.

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    why didn't he ban people from countries that have actually committed terrorism in the United States?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublej95 View Post
    why didn't he ban people from countries that have actually committed terrorism in the United States?
    Because that makes it hard on the foreign nationals working with him in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Turkey. The list goes on but those are the 3 countries that have had their nationals actually attack us and continue to support isis so most egregious. Money first, America second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelRain View Post
    What does granting citizenship to freed slaves have to do with refugees from 3rd world countries in 2017?
    It is not the refugees. It is the green card holders. They are vetted already. Also once you get your green card then you are given the same rights as same one born here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetweenHerCheeks View Post
    Oh are you a legal scholar? Please tell me the part of constitution that forbids the President of the USA to impose reasonable screening restrictions on non-citizens! The constitution give ZERO protections to Non-usa citizens u penetrating moron. Read it some time
    Go finish high school and MAYBE you'll see who the fkn moron is. Zero protections to non citizens? You're obviously not a legal scholar either pal

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    Obama won on wanting "change" from the same old shit that was going on and everyone cheered...well the clown dikk sheep did....Trump is doing things differently and "changing" the culture of how things are done...

    and now the dipshit libs are complaining....fukk they are idiots

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    Backtracking on green card holders: http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...n-the-national

    This order wasn't vetted at all, let alone extremely. The irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Backtracking on green card holders: http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...n-the-national

    This order was not properly vetted. The irony.
    we dont have the same ideology d2 but at least you have a clue about your stand...I will give you that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    we dont have the same ideology d2 but at least you have a clue about your stand...I will give you that
    Count your blessings Obama didn't ban or restrict dumb fukks living here, or you'd be on the outside looking in

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    Drop the Hammer Trump.. Don't listen to these libs.. They know nothing..

    These people aren't Americans send them back home until radical Islam is under wraps!!

    Families crying because they are held up for a few hours at the airport.. Cry me a river... It's not like they are jailed for weeks at the airports..

    MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN!!!

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    I was surprised Libya and Sudan were added to the list; the other 4 I'm not surprised.

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    This will get interesting

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    does every opposing view on this forum get labeled liberal or conservative? If so whats the point of any of these threads if no real discussion can take place? Can we just move these to the correct forum because its been a couple months now and I dont think i've seen one example of a thread with a real political discussion without just blasting the left or the right. Nothing will probably get done though just Sam posting every single day his multiple threads with his one view on everything which accomplishes nothing

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    You guys thinking a judge will overrule Trump?


    What are some of you guys on? Trump gives the orders. You obey. Or get the fuk out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    You guys thinking a judge will overrule Trump?


    What are some of you guys on? Trump gives the orders. You obey. Or get the fuk out.
    Judges struck down Obama orders and laws at times. Trump became king and is not subject to the same legal scrutiny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Judges struck down Obama orders and laws at times. Trump became king and is not subject to the same legal scrutiny?
    Please. Not even the same equation. I wish there was a website that officially showed all the Executive Orders that Obama issued. 80% of his orders were "out of line."

    Trump just correcting his errors at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Please. Not even the same equation. I wish there was a website that officially showed all the Executive Orders that Obama issued. 80% of his orders were "out of line."

    Trump just correcting his errors at the moment.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...%E2%80%9313764

    Your wish is granted. You're welcome.

    And how is it not the same equation? Executive orders cannot violate the Constitution and the federal courts are the arbiter. Yes, judges can overrule. Exactly the same equation.

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