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    Quote Originally Posted by calvin34242 View Post
    i think the club will have to disband they lost the whole team in the top divison of the league no way they can continue next season so tragic i wonder the plane's safety record
    Brazilian Football already making changes so they can't be relegated for 3 years and all teams will loan players with no fee charged to them so they can regroup

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer14 View Post
    If Nacional gave the trophy to Chapecoense that would be a heart warming story in this tragedy
    They did request this. Sounds like he accident may have been from running out of fuel. Man, how can that happen?

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    I didn't read through all of the comments, but saw that the goalkeeper Danilo survived. He survived the crash and called his wife at the hospital, bud sadly, passed away. There's a selfie of him and his teammate that survived before takeoff. You just never know when your time is and it's scary.

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    Did any players live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calvin34242 View Post
    i think the club will have to disband they lost the whole team in the top divison of the league no way they can continue next season so tragic i wonder the plane's safety record
    They put this team together just two years ago and they were already at this point. They won't have any problems finding free agents and other players. Lokomotiv in Russia moved on the following year and have a complete team, with some ex-NHL players on it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Did any players live?
    5 or 6 people lived. The backup goalie had to have his leg amputated.

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    It's crazy how things happen in this world....team does next to nothing in their whole existence then crashes on the way to the finals of their first major tournament

    Just terrible....RIP to everyone

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    http://people.com/human-interest/soc...rash-kills-75/

    Alan Ruschel on the right and poor Danilo on the left. Danilo--RIP

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    Fuk... so sad.

    Rest easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Sanchez View Post
    Brazilian Football already making changes so they can't be relegated for 3 years and all teams will loan players with no fee charged to them so they can regroup
    Don't know how many players would want to go there. It would be depressing and they won't be dominating much. It would be better if they folded at their height which is now.

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    RIP.

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    Teams should separate their team into two groups on to two different planes. In case something like this happens.
    Think of all the flights for all the teams, especially MLB... for all these years. Actually, think of all the flights every day, it's just not something you worry about let alone plan on happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xKMACKx View Post
    5 or 6 people lived. The backup goalie had to have his leg amputated.
    He's about to play his 300th game in front of home fans. This makes it hard for him. Not a way to end a career. So sad.

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    "I spoke with president Marco Polo del Nero and he told me the game against Atletico Mineiro, which is our next game, we're going to have a big event in Chapeco, which is going to be scheduled," Tozzo said.

    "I replied to him: 'But we don't have 11 players to put on the field!'

    "He said to me: 'You guys have it. You have a base team [Under-20s). Put on the players that are recovering from injury, which is five or six players, and another who is ready to play, and then complete the team with juniors.

    "It doesn't matter what the final score is. We have to have a big party that you deserve, that Chapeco deserves, that the region deserves, that Santa Catarina deserves, and that Brazil deserves.'"

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    Tragic, tragic news. I bet a lot of Brazilian Serie A and had watched a handful of Chapo games this year. They had great home support and a lot of good players that always made their home games fun to watch. I caught the last 15 minutes of the second leg of the Copa Sudamericana semi-final vs. San Lorenzo which they played in front of a full house at their stadium. In an odd twist, in the last minute of extra time with the teams tied on aggregate (and Chapo ready to advance on away goals) a San Lorenzo player got the ball at point blank range in front of the Chapo goal, and the goalkeeper Danilo made an amazing save with his leg that saw them through to the final, and the crowd cheered loudly. In a morbid reflection, if that shot had gone into the goal like it most assuredly looked like it would, Chapo would have never been on that plane to Colombia. Life is truly a strange journey, where sometimes inches determine life and death, and how sometimes things we celebrate at the time they happen actually end up being a curse, and some things we lament and/or regret at the time end up being a blessing.

    With the exception of vacations, I can safely say that I have at least skimmed over soccer lines from leagues all over the world every day for the last 10 years. After I heard about this terrible accident, I just didn't feel like it at all. I don't know, it seems almost disrespectful to even care about what the lines are for at least a few days, if not more. My heart feels sad, because I know how enthusiastic and joyful this team was (having watched them numerous times), and I feel bad for all their faithful fans in the small town of Chapeco, who love this club.

    God bless all the passengers who left us on that flight, and may all their families find some healing to deal with their immense loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsbook_12 View Post
    Atletico Nacional already called on to give the trophy to Chapecoense. That's big considering that team hasn't won the competition in their entire history.
    Atletico Nacional won the top prize of South America, the Copa Libertadores, earlier this year in July. I didn't look it up, but I'm pretty sure no team has ever won both the Libertadores and the Sudamerica in the same year. Of course, the Libertadores champ doesn't always play in the Sudamericana. The Sudamericana is considered a less important trophy than the Libertadores, and they change the format every year, but it's still a nice international trophy with some esteem, and it's a nice gesture for Nacional to offer it to the fallen warriors from Brazil.

    Atletico Nacional will be in the Club World Cub taking place in Japan in a few weeks, and more than likely (if they both get by their first round matches) will be playing Real Madrid in the final for the World Championship. I'm quite sure there will be some sort of tribute to the victims and Chapocoense in that tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    Teams should separate their team into two groups on to two different planes. In case something like this happens.
    My grandparents rarely flew when they were young(after about 30 they never flew at all) but before that they would always take separate flights, odds are both wouldn't crash and the fam would survive...my parents did the same thing and I will probably never fly again...only way I'm flying is on a small private plane with a parachute...I can only imagine the horror of going down in a commercial jet. Can't go out like that.

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    Ran out of fuel????? Was John Denver the pilot? It sucks to run out of gas in your car.

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    Are you fking serious? Field reserves for next scheduled game? No respect for the dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgejob View Post
    Are you fking serious? Field reserves for next scheduled game? No respect for the dead.
    What can they do man they are mourning

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgejob View Post
    Are you fking serious? Field reserves for next scheduled game? No respect for the dead.
    Huh?

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    If IM flying a plane thats low on fuel and air traffic control tells me to hold tight, Im gonna crash into their tower and we can all die together

    fukk air traffic controllers and their lard asses

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    All aircraft (at least US and military) carry a "bingo" fuel to their divert airfield if the primary is unavailable. Soon as they hit bingo they're heading to the next airfield...not sure what the pilot was doing. Also, weather, headwinds, weight of the aircraft, etc all play a factor in how much fuel is burned. The story read that the distance from Bolivia to Medellin is right on the
    edge for this planes max distance before needing fuel.

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    Not exactly clear what the pilot was doing...I don't understand why they didn't land much sooner anywhere to refuel when it was clear that they were cutting it close either way

    I have this problem where tragedies like this stick with me for a while and I read up on the back stories. Been reading about it and have seen all of the players and the team's last videos etc and I've just been in a little funk this whole week

    Now today Joe McKnight was murdered and I liked the guy as a Jet fan..fukk man

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    Quote Originally Posted by NrmlCurvSurfr View Post
    My grandparents rarely flew when they were young(after about 30 they never flew at all) but before that they would always take separate flights, odds are both wouldn't crash and the fam would survive...my parents did the same thing and I will probably never fly again...only way I'm flying is on a small private plane with a parachute...I can only imagine the horror of going down in a commercial jet. Can't go out like that.


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    Zé Roberto (one of my favorite players ever), already announced that he would be willing to play for their team next season. Without getting any salary at all btw.

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    So damn sad man wow RIp

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    They ran out of gas what a sad thing all those people had to die due to a logistical error prayers Bd thought to all the families 🙏🏻

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    Crazy vid of one the surviving players in the state of shock calling by name his already dead teammates...


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    Quote Originally Posted by zizoudane10 View Post
    Zé Roberto (one of my favorite players ever), already announced that he would be willing to play for their team next season. Without getting any salary at all btw.
    Classy move from him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    Crazy vid of one the surviving players in the state of shock calling by name his already dead teammates...


    WTF where they doing filming him he was in a shock state ffs

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    this whole thing is such a sad mess, there are so many issues where to start, 1 the club was saving money using a cheaper airlines than a bigger more well known airline, the airline company only had 1 plane working the other 2 were out of matience, the plane was better served for short flights this was almost to the range it was supposed to go, they needed to refuel but since they left so late the place they needed to stop and refuel was closed, the air traffic control of colombia made them wait because another plane had a problem needed to land, the waiting caused them to run out of fuel, they weren't allowed to fly straight from brazil to colombia because the brazil airline authority does not allow a plane certified in another country to fly directly to destination, if they used a plane based out of brazil or colombia they could of had direct flight, they had to change planes in bolivia to this doomed plane, it's so sad that the soccer club decided to save some money and used this company with only 1 plane, also more people prob would of been saved but one of the survivors said alot of the players were standing up and yelling, the survivor was in a crash position, and lastly the people that survived were at the back of the plane it's def better to be at the back of the plane than the front or middle

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