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    I see your point - the spin doctors probably had time to correct him. It will be extremely important that his advisors are with him constantly - media day at the White House might be a nightmare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Libertarian who's upset corporate tax rates need to be cut to remain competitive with the rest of the world and stop companies moving to dodge taxes.


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    Soon he'll be negotiating a truce between the UK and the EU

    Hell, no wall, no muslim ban, tax cuts, I might actually vote for the guy now

    He's turning out to be Hilary Lite

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Soon he'll be negotiating a truce between the UK and the EU

    Hell, no wall, no muslim ban, tax cuts, I might actually vote for the guy now

    He's turning out to be Hilary Lite
    Well, I guess you'll be voting for him then or this post is full of shit.

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    Lets give it time Gonz, who knows what his final positions are going to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I have zero interest in backing Clinton, and even less in voting for Trump.

    I'd feel terrible walking out of the booth having cast a vote for either.

    I'll either write someone in or stay home (which I've never done in the nearly 25 years I've been eligible).
    The two-party system is so corrupt and broken at this point (the Republican party doesn't even support their own nominee) that maybe finally a % of the ppl will wakeup and vote for someone else other than these 10% approved crooks....btw who is this 10% that trusts our current politicians...are they polling lobbyists and donors?

    It's indicative of just how ****** the Dem party is that Hillary is the best choice they could find
    It's indicative of just how ****** the Rep party is that Trump is the best choice they could find

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico2663 View Post
    Paul Ryan paid for his college off social security disability insurance but wants to do away with everyone elses. Can i PLEASE have all the money I paid back into this PONZI scheme. Now I was self employed most those years which means I paid mine and the companies part. Most years I maxed it out so Please give it back. My sister in law died at age 45 and was in management most of her life. Where did hers go. Just lost a friend that was in charge of human resources for last 20 years but she was only 55. Where did that go? I know to fund these wars that we never asked the public to pay for. When general dynamics can get paid 25 dollars for a bolt that cost 1.00 to make. My father worked at aeronica aeronautical in middletown ohio(chris carter and butch carters aunt and cousin worked for him) . He built the heat shield for the appolos space. yes they sub-contracted but he only made 55,000 dollars for that but somehow the cost to the tax payers was over 300 million. He built the first back blast plate for the 747 and at time would of cost 10 million if he screwed up but I guess you get my jest why the military cost so much.
    No offense chico but in hearing what you did for a living if you're not serving time you should be grateful.

    Life expectancy was a huge factor (the fact that some would never collect a dime) when SS was created in the 30s...ppl were expected to live to be 68 so they set the age of SS at 65...meaning your expected SS payout term was going to be very limited...problem is almost all ppl live to their 80s now (unless you smoke) and the middle class has been decimated by offshoring of manufacturing so the pyramid original design of the program is hopeless and since the early 1980s it has become a full on ponzi scheme.

    Don't worry though old timer bc for the time being our govt will continue to cut taxes and borrow money to keep the SS ponzi scheme going as well as every other unfunded scheme they've dreamt up....Madoff and Enron kept their schemes going for as long as they could too and they had huge accounting firms auditing them every year to make sure they were on the up and up....the federal government MAKES THE RULES so how can they be caught violating them? It's only in the end that ppl see these "trusted" penetrating crooked politicians HAD NO PLAN....their plan is to make a lot of money just like Bill/Hill and to get votes and that's it...that's the extent of their plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    But, the foreign effective tax rate is not much lower than the U.S. domestic tax rate. I agree we need to cut and especially simplify our tax code but companies have been offshoring a bunch of jobs because labor is so damn cheap in these 3rd world places. You can hire 10 foreign workers for the same cost of one American. That's crazy.
    The foreign effective tax rate is much lower depending on how much we cut our corporate tax rate. I agree about the cost of foreign workers. There isn't much you can do about that except set up some trade barriers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He is not winning so no worries
    You Flip Flop more than Drumpf. Unless 1st shift JJ thinks Drumfs gonna win, 2nd shift JJ thinks Hillary's gonna win, and 3rd shift JJ is undecided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Soon he'll be negotiating a truce between the UK and the EU

    Hell, no wall, no muslim ban, tax cuts, I might actually vote for the guy now

    He's turning out to be Hilary Lite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo View Post
    Libertarian who's upset corporate tax rates need to be cut to remain competitive with the rest of the world and stop companies moving to dodge taxes.
    You havent been briefed to have a formal opinion about me. No matter how long youve been here youll always be stuck in GMT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I have zero interest in backing Clinton, and even less in voting for Trump.

    I'd feel terrible walking out of the booth having cast a vote for either.

    I'll either write someone in or stay home (which I've never done in the nearly 25 years I've been eligible).
    Staying home is a vote for the Butcher of Benghazi!

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    I posted about this months ago so should be no surprise to anyone who read it.


    The only chance for the country is to cut the budget but you can't win an election by telling people they are not going to have a "job" once you're in office lol

    Also, hillary clinton is in the pocket of the elites/corporations so they are comfortable with her. Trump has to make his campaign more appealing to them.

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    Elizabeth Warren for VP...

    1st ever all female ticket thanks to Trump

    Trumptards must be mortified

    Just think of it as karma for the ignorance and racist bigotry coming back to bite you on ya arses
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyOne View Post
    I see your point - the spin doctors probably had time to correct him. It will be extremely important that his advisors are with him constantly - media day at the White House might be a nightmare?
    Does Hilliary Clinton have advisors with her constantly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyOne View Post
    I see your point - the spin doctors probably had time to correct him. It will be extremely important that his advisors are with him constantly - media day at the White House might be a nightmare?

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    Trump is like the plague at present

    The schmuck is worth "Billions" yet unable to buy a friend of any real influence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    But, the foreign effective tax rate is not much lower than the U.S. domestic tax rate. I agree we need to cut and especially simplify our tax code but companies have been offshoring a bunch of jobs because labor is so damn cheap in these 3rd world places. You can hire 10 foreign workers for the same cost of one American. That's crazy.
    Just ask John Kerry how many foreign workers you can get for the cost of one American. Him and his sweetheart are experts at that. KERRY'S 'KETCHUP'

    Submitted by ETCC on 06/28/2004 at 03:49. ( getrichkwik@webtv.net ) 209.240.205.68Look at the label of a jar of Heinz sandwich slice pickles. Yep...."Made in Mexico" Check out some of your Heinz products.
    "Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S.corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign
    countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W. Bush.

    As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory.
    That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry.
    According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerrys own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific. In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases four factories in Europe and four in Asia.
    Also,they own 27 factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean
    I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated to foreign countries.
    I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States.
    Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner?
    If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they
    won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor.

    If you can read this, thank a teacher.
    If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.

    And if we help get Kerry defeated in the election in November by spreading the word of FACTS to everyone we know...Thank God.
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    Kerry screwed workers

    This response submitted by Charles Gossett on 06/28/2004 at 04:08. ( ) cache-dtc-ac12.proxy.aol.comJohn Kerry who all of a sudden is for the worker voted for the North American Free Trade Act which Clinton signed, Vote For Free Trade Relations with China after the AFL-CIO said that the bill would cost Millions of jobs, he voted against drilling in Alaska even though all the top Unions were for it telling Kerry that drilling would create a minimum of 150,000 Union jobs.
    Kerry is a hypocrite as he voted for everything, and Democrats backed everything thats costing us jobs today.
    The amazing part about people who vote these idiots in is they don't see the big picture. Kerry and Kennedy pushed the bill that gives Immigrants who are with in 5yrs of retirement but have not worked full Social Security bennifites then they bitch we are running out of money. Now Kerry has sponsored a bill by Kennedy that will give illegal woman full pre-natal care, pay for all doctor visites and pay for the delivery of the baby. This will be taken out of Medi-Care yet is something that is not afforded to the Americans who are actually working.
    Total Hypocrites, they creat the problems then bitch about them
    Charles

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettilimbroke999 View Post
    No offense chico but in hearing what you did for a living if you're not serving time you should be grateful.

    Life expectancy was a huge factor (the fact that some would never collect a dime) when SS was created in the 30s...ppl were expected to live to be 68 so they set the age of SS at 65...meaning your expected SS payout term was going to be very limited...problem is almost all ppl live to their 80s now (unless you smoke) and the middle class has been decimated by offshoring of manufacturing so the pyramid original design of the program is hopeless and since the early 1980s it has become a full on ponzi scheme.

    Don't worry though old timer bc for the time being our govt will continue to cut taxes and borrow money to keep the SS ponzi scheme going as well as every other unfunded scheme they've dreamt up....Madoff and Enron kept their schemes going for as long as they could too and they had huge accounting firms auditing them every year to make sure they were on the up and up....the federal government MAKES THE RULES so how can they be caught violating them? It's only in the end that ppl see these "trusted" penetrating crooked politicians HAD NO PLAN....their plan is to make a lot of money just like Bill/Hill and to get votes and that's it...that's the extent of their plan.
    wtf. dude I saved families. When a guy died on a motorcycle and I gave his wife 250,000 dollar check that she didn't know he had. Which meant she didn't have to move out of their house. I am sorry that your life revolves around pushing a broom and taking shit from your boss. When a family lost their house in a fire and I wrote them a check to cover everything. Now I'm sure that you living in your apartment probably don't even have your car insured but most people have some sort of coverage.

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    Also when a business needed coverage so they can employ dip shits like you. Or you talking about when I had the HUD contract in n.ky and s. ohio during the bush administration?

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    By the way that ponzi scheme was started by the govt. I didn't ask for them to go in my pocket. As did none other of the members of this board. I would assume they owe me about 300 thousand plus interest.

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    Best anti-Trump messenger on this site is an overweight, unemployed Aussie keyboard warrior who's never been to the United States.

    Keep busy swinging from meaningless headline to meaningless headline regarding DJT's fall, y'all just whistling past the graveyard.

    Trump landslide gonna bury you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    You havent been briefed to have a formal opinion about me. No matter how long youve been here youll always be stuck in GMT.
    You can try and backtrack now but you attacked Sanders over his socialist economic positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeShea View Post
    Best anti-Trump messenger on this site is an overweight, unemployed Aussie keyboard warrior who's never been to the United States.

    Keep busy swinging from meaningless headline to meaningless headline regarding DJT's fall, y'all just whistling past the graveyard.

    Trump landslide gonna bury you all.
    Will you show your face when the repubs take the nomination from him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    You ain't seen nothing yet from Trump. Part of me doesn't want him to be the President but part of me wants him so he can screw up the lives of those who vote for him. Nothing satisfies me more than people shooting themselves in the foot.
    Pavy what does this have to do with anything? These voters have been doing this for years and of course they still think they are right even when they pay 4 dollars for gas and see their 401k getting demolished. The dumbest of our dumb and there sure are a lot of them. Anyone who votes for the destruction of their economic interest should be taken out behind their barns and shot.

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    ive been saying hes a nut case for a long time but you guys think he is your savior. he has no clue but tells you what you want to hear and people are believing this whack job. WAKE UP

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    Chico I'm gonna punt your ass over the wall

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    Hey Chico, you keep talking about qualifications or fit to be president. We have a 20 trillion dollars deficit and you think someone qualified took us there. 20 million unemployed and you keep saying qualifications. 10 million can't feed themselves and 5 million live on the street and can't feed themselves. If the predecessors were qualified than I really want someone who is not remotely close to qualified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico2663 View Post
    By the way that ponzi scheme was started by the govt. I didn't ask for them to go in my pocket. As did none other of the members of this board. I would assume they owe me about 300 thousand plus interest.
    ???
    Last edited by maggiethebestdog; 06-28-16 at 06:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo View Post
    You can try and backtrack now but you attacked Sanders over his socialist economic positions.
    I dont recall that, but if I did its because I see the bigger picture. Socialism leads to communism and thats exactly who and what the ones behind the shadows are and want. Its the NWO's cup of tea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico2663 View Post
    wtf. dude I saved families. When a guy died on a motorcycle and I gave his wife 250,000 dollar check that she didn't know he had. Which meant she didn't have to move out of their house. I am sorry that your life revolves around pushing a broom and taking shit from your boss. When a family lost their house in a fire and I wrote them a check to cover everything. Now I'm sure that you living in your apartment probably don't even have your car insured but most people have some sort of coverage.

    Go sell some more ripoff annuities with ridiculous commissions to some senile old folks and hock some insurance....you didn't pay shit on a claim you're just an insurance agent and a swindling "financial adviser" who spent his life swindling ppl out of their money by charging ridiculous commissions...give me a fuckin break you crook.

    Most retards unburdened by shame become insurance or used car salesman and if they really have no ethics whatsoever they either become swindling financial advisers or personal injury lawyers.
    Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-28-16 at 06:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    I dont recall that, but if I did its because I see the bigger picture. Socialism leads to communism and thats exactly who and what the ones behind the shadows are and want. Its the NWO's cup of tea.
    Socialism and Communism are 2 totally different things. One does not lead to another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maggiethebestdog View Post
    Socialism and Communism are 2 totally different things. One does not lead to another.
    I should have put that in quotation, those arnt my words. Lenin said the goal of socialism is communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico2663 View Post
    Will you show your face when the repubs take the nomination from him?
    I'll show more than my face. My noodle and ding-dongs if they steal the nomination.

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